Fuji X-E1/X-E2/X-E2S/X-E3 Owners Thread

Yep, very interesting reading earlier posts in this thread :-)
 
Fuji have actually upgraded the X-E2 firmware several times since its launch including features such as:

  • Interval timer shooting
  • Support for the app (which is naff lol)
  • AF+M F fine tune
  • Classic chrome!
  • Faster EVF refresh rate
  • User selectable colour of focus peaking
  • Use of fn buttons for custom actions
And now:

http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_e2/features/page_08.html

  • Faster startup
  • Faster AF
  • Improved tracking
  • More accurate AF
  • Eye detection
  • Auto macro
  • Improved video AF
  • New AF modes inc. wide tracking etc.
  • Electronic shutter giving speeds up to 1/32000 second
  • New user interface
  • Shutter sound volume control (presumably for the electronic shutter)
  • White balance bracketing (up to three steps)
  • 3 x auto ISO settings in order to quickly change minimum shutter speed etc.
  • Exposure compensation in manual mode with auto ISO (this will be really useful actually)
  • Natural live view mode to simulate an OVF
  • EVF/LCD hue control (also could be useful as I find the EVF colours a little off)
  • New video frame rates
  • Ability to change aperture and shutter speed while recording video
  • Ability to quickly auto focus using phase detect points when in manual focus mode
  • Expansion of slowest shutter speed in program shift, up to 4 seconds
  • Shutter dial can be set to T and use the thumb wheel to select electronic shutter speeds e.g 1/32000 second
  • Silent mode has been renamed to "sound and flash" HURRAY!!! :D
  • DIrect selection of AF point
  • Ability to assign different functions to AF-L and AE-L buttons
  • Variable focus area during MF
  • Customisable Q menu
  • Interlocking of metering and focus areas
Well that's a pretty decent list of updates, great work Fuji!!! :D
 
twist said:
Seems they've come through for the xe2, good news.
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Absolutely, I'm very impressed. I reckon this will be the last serious update though, given the long list, and puts it close to the X-T1 functionality wise. Suspect that any additional updates will be for compatibility purposes only (lenses/flashes etc.).
 
manualfocus-g said:
Fuji have actually upgraded the X-E2 firmware several times since its launch including features such as:

  • Interval timer shooting
  • Support for the app (which is naff lol)
  • AF+M F fine tune
  • Classic chrome!
  • Faster EVF refresh rate
  • User selectable colour of focus peaking
  • Use of fn buttons for custom actions
And now:

http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_e2/features/page_08.html

  • Faster startup
  • Faster AF
  • Improved tracking
  • More accurate AF
  • Eye detection
  • Auto macro
  • Improved video AF
  • New AF modes inc. wide tracking etc.
  • Electronic shutter giving speeds up to 1/32000 second
  • New user interface
  • Shutter sound volume control (presumably for the electronic shutter)
  • White balance bracketing (up to three steps)
  • 3 x auto ISO settings in order to quickly change minimum shutter speed etc.
  • Exposure compensation in manual mode with auto ISO (this will be really useful actually)
  • Natural live view mode to simulate an OVF
  • EVF/LCD hue control (also could be useful as I find the EVF colours a little off)
  • New video frame rates
  • Ability to change aperture and shutter speed while recording video
  • Ability to quickly auto focus using phase detect points when in manual focus mode
  • Expansion of slowest shutter speed in program shift, up to 4 seconds
  • Shutter dial can be set to T and use the thumb wheel to select electronic shutter speeds e.g 1/32000 second
  • Silent mode has been renamed to "sound and flash" HURRAY!!! :D
  • DIrect selection of AF point
  • Ability to assign different functions to AF-L and AE-L buttons
  • Variable focus area during MF
  • Customisable Q menu
  • Interlocking of metering and focus areas
Well that's a pretty decent list of updates, great work Fuji!!! :D
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Why is exp comp useful in manual mode?
 
manualfocus-g said:
Fuji have actually upgraded the X-E2 firmware several times since its launch including features such as:

  • Interval timer shooting
  • Support for the app (which is naff lol)
  • AF+M F fine tune
  • Classic chrome!
  • Faster EVF refresh rate
  • User selectable colour of focus peaking
  • Use of fn buttons for custom actions
And now:

http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_e2/features/page_08.html

  • Faster startup
  • Faster AF
  • Improved tracking
  • More accurate AF
  • Eye detection
  • Auto macro
  • Improved video AF
  • New AF modes inc. wide tracking etc.
  • Electronic shutter giving speeds up to 1/32000 second
  • New user interface
  • Shutter sound volume control (presumably for the electronic shutter)
  • White balance bracketing (up to three steps)
  • 3 x auto ISO settings in order to quickly change minimum shutter speed etc.
  • Exposure compensation in manual mode with auto ISO (this will be really useful actually)
  • Natural live view mode to simulate an OVF
  • EVF/LCD hue control (also could be useful as I find the EVF colours a little off)
  • New video frame rates
  • Ability to change aperture and shutter speed while recording video
  • Ability to quickly auto focus using phase detect points when in manual focus mode
  • Expansion of slowest shutter speed in program shift, up to 4 seconds
  • Shutter dial can be set to T and use the thumb wheel to select electronic shutter speeds e.g 1/32000 second
  • Silent mode has been renamed to "sound and flash" HURRAY!!! :D
  • DIrect selection of AF point
  • Ability to assign different functions to AF-L and AE-L buttons
  • Variable focus area during MF
  • Customisable Q menu
  • Interlocking of metering and focus areas
Well that's a pretty decent list of updates, great work Fuji!!! :D
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Please bring these to the x100t now! I love mine but wish it had the xt1 focusing algorithms.
 
I was one of the people that started to doubt the xe2 would get the upgrade. The main upgrades were delivered the best part of a year ago for the xt1. The firmware was promised months down the line and then put back from November to February. It's a generous update, especially considering the 's' hardware will be so close but I'd guess they may support that further over the next 2 years. Fuji have done good. As someone pointed out, this catchup also needs to come to the x100t. I felt they could have done a bit more with the x100s tbh. Anyway, some excellent new features, really looking forward to loading the firmware.
 
costa27 said:
Now all we need is an X-E3 with weather sealing and that 24mp sensor:D
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Yep, thats what I'm waiting for too. Although it may be a while before I can afford it, better get saving now :)
 
Vanu said:
not entirely, the evf will be new and the grip will be improved.
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Same EVF in the -E2 and -E2S, no change there at all.

The one stop difference in the expanded ISO range is a victory for marketers over practicality. It's a firmware tweak, and it doesn't even interest me enough to see if it's in the fine detail of the 4.0 firmware for the -E2. Does anyone ever use expanded ISO modes?

The grip and the sharper eyebrow to the top plate are just cosmetic as is the label change to fn2. These are the only changes between the two. The change to the grip may or may not render -E2 third-party grips incompatible with the -E2S, that remains to be seen.
 
Ergonomically my XE2 is in a half case anyway which improved handling and have a metal frame grip that I have rarely used.
 
Alastair said:
Same EVF in the -E2 and -E2S, no change there at all.
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from a review:

Update: the X-E2s EVF has an enhanced “Organic EL” panel (also found on other Fuji cameras like the X30). Note that the X-E2 EVF also has an Organic El panel but is seems that the one on the X-E2s is slightly better. According to X-Photographer Max Angeloni the optical elements have also been improved. Long story shot, the X-E2s should give you a clearer view in the EVF but the resolution and time lag remain the same.
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"but is seems that the one on the X-E2s is slightly better"

Subjective opinion. Find something from Fuji and I'll believe it. As far as the specifications and descriptions from Fuji are concerned it's a cosmetic update only.
 
Alastair said:
"but is seems that the one on the X-E2s is slightly better"

Subjective opinion. Find something from Fuji and I'll believe it. As far as the specifications and descriptions from Fuji are concerned it's a cosmetic update only.
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Well if thats the case then it seems they have shot themselves in the foot with the firmware update, not that I am complaining. I can't see any XE2 owners buying this. I suppose the refresh may appeal to new buyers.
 
jakeblu said:
Well if thats the case then it seems they have shot themselves in the foot with the firmware update, not that I am complaining. I can't see any XE2 owners buying this. I suppose the refresh may appeal to new buyers.
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My prediction is that the X-E2S marks the end of the X-E2 which is presumably on run out and that the X-E2S will play the junior alongside an X-E3 in the same way the X-T10 is the junior to the X-T1 (hence the "auto" button). I foresee an X-E3 appearing before the end of 2016, probably late Q3, or Q1 2017 at the latest. Those waiting for an X-T2 will have a longer wait. Fuji know the hybrid-OVF is a Marmite option in the X-Pro1, there are at least as many don't want it as do. They need to get the x-trans III into a non-OVF body alongside the X-Pro1 quite quickly.

At the end of the day though, the already very good X-E2 is going to get a significant boost in the first week of February. The X-E2S might appeal to those with an X-E1/-A1/-M1, but it's not positioned to tempt anyone already with an X-E2 or X-T1.
 
Alastair said:
At the end of the day though, the already very good X-E2 is going to get a significant boost in the first week of February.
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My thoughts exactly, that's why I just bought one :)
 
I guess also with the X-E2s is that it will get further firmware updates that the X-E2 won't be getting in future?
 
R.Y.K. LEE said:
I guess also with the X-E2s is that it will get further firmware updates that the X-E2 won't be getting in future?
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Same insides, different shell. I see no reason why what works for the X-E2S wouldn't work for the X-E2.
 
R.Y.K. LEE said:
I guess also with the X-E2s is that it will get further firmware updates that the X-E2 won't be getting in future?
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I don't expect a huge difference given the hardware is identical but maybe Fuji will add Acros filters to the X-E2S just to give a bit of differentiation.

It's obvious that the X-E2S is a bit of a stop gap to ensure Fuji have a "new" camera in that market segment. Nothing really wrong with that although I imagine a few people will buy it expecting a more significant upgrade from their X-E2, certainly it's not the step up from the X100 to X100S.
 
Alastair said:
Same insides, different shell. I see no reason why what works for the X-E2S wouldn't work for the X-E2.
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Purely marketing. Example being that I have an old printer that works perfectly fine. But they have stopped making firmware/driver for it to work with windows 8/10. So I had to buy the newer, current model.

Same thing here. Nothing wrong with the X-E2, but the next firmware update for the X-E2s I assume won't be available for the older X-E2 (even though they are the same?). So if you want the latest firmware, you have to buy the newer X-E2s, at a higher price tag than the old X-E2.
 
R.Y.K. LEE said:
Same thing here. Nothing wrong with the X-E2, but the next firmware update for the X-E2s I assume won't be available for the older X-E2 (even though they are the same?). So if you want the latest firmware, you have to buy the newer X-E2s, at a higher price tag than the old X-E2.
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I would be very surprised if there's an update for either the -E2 or -E2S after the one in February (unless it's to patch a problem with the February update) other than to address lens/accessory compatibility.

Kaizen has been good to Fuji owers, but Fuji can only support the older platforms so far. They've currently got four sensors and three processors across the ILC X-series range. The earlier ones are not going to be the focus of significant development. They were all good camera when they came out that have been made better by firmware updates and we should be happy for that. Trying to get to clever with firmware isn't going to improve reliability of operation. Better to have a reliable camera working within the safe limits of the hardware and software.
 
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Fuji X-E1 - 14mm - F/11 - 3 sec

One from last April, I'm learning that I have an extremely slow workflow :p

Adam
 
To me the X-E2s is being released to allow fuji to re-market the camera with the new features that the upgraded firmware brings. It probably cost them very little to make the physical changes but gives the marketing team something to work with in terms of selling the significance of the firmware update to new customers. It's not a relevant upgrade for existing customers.

It ensures people looking at the new camera don't find spec sheets dating from 2013.
 
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If any of you do fancy a change to a xe2s or xpro2 I have just put a wanted up for a xe2 with 18-55.
 
matt b said:
If any of you do fancy a change to a xe2s or xpro2 I have just put a wanted up for a xe2 with 18-55.
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The refurb store still had x-e2 bundles last time I looked. You rarely find anyone asking less than their prices for a used X-E2.
 
Regarding the refurbs. Would you rather but a 2nd hand one from a dealer with warranty or a return from Fuji?
 
matt b said:
Regarding the refurbs. Would you rather but a 2nd hand one from a dealer with warranty or a return from Fuji?
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Both will have warranty, if they are the same price you may as well play the fuji refurb lottery. Easy returns either way.
 
matt b said:
Regarding the refurbs. Would you rather but a 2nd hand one from a dealer with warranty or a return from Fuji?
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I'd rather have it from Fuji, you know a refurb has had a once-over from a technician.

I currently have a refurb -E2 and a refurb 55-200. Both have given me no trouble and were cheaper than any second hand stock from a dealer.
 
Alastair said:
I'd rather have it from Fuji, you know a refurb has had a once-over from a technician.

I currently have a refurb -E2 and a refurb 55-200. Both have given me no trouble and were cheaper than any second hand stock from a dealer.
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Ive had a faulty unit from Fuji refurb (DOA) and read the same from other buyers. But returns are easy as with most.
 
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