Get thee behind me EOS 5...

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I keep looking at EOS 5s on the Bay of E.

I have an EOS 3 (and a 1N) which please me immensely because I can use my "modern" EOS L lenses on them. And I know that the EOS 3 was developed from the EOS 5 so it's arguably the more refined camera of the two but still my paypal account itches every time I look at an EOS 5: what possible justification can I use to do this?
 
built in flash :)

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I'm going to be the anti-GAS one here - as you said yourself, the 3 was developed from the 5. So the people who owned the 5 were people who lusted after the 3 - so why bother spending money to get an inferior version of a camera you already own?

I get quite excited by TLRs sometimes (older Rolleiflex, Autocords etc.) then kick a bit of sense into myself and realise they just won't get used because I have something better than it in the first place!
 
tikkathreebarrel said:
You know, I don't think I have many cameras with BIF: Canon MC, Canon A35F, Canon G5 IR conv, mobile phone. Hmm, that's it!

Do you think that's a good enough reason?
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what are they now, about £50 ?

I find a BIF handy sometimes, even for fill in etc, on a sunny day, if I'm just on walk about. no need to worry about extra batteries etc :D

I missed it, when I went from the 450d to the 5DII and had to start carrying around a flash in my bag, so I was happy when I got a 5. I have a couple of 3's

TBH, if you want a 5, then this is about the only reason to get one !

Make sure the command dial is not broken though - a common fault with that model
 
Hasn't it got that "eye control" system Canon experimented with a while ago?

Must be worth haveing a machine in the collection with such new technology for the time.
 
Knikki said:
Hasn't it got that "eye control" system Canon experimented with a while ago?

Must be worth haveing a machine in the collection with such new technology for the time.
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so did the 3 :thumbs:
 
Tricky69 said:
so did the 3 :thumbs:
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And as I'm a confirmed specky four eyes and assuming that the milk bottle bottom in front of my eye would not help the system, I haven't even bothered to set up the eye-fi control on the 3.

BIF? Hmm. Bet it's as weedy as can be though and not much use in the real world....
 
Tricky69 said:
what are they now, about £50 ?

I find a BIF handy sometimes, even for fill in etc, on a sunny day, if I'm just on walk about. no need to worry about extra batteries etc :D

I missed it, when I went from the 450d to the 5DII and had to start carrying around a flash in my bag, so I was happy when I got a 5. I have a couple of 3's

TBH, if you want a 5, then this is about the only reason to get one !

Make sure the command dial is not broken though - a common fault with that model
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That's a very useful tip, thanks.
 
it's not the most power flash, no. Close up work only really . Social gatherings or fill in etc. Like I say, just one less thing you need to carry, if the occasion suits.
Just ask your self how often you use/miss a flash at the moment ?

I generally like to carry 2 compatible bodies for walk about , one with slow film, one with fast, as you never know what you might see.

The other thing about me, is I think of this as fun - these are my toys :)
And at the moment, they dont depreciate - so you can 'swap' them out for more toys later.

I agree with FC - re better/inferior camera, and not getting used - but it's not quite the same as a TLR, in that you will be using the lenses you already have. So image quality wont suffer.
 
Tricky69 said:
I agree with FC - re better/inferior camera, and not getting used - but it's not quite the same as a TLR, in that you will be using the lenses you already have. So image quality wont suffer.
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It was only my personal example regarding this sort of dilemma - applying more to GAS than any sort of comment on quality/performance. Still an unnecessary purchase from my point of view, although if you have the money burning and it is your money...!
 
I've got a EOS-3 and a EOS-5. Mainly because the EOS-5 turned into a paperweight when it got a case of the electrical never-get-overs. IMO, In every respect the EOS-3 is a much better camera - the handling of the camera itself, the feel of the camera t the hand (eos-5 has that horrible cheap shiny plastic feeling to it, wereas the EOS-3 feels pretty much the same as a modern EOS-5Dii as you know)

As said pretty much the only reason other than wanting a complete "timeline set" of bodies is that it's got a Built In Flash - but if that's the overriding factor, frankly, the EOS-30 is a much better proposition. For a start it's a 12 year newer set of electronics in there, shares much of the AF "smarts" with the EOS3, albeit with a smaller no. of focusing points, and is much smaller and lighter - it's actually awfully similar to the "three digit" canon digital bodies (like the 450D etc.)

WRT the command dial on the EOS-5, problem was you had to press a button on the top of the dial before moving the dial back/forward. Unfortunately, people forgot, and forced it, which snapped a couple of little plastic moulded "pips" that held the dial in place - it's fixable, a steady hand, a hot safety pin and a couple of jewellers screws rescued mine... unfortunately, the small unrelated electrical fire inside the body that occurred a month or two later released the "magic smoke" from a few components and melted a whole chunk of the flexible plastic "board" that connects all the sub-sections.
 
TheBigYin said:
I've got a EOS-3 and a EOS-5. Mainly because the EOS-5 turned into a paperweight when it got a case of the electrical never-get-overs. IMO, In every respect the EOS-3 is a much better camera - the handling of the camera itself, the feel of the camera t the hand (eos-5 has that horrible cheap shiny plastic feeling to it, wereas the EOS-3 feels pretty much the same as a modern EOS-5Dii as you know)

As said pretty much the only reason other than wanting a complete "timeline set" of bodies is that it's got a Built In Flash - but if that's the overriding factor, frankly, the EOS-30 is a much better proposition. For a start it's a 12 year newer set of electronics in there, shares much of the AF "smarts" with the EOS3, albeit with a smaller no. of focusing points, and is much smaller and lighter - it's actually awfully similar to the "three digit" canon digital bodies (like the 450D etc.)

WRT the command dial on the EOS-5, problem was you had to press a button on the top of the dial before moving the dial back/forward. Unfortunately, people forgot, and forced it, which snapped a couple of little plastic moulded "pips" that held the dial in place - it's fixable, a steady hand, a hot safety pin and a couple of jewellers screws rescued mine... unfortunately, the small unrelated electrical fire inside the body that occurred a month or two later released the "magic smoke" from a few components and melted a whole chunk of the flexible plastic "board" that connects all the sub-sections.
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Cheers Mark for the voice of experience.

I've kinda got over a "must have one of every" phase which has seen a number of Mamiya Medium Format items go back to Ebay, most but not yet rangefinders go the same way leaving me, in film format, with a number of pre-EOS F and A series Canon bodies, a dimishing number of Rangefinders, the EOS 1N whateveritis and 3, two Mamiya 645 bodies and most, but certainly not all Mamiya 35mm bodies SLR and Rangefinder.
I have a feeling that I've still got too much kit and am currently weighing up which to let go - the Mamiya 35mm or the pre EOS Canons. Both of which I feel some attachment towards. I'm not there yet.

The EOS 5 is an impulse which comes and goes. When I look at the EOS range it's h...uu.....ggg....eee for which reason I could limit myself to the
single digit series.

I'd better watch out for one coming up on EBay "smoke damage, spares or repairs, might work but then pigs might fly":clap:
 
I think mine will probably end up donated to someone one here, who buys one that's either cosmetically rough, or has a cracked case/similar faults... One thing I DO know - the capacitors for the flash certainly still hold a good charge - damned thing Tazered me, when I was re-assembling it after finding the problems after the "magic smoke release"
 
I am now at home with the logic "I had a 5di, I now have a 5Dii so why would I be interested in buying another 5Di 'cos I'm never going to use it." to any rapidly diminishing notion of buying an EOS 5 to support my EOS3.

Now, all I have to do is delete several examples from my watching list on EBay...:lol::lol::rules::rules::cuckoo::cuckoo:
 
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I need to take a hint somewhere along the line too.

I have maybe 30-40 film cameras folders/tlr's slr's - not counting probably the same again in p&S 110/35 and APS.

And here's me nearly going for an EOS 30 , on TBY's recommendation :lol:

only thing that stopped me, was the 450 comparison, as I have BIG hands and LOOOONG fingers, that get all jumbled up on the small bodies.

then again, that doesn't make any sense, as I'm always after the smallest SLR as a 'pocket' camerta...I have a couple of ME's and an ME super, just bought another OM10, and an AE-1 ...

I really need to sort out whch ones I will actually use, and keep them, and get rid of 'some' of the others.

I do like to at least run a film through every camera I buy though, part for fun, and part to make sure it's ok to sell again.

next on my list is to make a LF field camera 5x4 and a 10 x 8... wet plates and DIY emulsions too :thumbs:
 
Hi all, I've emerged from lurking in the shadows just to tell Mr Barrell to stay the hell away from those cheap eBay EOS 5's. JUST SAY NO MAN.

I bought a mint boxed one for 25 odd pounds a year ago, to replace an EOS 30 that had become a paperweight due to "Sudden EOS Flashing Battery Symbol Death"

Coming from the fairly solid feeling amateur 30, the "Semi-Pro" 5 just felt plain cheap and nasty. The worst part was the handgrip that would creak and move about disconcertingly whenever I had my 17-40mm attached. The control dial on mine was fine, but I was forever paranoid that just by looking at it funny it would strip itself just to spite me. The shiny and wafer thin plastic Canon used on the body would rival that of a Happy Meal toy, plus the rubber used on the handgrip would go sticky and rub off everywhere, a la Nikon F90. After running 6 films through it I got sick of it and bought an F100 and a bag 'o lenses from Mr Mifsuds that I'd always promised to myself.

To top it off the damn thing is still tormenting me from the other side of the world, as the guy who bought it off me in India via eBay has just emailed me saying it's also now succumbed to "Flashing Battery Death" :bang:

The pop-up flash that would automatically retract itself whenever you turned off the camera was pretty nifty however.. :lol:
 
Tricky69 said:
I like your cakes :thumbs:

welcome to the forum :D
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Cheers, I could do with a new Roller so please empty your local shop. Now. :D

Oh yes, I forgot to mention the EOS 50E. Possibly the best out of the three IMHO. It's sturdy and reliable, the dial based interface is simple and satisfying to use, it's exactly the right size (The 5 is a bit porky, the 30 is a bit cramped) and best of all it's common and dirt cheap to buy.

I also find the two tone paint job it sports is great at confusing the digital sheep when they see you shooting. They stare at it like it's some kind of OMG SECRET PROTOTYPE. :lol:
 
I used to have a EOS 50E, was a great piece of kit and can be had for around £30 :)
 
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