Ford focus rear engine mount?!

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Hi,
Just asking I have booked my focus in to get it fixed under warranty but I have to wait 2 weeks. Will this cause any more damage to the car if I still drive it?!

My engine shakes like its an American muscle car lol
 
If you drive it gently it shouldn't, the rear mounts mainly for engine vibrating when pulling away.
 
If its shaking that much I'd be concerned about it breaking the exhaust manifold/downpipe. I don't know exactly how the Focus is under the bonnet, but it happened to me on a VW Golf.
 
powell7 said:
If you drive it gently it shouldn't, the rear mounts mainly for engine vibrating when pulling away.
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Does it not effect the transmission box?! I heard it might do?! I don't have a clue.
 
Personally I wouldn't drive it, it could have a knock on effect on other components

Also this is the "out of focus" section so no ford focus posts in here please ;)
 
EYE_ON_ME said:
Does it not effect the transmission box?! I heard it might do?! I don't have a clue.
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It may do if you pull away hard or quick change between gears. You have two other engine mounts that hold the engine in position, the rear stops the rocking motion. Just drive it gently and it should be ok.

Why's ford not got any mounts ? It's a normal everyday car.

I work for Peugeot and if we don't have the parts in stock we can order them from Peugeot direct over night. I'm 99 per cent sure a ford dealer in the country would have one which they can ask for as your cars under warranty and has a fault.

I'd suggest this to them!
 
Hope this helps:-)
 
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Shine On said:
If its shaking that much I'd be concerned about it breaking the exhaust manifold/downpipe. I don't know exactly how the Focus is under the bonnet, but it happened to me on a VW Golf.
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Really?! I forgot to say that it also sounds like a boy racers car from 1st-3rd gear. The sound is coming from the front almost near the footwell?!
 
powell7 said:
It may do if you pull away hard or quick change between gears. You have two other engine mounts that hold the engine in position, the rear stops the rocking motion. Just drive it gently and it should be ok.

Why's ford not got any mounts ? It's a normal everyday car.

I work for Peugeot and if we don't have the parts in stock we can order them from Peugeot direct over night. I'm 99 per cent sure a ford dealer in the country would have one which they can ask for as your cars under warranty and has a fault.

I'd suggest this to them!
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its not they don't have any it's because they are fully booked in the near 3 garages :(
 
If your gentle with the clutch, it shouldn't do any harm. Does the car have a dual mass flywheel, if anything is likely to be damaged, it might be that, if you put too much shock through it. Don't any of your local dealers have a Rapid Fit facility, I'd have thought they could replace it there, and it's not exactly a long job, about ten minutes, if that.
 
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If the engine is moving about, it's not in line with other components, such as drive shafts, track rods etc, it's also putting unnecessary strain on the remaining engine mounts. It won't hurt the gearbox or clutch because they move with the engine, the same as manifolds. The downfall WILL BE where the exhausts join the manifolds, perhaps that's why it's making more noise. Put it this way, anything that is joined to the engine will be designed to move with it and should be ok, anything that's connected to the engine will very easily be battered into submission.
Personally I wouldn't drive it, It's safe for now, but if any of the aforementioned parts fails suddenly..........:thumbsdown:
 
Thanks for the replies, but I drive all round London etc do you think it will be worth calling and sayings its not safe and I don't want to break more stuff they would give me a loan car?! Lol long shot I know
 
I really wouldn't do the stop start stuff. Driven very carefully on a motorway, I'd still think twice, but stop start? No way. Something WILL break, and at the least a massive repair bill, at the worst, loss of control and having an argument with a lamp post.
 
Iv been a master tech for 6 years now and iv never heard of a lower engine mount causing a crash or loss of control. If it was us we'd do it for you waiting as its a 20 min job at the most or give u a car to use, if you drive the care with care it will be ok. Is it petrol or diesel ?

You could always call them and say if there's any related problems in the future then it's down to them as they could make time for you !!
 
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powell7 said:
Iv been a master tech for 6 years now and iv never heard of a lower engine mount causing a crash or loss of control.
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You've never heard of it doesn't mean it can't happen. You've been a master tech for 6 years, I can't compete, I'm just your ordinary, run of the mill mobile mech for 26 years.
Of course it can happen, extra movement in the engine causes extra wear and tear on other associated parts. The chances are, if.its petrol it won't happen, but what if?
 
Master tech for 6 years and mechanic for 18!

Forget what iv said because you MIGHT walk out tithe car tomorrow and it blows up !
 
not sure about ford focus but the older Peugeot's used to suffer quite a lot from play in the rear engine mount it just made the ride a little less comfy as the engine rocked a bit on de acceleration / breaking

if your concerned about causing further damage see what the garage has to say
it sounds as if they don't think it too important for it to be a danger or they would/should have taken it off the road
 
What model focus is it age/engine etc

The lower assembly is what's referred to as a roll restrictor, it's pretty much a fail safe device as long as the metal section doesn't fracture as the fixing bolts pass through rubber bushings, even in the event of total disintegration of the bush, the bolt is still fixed within the metal section. So you'll get a bang/clonk/knock when the engine twists through torsional rotation and the restrictor "bottoms" out but that's about the worst case. The engine won't drop out of the car and there isn't enough movement (due to the failed component) still being in place to allow the drive shafts to dislodge.

As the car is under warranty, the dealer would need to connect IDS and carry out an electronic session to diagnose, confirm the defects and gain a repair validation code / session completion before the part can be installed.

So, I'm afraid that in this case the quick 20 minute job to remove and replace the component is somewhat extended into something that could take up to an hour. The vast majority of rapid fit centers can't do warranty repairs either so that limits you to the main dealer workshop.
 
when my rear engine mount went it put strain on the gearbox etc and when you took your foot off the accelerator you could feel the gearbox jolt through the gearstick

Didnt feel too clever so got it sorted with minimal driving ASAP
 
DTS said:
when my rear engine mount went it put strain on the gearbox etc and when you took your foot off the accelerator you could feel the gearbox jolt through the gearstick

Didnt feel too clever so got it sorted with minimal driving ASAP
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That's what get sometimes, but will it be fords fault for not fixing it faster if more things go wrong?!
 
A worn roll resistor/lower engine mount won't put any strain on the gearbox, it just improves smoothness in the drivetrain of frontwheel drive cars. Hence why I said earlier if you are sympathetic with the clutch on pulling away and with gear changes you won't do any damage and should be safe to continue driving the car.
 
EYE_ON_ME said:
That's what get sometimes, but will it be fords fault for not fixing it faster if more things go wrong?!
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if things were to go wrong then i'd say it would most likely be your issue not theirs, as your the one driving - you should have stopped using it once you noticed the fault, is what i imagine they would say
 
That's true.


The terms of warranty explicitly state that the vehicle should be taken to the nearest dealer at the earliest possible opportunity, consequential damage is not covered.
 
DTS said:
if things were to go wrong then i'd say it would most likely be your issue not theirs, as your the one driving - you should have stopped using it once you noticed the fault, is what i imagine they would say
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Very hard to do when you work everyday driving morn than 50miles to work at 3am? They never told me to stop driving so why would it be my fault, I'm not a mech.
 
They never told you to stop because in real terms its not a major fault that's likely to do further damage to other components.

But your justification of "not being a mech" holds no water, you know it's not as it should be and that's enough.
 
digitalfailure said:
They never told you to stop because in real terms its not a major fault that's likely to do further damage to other components.

But your justification of "not being a mech" holds no water, you know it's not as it should be and that's enough.
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:plusone: Im sure it'll be fine as long as your not thrashing it! look after the car and it'll look after you
 
it will be putting extra wear and tear on your gearbox, bearings, driveshafts and hubs and everything else connected in any way to engine and down the line. Ford will not want to know if your car has problems 3 years and 1 day old, you are out of warranty and regardless of any other facts you will be left with the repair bill. My advice, don’t drive it. Its easy for others to say drive it carefully etc as its not them paying for any repairs if it does further damage.

You should demand they fit the car in for the work in a reasonable time frame, that is not 2 weeks. Tell them you will leave the car with them and they must provide you a courtesy car in the meantime, if it takes them two weeks then, so be it, you won’t be being forced to drive something that is not correct.
 
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