Full frame - not used one but I don't get it

You need to be careful about investing in EFS lenses if there's a likelihood you might go full frame at some stage in the future.

Havin said that unless it's the wider angle of view you're after - check out what you already have against what you covet - you might be pleasantly surprised....

http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
 
Unfortunately the 17-50 is my shortest lens, after that its all primes up to the 70-300.

I guess I could sell it and get the Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 XR Di, but when thats quite a high starting point for the 60D and I'd loose OS and a cracking lens to boot (see here and you'll see what I mean)
 
Nice! My wide lens is the 17-40L which I'm more than happy with despite the fact it's only a moderate wide angle on the 7D. I can't really justify full frame just for the occasions I want the full 9 yards from it, so on those occasions I tend to shoot 35mm.
 
JohnN said:
Well, you guys almost had me - I was looking to get a 5D, until I spotted that my beloved Sigma 17-50 was fitted with a somewhat silly EFS style fitting.... grrr!
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hehe, I get to quote myself!!

I take it back, you did get me - I've ordered a 5D thats due early next week, as I'm still keeping the crop I'll still be using the Sigma, but my shortest on crop will be the nifty fifty, which I guess comes back to a 35mm equiv?

I may keep an eye out something as good as the Sigma that will work FF, but not just yet as that totally cleared me out and I don;t want to sell any lenses until I have an idea how they are going to work with the 5D.
 
"...so I ask you good people what am I missing about the full frame that makes it worth not only loosing reach but also cost so much more?"

Just to stick my 2 pennies worth in, I've recently moved over to FF and I'm well chuffed. Here is an example from my first outing with a FF (D700), apart from a wee bit of cropping nothing has been changed, straight from the camera...



As mentioned already in this thread there are a ton of posts about FF, with some very useful info in, hence the reason I jumped over:lol: I can't really give too much tech stuff yet as I've only had it a few days and am getting to grips with it but.... well pleased:)
 
Just to throw one more question into the pot. I noticed that pictures from my 5d mkII are a lot more conrasty (nice word ;)) than from my previous camera's Canon 450d. Shadows are darker, highlights are lighter. Even though the 450d I had contrast set for +2 and the 5d mkII contrast is set to 0.

Is this down to the FF vs crop sensor? :thinking:
 
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=ReBeL= said:
Just to throw one more question into the pot. I noticed that pictures from my 5d mkII are a lot more conrasty (nice word ;)) than from my previous camera Canon 450d. Shadows are darker, highlights are lighter. Even though the 450d I had contrast set for +2 and the 5d mkII is set for contrast 0.

Is this down to the FF vs crop sensor? :thinking:
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It's no coincidence that sharpness is actually a measure of contrast...

Have a google of 'MTF Charts' or similar and have a read :)
 
It's more to do with the better dynamic range of the FF sensor.
 
Just an example. Pretty much SOOC. The shadows on the side of the church are very dark indeed

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Nawty said:
It's no coincidence that sharpness is actually a measure of contrast...

Have a google of 'MTF Charts' or similar and have a read :)
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Thanks, googling now.

odd jim said:
It's more to do with the better dynamic range of the FF sensor.
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Thanks Jim :thumbs:
 
Ah well, detail in shadows is a direct factor of having a larger sensor and therefore bigger pixels and therefore lower noise and therefore better shadow details.
 
I should probably mention, that I shoot in RAW and have calibrated IPS monitor :)
 
Nawty said:
Is it? JPG dynamic range (and that of most monitors I think?) is limited way below what most camera sensors can capture?
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I don't think that's the case.
 
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