Flying Scotsman ??

[joxby]

I can't figure out what's going on with it.

So I saw Tornado today, up on the NY moors at Levisham, and what a damn fablious thing it is too.
Pics or it never happened ?......Velvia 50 can't be rushed

Not being up on the comings and goings of all things steam, I understand this is a brand new loco, cost 3 million squids and is welded rather than riveted together, it has the same vital statistics as the Scotsman and carries its number 4472.
What's happened to the Flying Scotsman then, retired ?, Tornado carried both names.
It went through Levisham with 20 coaches, and came back an hour later tied to the back of a diesel cos it broke...:shake:

 

[daftbugga]

tornado is as you rightlysay a brand new loco built to old an old design namely an A1 class it is in fact the only A1 in exsistence ,without tornado the A1 would be extinct.

welded rather than rivetted ??

yes the boiler is the rest of the rest of the loco is built to a traditional design with modifications to suit the present day railway .
BTW the boiler was built in germany .

flying scotsman an A3 class meanwhile is another loco , having been bought for the nation is at york musuem being overhauled , a job thats taking a lot longer than expected .

due to all sorts of things it's return to active service service keeps getting delayed..

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when you say tornado carried both names i presume the name tornado ( the name of the loco )was on the loco while the flying scotsman name was carried on the smokebox (the bit below the chimney )in the form of a head board the head board being the name of the train ,hence your confusion ..

 

[daftbugga]

It went through Levisham with 20 coaches, and came back an hour later tied to the back of a diesel cos it broke...:shake:

hello again joxby

are you sure it broke down ?

20 coaches on is a lot more more than usual on that line , tornado has until now ben very reliable so i'd be suprised if it had broke ,it may well be that having got to 1 end of the line it couldn't get round the train to get back again .
hence having a diesel @ the other other end of it......

 

[joxby]

Might be just the boiler that's welded, I dunno where I read that.
It carries both names with the Flying Scotsman board on the front just above the buffers like you say, the Tornado plaque is on the side of the boiler level with the chimney.
The number isn't 4472, no idea where I got that from, I just checked a coolpix, its 60163 :bang:
Right so FS is in the pits getting steel brushed, I suppose the only things un-answered are, why it has FS on the front and what's the difference between an A3 & an A1 class loco, and does that effect the validity of the claim that Tornado has the same or similar specs as that of the FS.
I don't even know why I care, it was just an incredible thing to be so close to, the noise the heat, spewing steam smoke and water, wheelspins , I should just leave it at that...
Thanks all the same daftbugga..

Edit, yes it did break, its a very small station, the signal operator must be used to peeps asking when the next train is due, the phone was constantly ringing in the signal box, I overheard him telling some buffs it was gonna be half an hour late whilst they hooked up the diesel to tow it back "in disgrace"

 

[chameleon]

The boiler is welded as it was built to modern standards in Germany.
The Flying Scotsman was a named train before it was a named loco. The headboard used to be used to let the passengers at stations and the signalmen on the line know what train it was as it was underway. They probably had it on it at the NYMR as it recreated the old scene and it probably looked nice!
I gather it had a leaking fusable lead plug in the firebox (a safety device if the water gets too low in the boiler) so it was failed as a precaution.
Personally I blame Jeremy Clarkson. It was fine until he got his hands on it for a race up the east coast main line...