Don't know if this should be in the beginners section or not but since it is flash and lighting related I thought is would fit here. Here's a great guide to flash photography that some people may find useful. Just to warn you - it's a biggie.
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Thanks for that, it looks interesting I will have a read later
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@Dave_S09
Are you linked with the author?
I'm suspicious of your posting links to 'helpful' websites which are of questionable usefulness to anyone other than the site owners.
There's too much inaccuracy within the links and they appear to have been written more for search engines than photographers.
Are you linked with the author?
I'm suspicious of your posting links to 'helpful' websites which are of questionable usefulness to anyone other than the site owners.
There's too much inaccuracy within the links and they appear to have been written more for search engines than photographers.
I am not linked to the authors at all
Please enlighten me - what's wrong with the flash guide I have provided the link to? I am REALLY struggling to see what the problems is with it.
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Well from the first page it gives a really ambiguous description of the '2 exposures' then goes on to say that in semi auto modes both Canon and Nikon cameras will fix a lower SS when flash is used (they don't 'out of the box') then it got even more confused regarding 2nd curtain sync.
I gave up at that point. But this follows the 'useful' guides you posted the other day which were truly awful, so you can't blame us for getting suspicious.
You know what - I can't be bothered with this site. I will go over to a US based photography forum where other members are courteous and polite and don't rip new members apart and, basically cyber bully them. I see lots of criticism from you but where are your solutions? Perhaps you can post a few links to better and more useful sites?!? I thought it would be good to try and get on a UK based forum, i.e. one in my native country, but I am totally wrong and have been naive.
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Of course we're all welcome to our own opinions and sometimes, how something is read can be quite deceiving. A bit like reading a novel; we all read the same but we make our own mental images. Guaranteed none would be the same!
Phil has some 17,000+ posts. I've not read them all but whatever I have read them I ALWAYS find more than nugget of truth and a depth of photographic wisdom with which I can live. Are there solutions in that plethora of postings? You bet ya! This is from somebody who has been involved with photography for over half a century and I can learn from Phil.
Would I dismiss his words? Not without investigation.... . Some people live in Counties where plain speaking is the norm - form you're own opinion. As a matter of interest look at some of things Gary Cole (RIP) used to post on here.... there was a man who called a spade a spade (some would say to point of irritation) but was he respected on here? .... yes, and sorely missed!
If you feel you have to go somewhere else: fine. But don't dismiss what people say - sometimes it's down to what we want to hear and interpretation.
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Dave, please don't throw you're teddy out of the pram just yet...
You say you're not aligned with the authors of the website - that's fine by me (and yes folks, I did check - it's part of the job description when we get reports - due dilligaff (sic) and all that ... ) - even though you've actually now posted links to the site in two different threads - that is, in fairness, enough to set alarm bells ringing.
However, I am aware that Phil is a working (semi) pro photographer who uses flash extensively in his work. I'm far from an expert on that field (I use studio heads occasionally, but generally in a trial and error fashion and it takes me ages to set things up - which is why I work mostly in still lifes... people would walk away in disgust at the waiting!) so I can't say for myself how good or otherwise the guide you posted a link to is - but I'm inclined to believe Phil if he says it was inaccurate enough for him to "walk away" from on a cursory read.
Perhaps I'm used to Phil's "straight talking" - being a fellow yorkshireman, we don't just call a spade a spade, we call it a bloody shovel...
I really don't see one comment stating that the linked thread wasn't up to much and questioning your motives for posting amounts to "cyber bullying" - it's a straightforwardly phrased enquiry, which frankly should have been posed to half a dozen people before you who have posted similar things - and which have turned out to be their own monetized blogs...
If you really feel so upset about that single query, then we have a handy tool for this - the "ignore" button - though I'd suggest that perhaps considering a more robust attitude to inter-forum relations might be a more sensible move. And maybe stop posting links to that damned forum ?
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Simple answer is to stop linking to that site. The information is poor and mostly bland waffle. Really, it's not good. If you think you'll get a better reception on US forums you're in for a shock. As forums go, this place is very friendly and well moderated.
Hang around here a bit. Give us a chance
Hang around here a bit. Give us a chance
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It may have been much better to ask if the link was a good one - you may be new to the forum but some of us have been here a while and been doing photography a lot longer.
If you have questions then ask, if there is an answer you will probably get it here.
Yes many of us speak as we see, it stops the forums being used, abused and spoilt but cyber bullying ain't on the menu.
Mike
It may have been much better to ask if the link was a good one - you may be new to the forum but some of us have been here a while and been doing photography a lot longer.
If you have questions then ask, if there is an answer you will probably get it here.
Yes many of us speak as we see, it stops the forums being used, abused and spoilt but cyber bullying ain't on the menu.
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TBF, I think the information is perhaps simplistic, but not "wrong." It did not say it would "fix" a lower SS... it said it would likely reach the min SS limit indoors (low light), which is fairly common.
I didn't bother trying to read all of the information... it seems like a regurgitation of collected information and about as easy to read as a translated owner's manual.
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As above really.
A wander down this subforum will yield better written and more accurate advice for using flash. I'm far from an 'expert', so if I can pick holes in that site it's clearly 2nd rate.
Your posts when not promoting that site have been welcome, friendly and I'm sure useful too, you'll fit in wonderfully round here without those links, which don't do you any favours. If you've got questions, post them for a friendly response, if you've got answers you'll get thanks, but unsolicited links to crappy websites are rarely welcome.
My experience of other English language fora supports the post above, this genuinely is one of if not the friendliest photography forum.
As above really.
A wander down this subforum will yield better written and more accurate advice for using flash. I'm far from an 'expert', so if I can pick holes in that site it's clearly 2nd rate.
Your posts when not promoting that site have been welcome, friendly and I'm sure useful too, you'll fit in wonderfully round here without those links, which don't do you any favours. If you've got questions, post them for a friendly response, if you've got answers you'll get thanks, but unsolicited links to crappy websites are rarely welcome.
My experience of other English language fora supports the post above, this genuinely is one of if not the friendliest photography forum.
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You know what? I was thinking exactly the same thing, because when I clicked on your link and found that the info was less than helpful my natural suspicion kicked in.
I don't blame you for posting it, at first sight it does look credible, but people who have basic knowledge/experience tend to pick up on failings pretty quickly.
And I echo what others have said about the friendliness of TP - if anything, IMFFHO, it's probably too friendly and too tolerant. I used to help administer a USA site, probably the biggest one there is, and the attitude there was far less friendly and far more self-serving. Stay here and help to make this site even better
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