Fujifilm X-H1

Riz_Guru said:
I owned the original Fuji X100 and had a great Fuji XT-2 setup, there is something special about Fuji, if only it had Sony internal gubbins with the Fuji exterior, firmware and GUI :Doh and was full-frame.
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I know people get hung up on full frame, not sure why to be honest, it's not like it's really full frame anyway (in 8x10 terms - it's still tiny!). As an ex 5D3 user, I'll take APS-C and the smaller lenses quite happily. Then again, I'm even happy with the tiny sensor on my phone given the right circumstances!
 
Furtim said:
I know people get hung up on full frame, not sure why to be honest, it's not like it's really full frame anyway (in 8x10 terms - it's still tiny!). As an ex 5D3 user, I'll take APS-C and the smaller lenses quite happily. Then again, I'm even happy with the tiny sensor on my phone given the right circumstances!
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Plenty of advantages hence why I moved back to Sony from Fuji...... ISO / DR ability being big points.
 
addicknchips said:
Should have got the faster primes rather than those f2’s
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Still won't match what a FF sensor can deliver, law of physic's unfortunately .... bigger sensor = more light gathering ability.
 
Riz_Guru said:
Plenty of advantages hence why I moved back to Sony from Fuji...... ISO / DR ability being big points.
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I know different people place different values on things, but while there are advantages of larger photosites etc, for me I've not found the dynamic range or high ISO performance lacking on any modern camera for some while now, so while one might be 1,2,3 stops better ( I really have no idea because I've not needed to look), it's not something that limited me for years now. Sure if I go back to my original digital camera (Casio QV10a), then I can see a change, but pretty much since my first Canon digitals 20 years ago (god I had to check that!) I've never felt limited and for sure over recent generations the improvements are somewhat more incremental rather than revolutionary.
 
Furtim said:
I know different people place different values on things, but while there are advantages of larger photosites etc, for me I've not found the dynamic range or high ISO performance lacking on any modern camera for some while now, so while one might be 1,2,3 stops better ( I really have no idea because I've not needed to look), it's not something that limited me for years now. Sure if I go back to my original digital camera (Casio QV10a), then I can see a change, but pretty much since my first Canon digitals 20 years ago (god I had to check that!) I've never felt limited and for sure over recent generations the improvements are somewhat more incremental rather than revolutionary.
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Agreed...... but you know me.... I suffer from Sony GAS :D
 
Riz_Guru said:
Still won't match what a FF sensor can deliver, law of physic's unfortunately .... bigger sensor = more light gathering ability.
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But when you shoot subjects such as wildlife, a decent APS-C sensor come into it’s own, with 50% more reach, you can still get the images you want, but don’t need 10kg of glass to make it happen....
 
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Furtim said:
I know people get hung up on full frame, not sure why to be honest, it's not like it's really full frame anyway (in 8x10 terms - it's still tiny!). As an ex 5D3 user, I'll take APS-C and the smaller lenses quite happily. Then again, I'm even happy with the tiny sensor on my phone given the right circumstances!
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One big advantage of FF for me is that I can use cheap old film era lenses at their original focal length. Without that ability I may just have stuck with APS-C or MFT.
 
addicknchips said:
It’s arrived.

Feels amazing in the hand with the grip attached. Evf is awesome. It’s super quiet even in continuous h shooting.

Have only tried it with the 18-55 so waiting on the 90mm to arrive before popping out
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What's it like compared to your Sony A7R II? :)
 
Riz_Guru said:
What's it like compared to your Sony A7R II? :)
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Curious. Are you looking to be convinced to jump ship to Fuji, or disparage them against all that is Sony? [emoji12]

Truly bizarre how many regular system swappers frequent this thread. Others will Love it, you'll cave in and buy it, then you'll moan about the waxy skin, wormy artefacts or the apsc sensor and jump ship back again.

Save yourself some time and money and just stick with what you have [emoji4]
 
Ian W said:
Curious. Are you looking to be convinced to jump ship to Fuji, or disparage them against all that is Sony? [emoji12]

Truly bizarre how many regular system swappers frequent this thread. Others will Love it, you'll cave in and buy it, then you'll moan about the waxy skin, wormy artefacts or the apsc sensor and jump ship back again.

Save yourself some time and money and just stick with what you have [emoji4]
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I am a techie by nature..... not looking to jump really as I have a Sony A9 ;)
Yes we do see a lot of GAS in the forums which some drives people to buy kit they didn't actually need.
I am firmly with Sony now however the quest for perfection sometimes leads to GAS.
A Fuji A9 (FF) would have be move back over.... :D lol
 
Riz_Guru said:
What's it like compared to your Sony A7R II? :)
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To handle and use it’s much nicer and faster. Even with the grip added the A7r2 doesn’t feel right in the hand.

There won’t be a need to use the electronic shutter as the mechanical is very, very quiet. It’s a shame the r2 is either loud or silent with electronic. No option to lower lower it.

Obviously the Sony will trump it with resolution, dm and high iso.

A Noticeable change from the x-t2 is the front and rear dials need a firmer push to click in. It’s a very solid camera.

The focus is really snappy. Though I want to test it properly and also to get an idea of how these batteries will hold up. With the bigger body and grip they definitely should have designed a better battery specifically for this x-h line.
 
Riz_Guru said:
I am a techie by nature..... not looking to jump really as I have a Sony A9 ;)
Yes we do see a lot of GAS in the forums which some drives people to buy kit they didn't actually need.
I am firmly with Sony now however the quest for perfection sometimes leads to GAS.
A Fuji A9 (FF) would have be move back over.... :D lol
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It's insane isn't it? It's a camera, a tool at the end of the day and so many think constantly moving helps them improve whereas sticking with one system (regardless of which it is) would probably help them more.

You should be set for quite a while with the A9 I imagine [emoji6]
 
Ian W said:
It's insane isn't it? It's a camera, a tool at the end of the day and so many think constantly moving helps them improve whereas sticking with one system (regardless of which it is) would probably help them more.

You should be set for quite a while with the A9 I imagine [emoji6]
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I’m far far more guilty than most for switching systems. Not under the illusion that it’ll improve my photography but I do enjoy using different stuff. If I’d simply stuck with a Nikon DSLR because that’s what I started with I probably would have given up through boredom.
I don’t have too many regrets trying different gear and what each offers over the other.
 
addicknchips said:
I’m far far more guilty than most for switching systems. Not under the illusion that it’ll improve my photography but I do enjoy using different stuff. If I’d simply stuck with a Nikon DSLR because that’s what I started with I probably would have given up through boredom.
I don’t have too many regrets trying different gear and what each offers over the other.
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I think provided you have a genuine reason for switching then if course, by all means go for it. I changed from Nikon to Fuji myself and have never looked back.

That's different to what I see in constant flip flopping from one brand to another because of the tiniest detsil, pursuing a perfect camera when in reality, there isn't one.

Slight rant I know and tbh if folks have the cash to do it then they're not harming anyone. It's just so boring seeing some of the questions asked of a new model as if that will somehow be the one for them. It won't, you'll find something else that annoys you and starteth the cycle over.

Anyway, rant over. I'm a little jealous of you X-H1 owners having bought an X-T2. Ibeont change but am interested in seeing views on it / sample images.

Cheers

Ian
 
Ian W said:
I think provided you have a genuine reason for switching then if course, by all means go for it. I changed from Nikon to Fuji myself and have never looked back.

That's different to what I see in constant flip flopping from one brand to another because of the tiniest detsil, pursuing a perfect camera when in reality, there isn't one.

Slight rant I know and tbh if folks have the cash to do it then they're not harming anyone. It's just so boring seeing some of the questions asked of a new model as if that will somehow be the one for them. It won't, you'll find something else that annoys you and starteth the cycle over.

Anyway, rant over. I'm a little jealous of you X-H1 owners having bought an X-T2. Ibeont change but am interested in seeing views on it / sample images.

Cheers

Ian
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I think you have to remember that for most photography is a hobby. Trying new gear can be fun and perhaps the shiny new camera builds gas and people can try to convince themselves that those incremental updates will be of benefit to them.

If I was fully invested into Fuji the xh1 would be a no brainier for me as I’ve always wanted ibis. The handling of the camera is also improved for my taste. Not that that may make my photos any better.

But I do find “it’s just a tool for the job” a fairly sad way of looking at the hobby. Unless you buy a car, say a Ford Focus. Would you drive it for 15 years until it’s no longer capable of doing the one job it was designed to do? Then and only then change it for another Ford Focus?
 
addicknchips said:
I think you have to remember that for most photography is a hobby. Trying new gear can be fun and perhaps the shiny new camera builds gas and people can try to convince themselves that those incremental updates will be of benefit to them.

If I was fully invested into Fuji the xh1 would be a no brainier for me as I’ve always wanted ibis. The handling of the camera is also improved for my taste. Not that that may make my photos any better.

But I do find “it’s just a tool for the job” a fairly sad way of looking at the hobby. Unless you buy a car, say a Ford Focus. Would you drive it for 15 years until it’s no longer capable of doing the one job it was designed to do? Then and only then change it for another Ford Focus?
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Not at all, I get changing cameras as I said. By the same token and using your car analogy, I'm not going to buy a shiny new Porsche and then sell it on on favour of something else because the clock or cup holders annoy me or before I've really learned to drive it.

I too am a hobbyist, but the hobby is taking photos, not buying equipment. Horses for courses I guess.
 
addicknchips said:
But I do find “it’s just a tool for the job” a fairly sad way of looking at the hobby. Unless you buy a car, say a Ford Focus. Would you drive it for 15 years until it’s no longer capable of doing the one job it was designed to do? Then and only then change it for another Ford Focus?
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You can get used to a tool and grow to accept it's limitations and foibles and even grow to love it for them, character and personality :D

This is one reason why I use older lenses more than the Sony 55mm f1.8. Sometimes less than perfection even if it gets in the way adds to the experience and even to the enjoyment of it all.
 
woof woof said:
You can get used to a tool and grow to accept it's limitations and foibles and even grow to love it for them, character and personality :D

This is one reason why I use older lenses more than the Sony 55mm f1.8. Sometimes less than perfection even if it gets in the way adds to the experience and even to the enjoyment of it all.
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But I guess when choosing a tool you choose the right one for the job.
 
addicknchips said:
To handle and use it’s much nicer and faster. Even with the grip added the A7r2 doesn’t feel right in the hand.

There won’t be a need to use the electronic shutter as the mechanical is very, very quiet. It’s a shame the r2 is either loud or silent with electronic. No option to lower lower it.

Obviously the Sony will trump it with resolution, dm and high iso.

A Noticeable change from the x-t2 is the front and rear dials need a firmer push to click in. It’s a very solid camera.

The focus is really snappy. Though I want to test it properly and also to get an idea of how these batteries will hold up. With the bigger body and grip they definitely should have designed a better battery specifically for this x-h line.
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It was the way it handles and the IBIS for the primes that sold it to me, I only went into a local camera shop to pass the time while the wife was shopping, but when I played with one for 20 mins that was it. A decent part ex price for the X-T2 plus the £100 bonus from Fuji and the deal was done.
Since I still have the X-T20 and an infa-red X-E1 I'm happy that the batteries are the same but I do understand what you say.
Spent a couple of days at Donnington BSB last weekend had the grip attached and used approx somewhere between one and a half to just under 2 batteries a day. Took approx 1,100 shots each day although I was chipping and playing with menus more than I usually would
 
What version? Was supported by CC before camera was released.
 
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