Fuel prices: London petrol station sells diesel at nearly £2.50 a litre

Given that they're charging £2.389 for unleaded, I'll stick with Diesel and the extra miles it gets me per gallon over the petrol equivalent (which doesn't even exist.)
 
About time the govmt grew some balls and set a maximum price per litre for fuel , to cut out what is nothing bar sheer profiteering by these garage groups /owners .
It’s getting to the point of being a black market racket .

Next door neighbour told me it cost him over £1000 to fill up his lorry yesterday ,it’s now gone totally stupid
 
How far is the next station and what are their prices I wonder.
 
the black fox said:
...set a maximum price per litre for fuel , to cut out what is nothing bar sheer profiteering by these garage groups /owners .
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Do you know that for a fact?

The messages we get on this subject are rather mixed. For instance, The ONS published this explanation in 2016: https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/infl...reakdownofthecostofpetrolanddiesel/2016-01-22

...while in 2021 the BBC had a different take on the subject: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59508286

Then there's the investor's viewpoint: https://www.ehow.co.uk/info_12278620_much-wine-broker-make.html

It's all good fun to blame people for our troubles but it can be hard to know who to blame in a particular case.
 
I filled my Car yesterday at Tesco just outside of Glasgow - diesel was 189.9p a litre !
 
I filled my car a few days ago near Newcastle in Northern Ireland, at £1.79/lite, average prices being artound £1.85 but the odd one obver £1.90. Not sure what it is now we are home but I need to fill both cars so...
 
LeeRatters said:
Not really fantastic for someone like a home care worker is it....?
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i don't think care workers fill up in chelsea and mayfair mate, jus sayin
 
the black fox said:
About time the govmt grew some balls and set a maximum price per litre for fuel , to cut out what is nothing bar sheer profiteering by these garage groups /owners .
It’s getting to the point of being a black market racket .

Next door neighbour told me it cost him over £1000 to fill up his lorry yesterday ,it’s now gone totally stupid
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AndrewFlannigan said:
Do you know that for a fact?

The messages we get on this subject are rather mixed. For instance, The ONS published this explanation in 2016: https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/infl...reakdownofthecostofpetrolanddiesel/2016-01-22

...while in 2021 the BBC had a different take on the subject: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59508286

Then there's the investor's viewpoint: https://www.ehow.co.uk/info_12278620_much-wine-broker-make.html

It's all good fun to blame people for our troubles but it can be hard to know who to blame in a particular case.
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I don't know about the petrol forecourts but the oil companies are making huge profits this year compared to last.

Saudi Aramco profit first quarter 2021 21.7 bn first quarter 2022 39.5bn
Shell profit first quarter 2021 3.2bn first quarter 2022 9.13bn
BP profit first quarter 2021 2.6bn first quarter 2022 6.2bn

The oil companies on a whole have made huge profit in the first quarter of this year compared to last almost a 200% increase to over 81bn pounds and that's just first quarter profits.

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A few quotes from some of the CEO's.
Chief executive of Shell, said that the company’s performance “has been helped by the macro and the macro has been impacted by the war in Ukraine”. He added that this situation means “we do have a better company, we do have a better performance, and yes indeed our shareholders will benefit from that as well”.

BP’s chief financial officer, said in February: “Certainly, it’s possible that we’re getting more cash than we know what to do with.”
 
I filled my car up three weeks ago with petrol at £1.65 a litre which I thought was a bit on the steep side. (two year ago it was a quid).
Went yesterday to do the same and it was £1.77.
Good job I have a small tank and an economical car.

TBH it isn't going to get any better as long as the war in the Ukraine goes on, it is not just fuel that is going up, it is everything at the moment.
 
AndrewFlannigan said:
Do you know that for a fact?

The messages we get on this subject are rather mixed. For instance, The ONS published this explanation in 2016: https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/infl...reakdownofthecostofpetrolanddiesel/2016-01-22

...while in 2021 the BBC had a different take on the subject: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59508286

Then there's the investor's viewpoint: https://www.ehow.co.uk/info_12278620_much-wine-broker-make.html

It's all good fun to blame people for our troubles but it can be hard to know who to blame in a particular case.
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The expected reply from yourself !! What else can you call it I have a family member that works in a garage / forecourt and know the uptick on prices should be based on the price of the delivery I.e what the supplier charges them . So when there has been no delivery of fuel and the prices go up 5 or 6p a litre overnight it’s pure and utter profiteering ,the office wallers in there ivory towers can make all the excuses they like but that’s what it is pure and simple .
It’s now gotten totally out of control and in all honesty does need govmt intervention ,we are to bloody soft in this country and believe everything we are told without question
 
Nikon f1.8 said:
I filled my car up three weeks ago with petrol at £1.65 a litre which I thought was a bit on the steep side. (two year ago it was a quid).
Went yesterday to do the same and it was £1.77.
Good job I have a small tank and an economical car.

TBH it isn't going to get any better as long as the war in the Ukraine goes on, it is not just fuel that is going up, it is everything at the moment.
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yeah it is all over the EU as well , in Greece we have had amended electric bills with an "adjustment" that seem to have just been plucked out of thin air.
my leccy bill is about 20 euros a month usually as only some timers and lights and broadband + cameras are on and I got an extra 200 euro charge which my accountant says we should get half rebated in a short while.
 
the black fox said:
The expected reply from yourself !! What else can you call it I have a family member that works in a garage / forecourt and know the uptick on prices should be based on the price of the delivery I.e what the supplier charges them . So when there has been no delivery of fuel and the prices go up 5 or 6p a litre overnight it’s pure and utter profiteering ,the office wallers in there ivory towers can make all the excuses they like but that’s what it is pure and simple .
It’s now gotten totally out of control and in all honesty does need govmt intervention ,we are to bloody soft in this country and believe everything we are told without question
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I can assure you I dont believe a single word emanating from the mouth of Mr Johnson and his cronies
 
the black fox said:
The expected reply from yourself !!
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Splendid! At least I'm consistent. :naughty:
the black fox said:
I have a family member that works in a garage / forecourt
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Does s/he read the profit / loss account and the balance sheet? Does s/he know the firm's current relationship with its creditors? I know such things are of minor importance in running a business but the office-wallahs (please note the correct spelling) get all worked up about such things, as do those of us who are trying to get to the facts.
 
tarric said:
BP’s chief financial officer, said in February: “Certainly, it’s possible that we’re getting more cash than we know what to do with.”
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I've got an idea that would help everyone, but again its a sod you jack attitude...
 
Cobra said:
Its always a sod you jack I'm on board type comments from him.
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no its not that's just the how you would like it to be .

the answer to the question is we the UK have created the issues being experienced ourselves
firstly your pet hate BREXIT we are now a third world country and the EU doesn't give a f*** about us and rightly so

and then the fact that most if the UK can't even understand the concept of not going more than 200 metres without using there SUV or range rover or
other immense piece of s*** that belongs in the stone age, 30% of our children are overweight or obese because of this and there parents are even worse.
and as to ratters and his care workers rant , the price of fuel isn't why there f***ed its because they are lowest of the low in the pay chain , we talk about about
our elders being important but we barely pay them more than minimum wage.

and then we have the why do we have the current situation?

Ukraine in a nutshell but hang on that started in 2014 and did we step in then to help the Ukrainians then? did we f***.
because we were scared to kick over the Russians ants hill and cause us problems
which we now have because they eventually pricked our conscience when the Russians started killing there wives and children ?
 
Mr Bump said:
no its not that's just the how you would like it to be .
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You're the one that is always banging on about saving the world, lets get rid of diesel dirty etc. etc
And yet you happily fly to Greece, on a plane that is burning 1 gallon of kerosene every second ( yes I know its 28 second oil as opposed 35 second oil but its still fossil fuel)
That's what's generally called double standards.

Oh and I never mentioned Brexit, also something you like to raise at every opportunity.
 
Cobra said:
You're the one that is always banging on about saving the world, lets get rid of diesel dirty etc. etc
And yet you happily fly to Greece, on a plane that is burning 1 gallon of kerosene every second. ( yes I know its 28 second oil as opposed 35 second oil but its still fossil fuel)
That's what's generally called double standards.

Oh and I never mentioned Brexit, also something you like to raise at every opportunity.
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but that's all you ever bang on about me flying to Crete , you are so one dimensional its just so dull mate
oh and i notice you don't address the other points now thats such asurprise
 
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Mr Bump said:
no its not that's just the how you would like it to be .

the answer to the question is we the UK have created the issues being experienced ourselves
firstly your pet hate BREXIT we are now a third world country and the EU doesn't give a f*** about us and rightly so

and then the fact that most if the UK can't even understand the concept of not going more than 200 metres without using there SUV or range rover or
other immense piece of s*** that belongs in the stone age, 30% of our children are overweight or obese because of this and there parents are even worse.
and as to ratters and his care workers rant , the price of fuel isn't why there f***ed its because they are lowest of the low in the pay chain , we talk about about
our elders being important but we barely pay them more than minimum wage.

and then we have the why do we have the current situation?

Ukraine in a nutshell but hang on that started in 2014 and did we step in then to help the Ukrainians then? did we f***.
because we were scared to kick over the Russians ants hill and cause us problems
which we now have because they eventually pricked our conscience when the Russians started killing there wives and children ?
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I was using care workers as an example of people who need to drive to be able to actually work and or get to work. Not people who drive 200 yards to the local shops......
 
I'm in a beligerant mood and hope that the prats who put us in this position are having a really s***ty time of it.
Voted for Boris to get it done and you really have been, those w****r panzers and mini mansions will eat your cash up.
Every one percent rise in interest rates will push your disgusting level of personal debt to unmanageable levels.
Shame others have to suffer who don't deserve it, always the way.
 
tijuana taxi said:
I'm in a beligerant mood and hope that the prats who put us in this position are having a really s***ty time of it.
Voted for Boris to get it done and you really have been, those w****r panzers and mini mansions will eat your cash up.
Every one percent rise in interest rates will push your disgusting level of personal debt to unmanageable levels.
Shame others have to suffer who don't deserve it, always the way.
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Completely understand where you are coming from and it also annoys me the way a small minority is taking our country, not Brexit that’s done now and we will never get back what we lost but the way we are heading further to the right
The ones responsible have their money safely overseas, it’s ordinary people who will suffer
 
LCPete said:
...it’s ordinary people who will suffer
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However, it's "ordinary people" who are largely to blame for our problems.

Those who don't vote, those who don't contact their representatives at any level (parish, district, county or national) to make their views known... these are the real problem.

If you want a democracy to work, you have to do your share - not just say "I can't be bothered with all this nonsense".

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Wait until you find out how much they charge for a pint of beer in Chelsea.......
 
One of my favourite pubs was over that way, White Horse at Parsons Green.
Always looked forward to Fulham away for a few pints there pre and post match.
 
AndrewFlannigan said:
However, it's "ordinary people" who are largely to blame for our problems.

Those who don't vote, those who don't contact their representatives at any level (parish, district, county or national) to make their views known... these are the real problem.

If you want a democracy to work, you have to do your share - not just say "I can't be bothered with all this nonsense".

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Yes that’s true as well , I’m not sure what the answer is but the fact that the media who bear some responsibility for all of this (as an example the Mail ) are controlled by a few individuals
Edit but this is going off topic into politics so probably best said on the politics thread in the hot topics place :)
 
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LCPete said:
Completely understand where you are coming from and it also annoys me the way a small minority is taking our country, not Brexit that’s done now and we will never get back what we lost but the way we are heading further to the right
The ones responsible have their money safely overseas, it’s ordinary people who will suffer
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And if they don't, they probably have it invested in the energy or oil industry** maybe.....? :rolleyes:;)




** I could well be completely wrong there, but it wouldn't bloody surprise me!
 
the black fox said:
About time the govmt grew some balls and set a maximum price per litre for fuel , to cut out what is nothing bar sheer profiteering by these garage groups /owners .
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AndrewFlannigan said:
Do you know that for a fact
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I think we can safey assume that if one garage is selling it a £1.95 and another a mile down the road at £1.86 that either the first is profiteering or the last is selling at a loss.
 
whiteflyer said:
...either the first is profiteering or the last is selling at a loss.
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Or: one garage is buying at a less advantageous discount, owing to being an independent site, while its competitor is buying in greater quantities, due to being part of a chain or group and therefor gets a higher discount.

"It is a capital mistake to theorize before you have all the evidence. It biases the judgment." - A Study in Scarlet by Arthur Conan Doyle
 
Well Gulf must have a lot more garages than Shell or Texaco, cause they are the cheaper one
Then there are different price at the same supermarket chain, 2p a litre difference between Asda in my town and Asda 3 miles away ?
 
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whiteflyer said:
Well Gulf must have a lot more garages than Shell or Texaco, cause they are the cheaper one
Then there are different price at the same supermarket chain, 2p a litre difference between Asda in my town and Asda 3 miles away ?
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I refer you to my previous answer and add the advice of a song title: "Don't Assume What You Don't Know".
 
AndrewFlannigan said:
I refer you to my previous answer and add the advice of a song title: "Don't Assume What You Don't Know".
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Well I’ll assume what I do know , Asda and there forecourts now belong to the euro garages group , owned by two Asian gentlemen , and with the buying power of the group as a whole literally hundreds maybe thousands of garages all over the u.k it should be a level playing field and all garages in the group should sell at the same price , but no as mark has pointed out there are differences even between garages using the same name .. and argue as much as you like Andrew it really does stink of profiteering .
 
the black fox said:
...it really does stink of profiteering .
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Tut tut! That could be considered libelous in some circles.

I should get your proof ready, in case you receive a call from Carter-Ruck! :naughty:
 
the black fox said:
Well I’ll assume what I do know , Asda and there forecourts now belong to the euro garages group , owned by two Asian gentlemen , and with the buying power of the group as a whole literally hundreds maybe thousands of garages all over the u.k it should be a level playing field and all garages in the group should sell at the same price , but no as mark has pointed out there are differences even between garages using the same name .. and argue as much as you like Andrew it really does stink of profiteering .
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Distance from depot has an impact on forecourt prices, as does forecourt rent etc..
 
I filled my bike yesterday after an 80 mile ride. I went an extra 5 miles to a Tesco garage rather than use the closest garage to me since the price at the pumps (E5 Petrol) at Tesco is fully 11p a litre cheaper than the nearest one (the price difference was the same for diesel and E10 petrol). On my ride I was checking the pump prices of the garages I passed most were within 5p/litre of the price at Tescos except the garage closest to me. I'd rather ride the extra 10 miles than give that garage my money even if any gains I make at the pump are partially mullified by the extra distance.
 
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