Fujifilm S8000fd or Fijifilm 5800fd ??

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Hello, New to the forum but been into photography since I was 16 (now 39)

I am replacing my Konica Minolta Z3 and was thinking of getting either a FujiFilm S8000fd or a Fijifilm 5800fd

Any advice welcome

I have read reviews on both and they seem pretty good

I will one day get a DSLR as I have had film SLR's for years but at present I can't afford it so its between the two fuji cameras. Or another suggestion with a good zoom and the same price (Approx £130)
 
Can i ask what Film SLRs you have?
 
Have a look at the Fuji Shop where you can get a factory refurbished S8000 for £100.98 Delivered if you use the voucher code PFEB09THF at checkout :)
 
MJ Stebbings said:
Can i ask what Film SLRs you have?
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I have a Minolta Dynax 4 plus a Minolta AF 75-300 Zoom and standard AF 28-80 lenses

Flash In The Pan said:
Have a look at the Fuji Shop where you can get a factory refurbished S8000 for £100.98 Delivered if you use the voucher code PFEB09THF at checkout :)
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Yeah thanks I saw that but they only have 6 months gurantee. If you pay £26 more you get a new one with 2 years gurantee
 
Have a look at the Sony Alpha DSLRs.
Save up a few extra quid and get one, you will then be able to use your Minolta lenses with it

Mike
 
MJ Stebbings said:
Have a look at the Sony Alpha DSLRs.
Save up a few extra quid and get one, you will then be able to use your Minolta lenses with it

Mike
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Probably expensive though ?

I still love my Minolta did a wedding as a favour for a friend and the photos turned out brilliant
 
I borrowed my parents FujiFilm S8000fd and found it sooooo slow compared to my old 300D also the lack of optical viewfinder was naff :(


It did however take some very good shots :)
 
mrgubby said:
I borrowed my parents FujiFilm S8000fd and found it sooooo slow compared to my old 300D also the lack of optical viewfinder was naff :(


It did however take some very good shots :)
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Ohh right not heard anyone say they are slow...good to get some new opinions.

Yeah my Minolta Z3 has an electronic viewfinder to, surpose that's because they dont have the flip up mirror like on film SLR's in front of film not sure if modern digital slr's have a flip up mirror in front of the sensor
 
the A200 with kit lens is about £250 at the moment. my advise is to wait....

also with the fuji's, you may get frustrated with the lack of speed with the zoom lens. Try finding a s9600 (like me) whihc has a manual twisty zoom, a la DSLR, or get the sony and use your minolta lenses.

It makes more sense to do that knw, than spend £130 on a camera that you know you will want to upgrade, and possibly sooner than later...........

And with the buying refurb, if you think about it, and extra £25, is an extra 25% on the cost of the camera for a 2 yr guarantee...is it worth that much...?
 
TheCrewDesigns said:
Ohh right not heard anyone say they are slow...good to get some new opinions.
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Compared to my DSLR the AF & shutter lag seemed terribly slow.


But I couldn't have got this with my DSLR without a very expensive lens :D

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lawrie29 said:
the A200 with kit lens is about £250 at the moment. my advise is to wait....

also with the fuji's, you may get frustrated with the lack of speed with the zoom lens. Try finding a s9600 (like me) whihc has a manual twisty zoom, a la DSLR, or get the sony and use your minolta lenses.

It makes more sense to do that knw, than spend £130 on a camera that you know you will want to upgrade, and possibly sooner than later...........

And with the buying refurb, if you think about it, and extra £25, is an extra 25% on the cost of the camera for a 2 yr guarantee...is it worth that much...?
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Not heard about the S9600 is that recommended ?

Thanks for all the suggestions really appreciate it.

I still think £25 is not bad for two years warranty but I will decide when I actually buy it (in a week or so)

mrgubby said:
Compared to my DSLR the AF & shutter lag seemed terribly slow.


But I couldn't have got this with my DSLR without a very expensive lens :D

jingle.jpg
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My point exactly.......

The S8000FD is never going to outgun the 'proper' DSLR's but its a good choice for someone like me with less cash at the moment. I can always upgrade later as I need a new camera now.

By the way that looks like an OK shot in tricky lighting
 
I had a S9600 for a few years - overall a decent camera for the price, and I reckon you could pick one up 2nd hand quite cheap, which might be a good idea if you plan to upgrade at a later date anyway ...
 
So the S9600 is a LOT better than the S800fd ??

Shame to loose that big zoom on the S8000fd but if the photos are that much better on the S9600 maybe I should get that instead

So any more opinions on the S8000fd
 
The 8000FD is much slower than the 5800. I own the 5800 and it's a great little camera, my parents own the 8000 and it's really sluggish compared.

Both are like snails compared to my Nikon D40 though which is to be expected.

As for the 9600 if you can find one buy it.
 
Hi I own a Fuji S8000 and for a general "knockabout" camera, it does the job nicely - once you get past it's couple of downsides.
It does seem to produce a lot of "noise" when images are taken on it's "Auto Settings" under poor lighting and indoors. It appears to take everything at 800 iso settings, but, switch over to the P setting and manually adjust the iso to 100 and the situation improves.
The 18 x zoom lens is all well and good, but I have noticed some vignetting effect around the edge of images when pictures are taken while the lens pushed to the max, especially in low lighting.
Doesn't sound good, doesn't it.
Yet, at the same time, for a cheap 'n' cheerful camera with a decent zoom lens in it's own right, it's actually a lovely little thing and really can't see myself wanting to sell it. For a knockabout camera to take to work (to have a wander about during the lunch break) or on a "fun" day out without worrying about lugging an expensive DSLR and various lens around, I can't really beat the S8000. Even it's older and smaller brother, the S5600 with it's 10 X zoom lens and 5 mp max pictures can still hold it's own very nicely.
Let's face it, this very camera was responsible for this collection of shots as shown below taken in the past six weeks alone.
I'll let you make up your own minds. Sorry there's a lot and that some of them are rather on the large side, but they needed to be for review purposes. Apart from the very last one, none of those pictures had been alterated or enhanced, apart from the usual reside and sharpen for internet use.

Below: Notice the slight inward "pincushion" effect on the sea's horizon.

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Notice the slight vingetting around the edge in this one, this was taken under "auto".

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As you can see, it's really not at all a bad all rounder for a camera. But I've also produced my fair share of duff shots. It's really a case of hits and misses and depending on how good you are with a camera in the first place (as if I'm not pointing out the obivious as it were!).
 
I started with a silmilar camera but nikon(coolpix 8800) Have just upgraded to D60. If you can stretch to a DSLR try the D40 there are some great bargins out there(ebay) and it will out perform any p&s in low light conditions when you up the ISO.
 
Ian D J - Thanks a lot for that, much appreciate all the info and the photos.

Those photos are impressive I would say but I do see the small faults you pointed out. Can I ask what zoom the photos were taken at ? Was any of those above at full zoom, just so I can see the quality....
 
TheCrewDesigns said:
Ian D J - Thanks a lot for that, much appreciate all the info and the photos.

Those photos are impressive I would say but I do see the small faults you pointed out. Can I ask what zoom the photos were taken at ? Was any of those above at full zoom, just so I can see the quality....
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I really should have numbered my pictures. :D The hoar frost trees were taken at maximum zoom, the others were taken at the equivalent of 10 x to 12 x (not all the way). :)
The Folkestone panorama was taken at wide angle (18 mm equivalence).
 
Thanks again..... That photo looks better than I thought on Max zoom. I heard some people saying the noise was terrible on max zoom..

So in your opinion would you:

Buy the S8000fd (with its faults but large zoom)

Buy the 5800 (and have a smaller zoom than the S8000)

Or try and find an 9600 at a bargain price


Also what is the macro mode like on the S8000fd epecially the super macro as I take a LOT of macro shots ??
 
I have an S5800, fab little camera. I love mine, and so does anyone whose used it. I had 4 people ask me if I was selling it when I got my SLR
 
Erin said:
I have an S5800, fab little camera. I love mine, and so does anyone whose used it. I had 4 people ask me if I was selling it when I got my SLR
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Yeah I read some greal reviews on it to and that was the camera I was going for. Then I saw the 8000fd and the huge zoom tempted me as I love telephoto shots
 
TheCrewDesigns said:
Thanks again..... That photo looks better than I thought on Max zoom. I heard some people saying the noise was terrible on max zoom..

So in your opinion would you:

Buy the S8000fd (with its faults but large zoom)

Buy the 5800 (and have a smaller zoom than the S8000)

Or try and find an 9600 at a bargain price


Also what is the macro mode like on the S8000fd epecially the super macro as I take a LOT of macro shots ??
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I will say that, yes, the S8000 produces quite a fair bit of noise when the lens is pushed to the max 18x zoom but if daylight is strong, you may just get lucky not to get too much of it. But don't forget that vingetting issue, although, like the noise at high zoom the vingetting may not appear under good strong daylight condition.
But you're right about the macro shot, this camera really does hold it's own when it comes to macro shot.
Here's a "test" shot of a nail file using the S8000. It was taken indoors hence the LED torch light used to improve lighting.

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But the zoom gets locked out when Super Macro is enabled so you can't do any arty depth of field-type macro zooms with it.
But like I said, the S8000 is a great all-rounder jack-of-all-trades camera for fun everyday use.
I've not owned a 5800, nor the S9600 so I couldn't possibly comment too much on those.
But I do have the S5600 and that's a delightful little camera and am finding it very hard to want to sell that. If anything, the picture quality seems to be better on that camera than the S8000, as if it has better lens but that could be my imagination. If you can pick up the S5600 at around £50 you WILL end up with a LOT of camera (complete with all manual SLR-type settings) for very little money. No question about that.
And yet, the odd thing is that the S5600 is capable of doing 15 seconds shutter speed, brilliant for experimental night time long exposures (great for light painting and motorway light trails) . . . and yet the S8000 can only muster 4 seconds shutter speed at the most. Very odd.
 
OK thanks, (Macro looks good)

So in a nutshell you would not recommend the S8000fd ?



By the way Ian D J how did you do the wing mirror phoot ? I did something similar years ago but you could see me holding the camera in the mirror. Can't see you holding it ?
 
Unless Susanne has updated her gallery lots after getting th s100fs, these macro shots were taken with the s9600.

http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=500&page=1&ppuser=1846

I would say to go down to a camera shop and have a play with the s5800fd, and also an s9600 if you can find one, or the s100fs, which is the newer version, and £350.

To me, the s9600 has a "twisty" zoom - you twist it and it zooms, rather than a motorized zoom, which is so slow...

and the s9600 is awesome for macro, it is just a shame they are expensive as discontinued and the s100fs is so expensive.
 
lawrie29 said:
Unless Susanne has updated her gallery lots after getting th s100fs, these macro shots were taken with the s9600.

http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=500&page=1&ppuser=1846

I would say to go down to a camera shop and have a play with the s5800fd, and also an s9600 if you can find one, or the s100fs, which is the newer version, and £350.

To me, the s9600 has a "twisty" zoom - you twist it and it zooms, rather than a motorized zoom, which is so slow...

and the s9600 is awesome for macro, it is just a shame they are expensive as discontinued and the s100fs is so expensive.
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Thanks for that, she has some nice photos
 
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