"Found your lost bag, but I'm keeping your camera..."

[cambsno]

Just remembered an incident 7 or 8 years back... was getting cash from Tesco cashpoint, think i asked for £30 and it gave me £40. I saw other people getting the same so put in again and did same, then got my girlfiends card and did that (they had put £20 in the £10 container I think). You needed to take out an odd number to benefit i think, so we both took out as much as we could (along with many others) and probably gained about £150 or so.

Theft??? Bank did nothing about it, but can anyone honestly say they would have gone into the nearest RBS branch (7 miles away in a city centre) and handed the extra back??? Ok, i and others did take full advantage, but surely not everyone on here is whiter than white?

 

[Dale_tem]

Ok, i and others did take full advantage, but surely not everyone on here is whiter than white?

People are Daz ultra bright on the internet.

They are not always so in the real world, they just don't like to admit it.

Its the same with aggresive and rude people on the internet - they are nothing like it in the real world.

 

[CT]

Just remembered an incident 7 or 8 years back... was getting cash from Tesco cashpoint, think i asked for £30 and it gave me £40. I saw other people getting the same so put in again and did same, then got my girlfiends card and did that (they had put £20 in the £10 container I think). You needed to take out an odd number to benefit i think, so we both took out as much as we could (along with many others) and probably gained about £150 or so.

Theft??? Bank did nothing about it, but can anyone honestly say they would have gone into the nearest RBS branch (7 miles away in a city centre) and handed the extra back??? Ok, i and others did take full advantage, but surely not everyone on here is whiter than white?

LOL Well it's covered under being mistakenly paid too much in your wage packet - too much change, and similar circumstances where you knowingly pocket the dough and is theft. Seems a bit daft tbh when you've pushed it to the tune of £150 and the bank know who's making the transactions so I guess the bank wrote it off rather than upset a lot customers, but it wouldn't have been OK for me that's all I can say - my good name is worth more than 150 quid. :shrug:

 

[Bernie174]

Theft is the dishonest appropriation of property belonging to another with the intent of permanently depriving the other of it.
So yes, its pure and simple theft.
The fact that the person apparently found the bag is niether here nor there. Their duty was to either hand it in complete to the Airport Authority (The Airport is private property, and the owners have responsibility for found property, not police), or to return it again intact to the owner.
At the point where they decided that they were entitled to a reward it ceases to be good Samaritan and becomes dishonest, and the offence is complete.
The only justification would be to use some of the cash to pay for post and packaging.

 

[CT]

Around 1968, I found a briefcase containing a load of money like -crammed full with it -in the back of an unlocked Rolls Royce at about 3 a.m. I took it into the nick and we counted it to just over £80K. My salary at the time wasn't much more than £1K a year, Tempted? You bet your arse I was, but turning up for work in the Ferrari might have been a giveaway.

It turned out the guy had got drunk as a skunk in a local pub and walked to a mates house to sleep it off. To cap it off when he collected the cash he was as ignorant as **** and actually claimed there was a hundred quid missing.

 

[andya700]

The police only take possession of property found in the street or other public places. They won't for example take possession of items found in shops, on trains and buses etc. these places have to take their own responsibility for retention and storage of the items.

This is actually one of the cheekiest bloody things I've read in ages - I sincerely hope she gets caught and dealt with very severely.

I totally agree, and it is even sadder to find several people on here to suggest that it isn't theft!

 

[cambsno]

Around 1968, I found a briefcase containing a load of money like -crammed full with it -in the back of an unlocked Rolls Royce at about 3 a.m. I took it into the nick and we counted it to just over £80K. My salary at the time wasn't much more than £1K a year, Tempted? You bet your arse I was, but turning up for work in the Ferrari might have been a giveaway.

It turned out the guy had got drunk as a skunk in a local pub and walked to a mates house to sleep it off. To cap it off when he collected the cash he was as ignorant as **** and actually claimed there was a hundred quid missing.

What were you doing poking around the back of an unlocked car at 3am?

 

[andya700]

That's OK - I have a shocking cold at the moment. Lemsip anyone?

I'm a strong believer in Karma - what goes around comes around. My daughter lost her phone, someone found it, looked through the numbers, found mum and called. We dropped off chocolates and wine as a thank you.

I found a phone half submerged in the local lake, took it home dried it out in a bag of rice, charged it and it worked. Did the same trick and was able to return a phone to a school girl who'd lost it and was in trouble with her parents.

Found a couple of other items that were left on roofs of cars, then driven off - which is why I mentioned it. One went to the cop shop with the reg number of the car as it was all I had. The other I managed to flag down.

Long shot I know, but I try to treat people the way I'd like to be treated.

That is the best way to be I reckon. You never know when you will need a bit of help.

 

[Bend The Light]

Just remembered an incident 7 or 8 years back... was getting cash from Tesco cashpoint, think i asked for £30 and it gave me £40. I saw other people getting the same so put in again and did same, then got my girlfiends card and did that (they had put £20 in the £10 container I think). You needed to take out an odd number to benefit i think, so we both took out as much as we could (along with many others) and probably gained about £150 or so.

Theft??? Bank did nothing about it, but can anyone honestly say they would have gone into the nearest RBS branch (7 miles away in a city centre) and handed the extra back??? Ok, i and others did take full advantage, but surely not everyone on here is whiter than white?

You have just admitted theft on an open forum.

Edit: unless this is just a tall tale designed to "troll" this thread?

 

[CT]

What were you doing poking around the back of an unlocked car at 3am?

Unlocked car and briefcase clearly visble on the back seat. Do you really need to ask? Part and parcel of a copper's role -crime prevention.

 

[MartynK]

Just remembered an incident 7 or 8 years back... was getting cash from Tesco cashpoint, think i asked for £30 and it gave me £40. I saw other people getting the same so put in again and did same, then got my girlfiends card and did that (they had put £20 in the £10 container I think). You needed to take out an odd number to benefit i think, so we both took out as much as we could (along with many others) and probably gained about £150 or so.

Theft??? Bank did nothing about it, but can anyone honestly say they would have gone into the nearest RBS branch (7 miles away in a city centre) and handed the extra back??? Ok, i and others did take full advantage, but surely not everyone on here is whiter than white?

I haven't a clue what other people on this thread would, or would not, have done; but yes, I can honestly say that I wouldn't have carried on drawing money - taking care to request an odd amount - and I would have returned the overpayment. Nothing to do with being 'whiter than white' or the bank's failure to follow up. These are irrelevant. It's a lot simpler than that. I'm not a thief, and I do have a sense of honour.

 

[CT]

It's about how you value you own integrity and being able to look at yourself in the mirror. During the recents riots loads of otherwise respectable people took advantage and nicked stuff from shops which were already being looted and they squealed like stuck pigs when they got hauled in. No sympathy here I'm afraid - it's greed and the 'something for nothing' mentality. It must be OK because everyone else is doing it. I was amazed at how many people, including some MPs thought they were harshly treated.

 

[andya700]

It's about how you value you own integrity and being able to look at yourself in the mirror. During the recents riots loads of otherwise respectable people took advantage and nicked stuff from shops which were already being looted and they squealed like stuck pigs when they got hauled in. No sympathy here I'm afraid - it's greed and the 'something for nothing' mentality. It must be OK because everyone else is doing it. I was amazed at how many people, including some MPs thought they were harshly treated.

Great example. I am sure that many people thought - "They surely can't nick us all", so that kind of made it OK by their standards.

 

[cambsno]

It's about how you value you own integrity and being able to look at yourself in the mirror. During the recents riots loads of otherwise respectable people took advantage and nicked stuff from shops which were already being looted and they squealed like stuck pigs when they got hauled in. No sympathy here I'm afraid - it's greed and the 'something for nothing' mentality. It must be OK because everyone else is doing it. I was amazed at how many people, including some MPs thought they were harshly treated.

I sit on the fence on this. I thought the police or army should have given a deadline to stop, and then to charge right in and nip it before it became what it became. I also think that the sentances were right and correct (although they will serve less than half the time no doubt) so have no problem there.

My only gripe is that I am sure there were some fairly normal people who for some reason got carried away and joined in, and now have a criminal record and all that goes with it. Not excusing that, but you read time and time again about people being caught mugging,burgling,carrying weapons time and time again with a slap on the wrist, and then a normally decent person does something wrong and gets the full force of the law. I am not saying they should get away scot free, but when you watch what most of the scroats get away with on the police programs on TV you really do despair.

 

[CT]

Quite so. As an addendum to that Rolls Royce story everyone who had anything to do with that money were interviewed on suspicion of Theft - including me. I know I saw the Station Sgt put it in the safe and I'm pretty sure no-one pocketed any of it. The fact was though that the only person who was ever alone with the money and had the opportunity was moi.- so I was the one really in the frame.

The final outcome was that it was judged to be a malicious complaint which I'm sure it was, but I was interviewed 3 times over it. Happy days eh?

 

[CT]

I sit on the fence on this. I thought the police or army should have given a deadline to stop, and then to charge right in and nip it before it became what it became. I also think that the sentances were right and correct (although they will serve less than half the time no doubt) so have no problem there.

My only gripe is that I am sure there were some fairly normal people who for some reason got carried away and joined in, and now have a criminal record and all that goes with it. Not excusing that, but you read time and time again about people being caught mugging,burgling,carrying weapons time and time again with a slap on the wrist, and then a normally decent person does something wrong and gets the full force of the law. I am not saying they should get away scot free, but when you watch what most of the scroats get away with on the police programs on TV you really do despair.

I can't argue with that but the fact is certain people will be always be dealt with more severely by the nature of their job or position, coppers, solicitors bank staff etc. and anyone deemed to be in a position of trust with regard to money, and it's right that they should get hammered more than the average Joe.

The same thing applies to an older citizen with a clean record getting involved in something like the looting - it's a conscious decision to deviate from their normal honest behaviour and take advantage of a situation. They do it with their eyes wide open and they deserve what they get.

The pond life who commit offences regularly often come from backgrounds where they haven't had one decent example set them from the day they were born and who knows what the social enquiry reports on which judges base their sentencing say on the matter? Some of it will be BS no doubt, but some very valid too.

 

[NikkiA]

if a burglar broke into your house but only took half of the stuff he could have taken would you feel grateful to him?

I've been burgled several times unfortunately, but the one that sticks in my mind is the time when the burgler moved my guitars and my PC out of the way to steal a 4 year old video recorder and 10 year old B&W telly.

Grateful? Maybe if you include the fact that the insurance policy was like-for-like cash value and the only 12" B&W TV the insurance company could source was £500+ since they were such niche market items (essentially, they had to value based on a CCTV monitor, before CCTV really took off in the UK).

But mostly I just felt pity that he must have gotten home and realised how stupid he had been.

The other times I've been burgled were far less amusing though.