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no way of proving it but more than likely set up imho :)
 
I reckon it was staged! I love the photo but who the hell would wear such a skimpy outfit in winter....?
 
I did think it might have been set up, only by the woman in the red dress because the woman in black was looking at the photographer, i wonder when the point came he shouted "go" :D
 
Wai said:
I reckon it was staged! I love the photo but who the hell would wear such a skimpy outfit in winter....?
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How do you know it's in winter? Was just added in January, could have been taken earlier.

But true say, there's something oddly coincidental about it.
 
I didn't realise particular cameras had there own pages on Facebook. Thank's for pointing it out Graham :)
 
Byker28i said:
photoshop?
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I think i'm not sure but the black phoneboxes represent Westminster, it could be the border between the City of Westminster and the City of London, not many people know that there's two cities in Central London.
Notice how the two crowns are different at the top of each one.
 
Great piece of street photography. Very cynical to say its set up, I remember hearing Joel Meyerowitz talking about Cartier-Bressons images "he understood that into this space life would come. So its a game of pounce. Photographers pounce on a fraction of a second because there's a capacity to read all of this flux of daily life and see in it some tiny moment, some truth"
 
That's not a set-up - the woman in black looks too gormless and the woman in red is revealing too many chins - no way would those two have posed like that deliberately.

That's an excellent grab-shot.
All women in Manchester, Liverpool, Sunderland and newcastle will wear next to nothing when out on the town, whatever the weather...
And yes, black phone-boxes are City of Westminster.
 
Never in all my puff have I seen a black public 'phone box.

...or was it edited?
 
Arkady said:
That's not a set-up - the woman in black looks too gormless and the woman in red is revealing too many chins - no way would those two have posed like that deliberately.

That's an excellent grab-shot.
All women in Manchester, Liverpool, Sunderland and newcastle will wear next to nothing when out on the town, whatever the weather...
And yes, black phone-boxes are City of Westminster.
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Maybe not set-up, but there's no reaosn for it not to have been two shots spliced together. Far easier to wait for one person wearing red to walk one way and another wearing black to walk the other than to wait until both colours were in the right place at the right time and with no other people in shot.

Having said that, it could quite easily just be a great capture of a serendipitous moment.
 
Arkady said:
That's not a set-up - the woman in black looks too gormless and the woman in red is revealing too many chins - no way would those two have posed like that deliberately.

That's an excellent grab-shot.
All women in Manchester, Liverpool, Sunderland and newcastle will wear next to nothing when out on the town, whatever the weather...
And yes, black phone-boxes are City of Westminster.
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They saw you coming! lol :lol:
 
I don't think the black phone box is anything to do with Westminster. It's because BT offloaded a bunch of theirs and they were taken over by another company.

As an aside I think Hull only ever had black phone boxes because being a funny lot they were never part of the BT network.

As to the photo - if you were going to set up surely there'd be a bit more to it than what's here. It looks like a decent street grab but it's a bit of a waste if it really was set up.
 
Why the doubters? Why would this shot have been set up?

Are wildlife photographers questioned when they capture a 'kill' of a wild big cat? Are sports tog's questioned when they capture a magical moment at an event?

Sometimes you end up in the right place at the right time and are able to capture it. Sometimes you have to stake out a location for a while before you get what you want.
Sometimes you go out with the camera, the best laid plans and nowt happens.

Lets give the photographer the recognition for an good idea and a reasonable execution.
 
gingerjon said:
I don't think the black phone box is anything to do with Westminster. It's because BT offloaded a bunch of theirs and they were taken over by another company.
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True, the black ones are only telephone boxes managed by another telco.

As an aside I think Hull only ever had black phone boxes because being a funny lot they were never part of the BT network.
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Hull telephone boxes have always been cream. This predates the formation of BT to the times when the phone service was part of the GPO.
 
gingerjon said:
I don't think the black phone box is anything to do with Westminster. It's because BT offloaded a bunch of theirs and they were taken over by another company.

As an aside I think Hull only ever had black phone boxes because being a funny lot they were never part of the BT network.

As to the photo - if you were going to set up surely there'd be a bit more to it than what's here. It looks like a decent street grab but it's a bit of a waste if it really was set up.
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not quite to do with the shot i know but the black telephone box is still a BT box but they were allowed to be black in certain historical areas.
Chester had black BT boxes for a long time until the new stainless steel ones arrived....

as for the shot, i like it, almost looks as if posed but to look not posed to me:)

T
 
any decent setup should be designed to look natural, all the comments about the woman looking gormless and it not being perfect are exactly what makes it a good setup, if it were perfectly staged nobody would believe it unlike now where lots f people are being sucked in.

Take a look at the viral advertising on youtube, it's rough and ready, makes it look like an amateur has done it which makes it all the more believable.
 
In any case it's a fairly ordinary photo because (a) the women aren't terribly attractive, and (b) if you were going to set it up, then the woman in black would be wearing a black version of the red outfit - then it would be clever...as it is, who really cares?
 
Arkady said:
In any case it's a fairly ordinary photo because (a) the women aren't terribly attractive, and (b) if you were going to set it up, then the woman in black would be wearing a black version of the red outfit - then it would be clever...as it is, who really cares?
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but then everyone would know it was a setup rather than people thinking it's a clever little moment caught on camera which is why people like it. Not because it's an amazing technical or artistic shot.

Also, careful about saying photos are ordinary because they don't contain attractive women, there are plenty of excellent photos with woman that aren't attractive in them, it's not mandatory
 
Why should I be careful in saying I prefer to look at attractive women rather than plain, ordinary ones? Thanks for pointing this out by the way... A handbag can definitely do some damage when wielded by an irate sturdy-girl...
I agree - there are many great and memorable images containing women who do not qualify as supermodels, but this isn't one of them.
 
Arkady said:
Why should I be careful in saying I prefer to look at attractive women rather than plain, ordinary ones? Thanks for pointing this out by the way... A handbag can definitely do some damage when wielded by an irate sturdy-girl...
I agree - there are many great and memorable images containing women who do not qualify as supermodels, but this isn't one of them.
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well thats not what you said, you said:

In any case it's a fairly ordinary photo because (a) the women aren't terribly attractive

implying that for a photo to be anything than ordinary it needs the women to be attractive.
 
I don't think it was posed, as if it were I believe both women would have been looking straight in front of them. And for the winter comment, I think it was shot at a warmer time. Why ?? this brings to the next point, if you look in the left hand window there is a couple reflected and he is wearing a t-shirt. Also if posed would you not have removed that couple in the reflection.
Just one of those moments that clicked.
 
joescrivens said:
well thats not what you said, you said:

In any case it's a fairly ordinary photo because (a) the women aren't terribly attractive

implying that for a photo to be anything than ordinary it needs the women to be attractive.
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lol...I also said "...and (b) if you were going to set it up, then the woman in black would be wearing a black version of the red outfit..."

I didn't say it made it bad, but ordinary...ordinary people generally look ordinary... as they do in this case...I think it's a good idea which could have been made better with some more planning had the concept had been taken a stage further...

The use of hired models wearing more appropriate clothing would have made what's a superficially-interesting image something more memorable - Perhaps leggy models wearing red and black (but otherwise matching) outfits and 'big' hats, both looking back at one another - in that "oh no I'm wearing the same outfit to the party" look...
Usually to make a spectacular image, you generally need to photograph something or someone spectacular in a spectacular manner...

...and ordinary doesn't necessarily mean unattractive...
 
I snapped this just the other day after seeing that pic and got a lot of inspiration, imagine looking down at my desk and seeing that I had randomly placed these jelly babies and pencil sharpeners in exactly this formation! I couldn't believe my luck!

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I think that's fake - look at the froth on the coffee - it 'just happens' to look like a topographical map of Northern Eritrea upside-down and back-to-front - yeah, right!

C'mon, do you think we were born yesterday???
 
That is soooooo not fake,

If I had faked it I would have had more attractive looking jelly babies
 
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