Full frame Canon

[johnf3f]

Interesting, why do you keep the 7D2?

Good question, I am wondering myself!
Don't get me wrong it is a great camera but just not as good/useful as the 1DX.
Had it for two years and I doubt it has 3K cliks on it - says it all really. I should put it up for sale.

 

[johnf3f]

Interesting, I was under the impression from reviews that the 7dii used the same af system as the 1dx? But had improved istr capability and better lowlight focus at -3ev.

The AF on the 7D2 is very good and similar in operation to the 1DX - but it is not as good as the 1DX. The 5D4 is "said" to have the same AF as the 1DX2, maybe it has but it certainly does not AF as well as the 1DX 1 or 2 on my lenses. Very good but not quite as good IMO.

To most users this is splitting hairs as they are all excellent and will give good results in virtually all circumstances - just find the 1 DX series a little better. It matters to me but is probably irrelevant to many/most users.

 

[GTG]

The AF on the 7D2 is very good and similar in operation to the 1DX - but it is not as good as the 1DX. The 5D4 is "said" to have the same AF as the 1DX2, maybe it has but it certainly does not AF as well as the 1DX 1 or 2 on my lenses. Very good but not quite as good IMO.

To most users this is splitting hairs as they are all excellent and will give good results in virtually all circumstances - just find the 1 DX series a little better. It matters to me but is probably irrelevant to many/most users.

I found this as well, my 1D MK 3 has lightning fast AF even though it is old now. I`m sure I read somewhere that the 1D cameras processors are named the same as the cheaper cameras but in fact they are uprated versions. I assume the processors have an influence of Af but not sure exactly....

 

[johnf3f]

I found this as well, my 1D MK 3 has lightning fast AF even though it is old now. I`m sure I read somewhere that the 1D cameras processors are named the same as the cheaper cameras but in fact they are uprated versions. I assume the processors have an influence of Af but not sure exactly....

It may also be down to the higher battery voltage or (with the 1DX series) that they have 3 processors spreading the load better? For example the 1DX (1) has a Digic 4 for exposure and two Digic 5+ processors for the rest. The 1DX Mk2 has one Digic 6 and two Digic 6+ processors.

 

[Gaz J]

As well as dedicated processors the 1 series cameras drive the big tele lenses faster with the higher voltage. The 7D2 was supposed to be the first camera outside the 1 series that could do the same with LP 6 batteries. It just never seemed to be as fast to me though.

Problem is if you've got a 1DX or 1DX2 then any other model isn't quite going to cut it overall when compared against them. My 7D2 was great in good light but once the light deteriorated it was back in the bag. I honestly don't even think about reach any more, I just stick an extender on my 500.

 

[JohnM100]

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Problem is if you've got a 1DX or 1DX2 then any other model isn't quite going to cut it overall when compared against them. My 7D2 was great in good light but once the light deteriorated it was back in the bag.
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So true!

 

[soupdragon]

Not that I have any idea of the standards used by canon to categorize their slr range but, their literature states the 6D is an enthusiast camera and the 5D3 professional.
This is either a sales ploy or, the general standards of the respective models are well seperated.

I also share Phil V's comments regarding heft. I had not really considered the discomfort of carrying a wopping 1 series camera around for a whole day.

 

[Craigus]

Not that I have any idea of the standards used by canon to categorize their slr range but, their literature states the 6D is an enthusiast camera and the 5D3 professional.
This is either a sales ploy or, the general standards of the respective models are well seperated..

Pretty sure that it's a marketing ploy, they need to drive sales for them both somehow.

 

[Phil V]

Pretty sure that it's a marketing ploy, they need to drive sales for them both somehow.

I find the misunderstanding of product ranges and cynicism a bit odd.

From the floor up, the 6d has WiFi connectivity and gps, lighter weight, (the mk2 has a flippy screen).
The 5dIII has faster processors, is more robust and twin card slots.

As a pro tool, the 5 series are clearly the obvious choice. Nowt to do with their ability to produce beautiful images.

Originally the 5 series was sold as a serious enthusiast/ semi pro camera. Apparently pros needed a 1 series.

The market decided that the 5 series should be considered pro, it took them a while to add a 2nd card slot.

Nikon meanwhile realise that pros often buy just decent cameras, and have been offering 2 card slots in lots of cameras for ages.