Flash at 1/8000th

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PART 1

I have just been trying out my flash with camera shooting at up to 1/8000th of a second.

Whilst I would not normally shoot at this speed with flash what particular situations may it be useful.

I assume fast moving say down hill cycling, longjump etc.

Thanks

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PART 2

This has nothing to do with the part 1 above

I also want to do more of this, shot with STROBE lighting.

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Has anyone else tried this with either a strobe flash or a strobe unit
 
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scottthehat said:
i would of thought that at 1/8000th sec this would be frozen.
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If you care to read my post a second time you will see it is two parts.

The first stated that i have been out trying my flash with the camera set to 1/8000th of a second, and asks whet people would use flash with a shutter speed of 1/8000th of a second for.

The second part of my post shows the photograph and states "strobe" and asks if anyone else has tried this.
 
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JSER said:
If you care to read my post a second time you will see it is two parts.

The first stated that i have been out trying my flash with the camera set to 1/8000th of a second, and asks whet people would use flash with a shutter speed of 1/8000th of a second for.

The second part of my post shows the photograph and states "strobe" and asks if anyone else has tried this.
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It's common, goes under a few different names, high speed sync, HSS, auto Fp (I think). So no you're not the first person to try syncing past the cameras defined shutter sync speed. It's a feature built into most newer digital slrs and flash guns.

Pocket wizard's new triggers work with high speed sync and allow it to work with strobes I believe.

Uses are of course freezing motion, but also shooting in bright conditions whilst maintaining shallow depth of field.
 
Probably for high-speed fill-in with bright light and low apertures.

I'd have though using the stroboscopic mode with a 1/8000th shutter would limit the number of flashes. I don't know the quickest frequency you can get but I suppose it's limited by overall flash power.

I suppose for bird togging like you do, it may come in handy. Do you prefer the strobe look or the single flash?
 
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JSER said:
If you care to read my post a second time you will see it is two parts.

The first stated that i have been out trying my flash with the camera set to 1/8000th of a second, and asks whet people would use flash with a shutter speed of 1/8000th of a second for.

The second part of my post shows the photograph and states "strobe" and asks if anyone else has tried this.
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Yeas sorry your right, and for this type of picture it does not work. I dont really like to use flash for wildlife, but each to there own.
and flash, strobe what ever you wanna call it does the same job.
 
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scottthehat said:
Yeas sorry your right, and for this type of picture it does not work. I dont really like to use flash for wildlife, but each to there own.
and flash, strobe what ever you wanna call it does the same job.
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I just see a blurry bird & with your camera set to 1/8000th there would be no power left in your flash I think that shot would of looked exactly the same if your flash had fired or not.

You'd need to pay alot of dosh for a flash with a duration that short.
 
Sorry perhaps I need to explain again.

The shot of the bird was taken with STROBE and has nothing to do with the first part of the post shooting at 1/800th of a second, both are 100% different posts 2 in one, the bird was shot at about 1/250th with strobe.

I have not yet tried any serious shooting with HSS which is totally different to strobe.
 
kiteninja said:
I just see a blurry bird & with your camera set to 1/8000th there would be no power left in your flash I think that shot would of looked exactly the same if your flash had fired or not.

You'd need to pay alot of dosh for a flash with a duration that short.
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Sorry you have missed the point see my latest comments.

The bird has nothing to do with shooting at 1/8000th it was shot with strobe to show a bird launching itself this is what it should look like it is not blured

Oh and a lot of dosh !, perhaps both my Metz 45 cl4 digitals at £500 each come into that category :cool:
 
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Well that was a painful start to a thread. :D

scottthehat said:
.. flash, strobe what ever you wanna call it does the same job.
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A flash is not a strobe. Americans are just lazy with their language. They do very different jobs.

You can do some interesting things with strobes, just need to take some time to plan out what's going to happen in advance I think so you don't end up with a big mess in one point of the image. :thumbs:
 
The thing with stroboscopic is you need to minimise the ambient for the effect to look good. In the case of the blue tit shot, the bird isn't standing out enough from the background. It's also about getting the frequency right so it catches the movement clearly.

Out of interest, what flash power were you using?
 
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Jayst84 said:
Well that was a painful start to a thread. :D



A flash is not a strobe. Americans are just lazy with their language. They do very different jobs.

You can do some interesting things with strobes, just need to take some time to plan out what's going to happen in advance I think so you don't end up with a big mess in one point of the image. :thumbs:
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so the Metz 45 cl4 are flash heads and not strobes then is that right.
 
fracster said:
It looks bloody awful to me.
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A truly objective comment just as I would expect from you.

Anyone can make inane comments about others work, it takes experience to offer advice.
 
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specialman said:
The thing with stroboscopic is you need to minimise the ambient for the effect to look good. In the case of the blue tit shot, the bird isn't standing out enough from the background. It's also about getting the frequency right so it catches the movement clearly.

Out of interest, what flash power were you using?
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Thank you, this is the first I have taken.

The strobe effect according to Metz is about 40-60 per second, at full power, I have to experiment more.
 
scottthehat said:
so the Metz 45 cl4 are flash heads and not strobes then is that right.
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Not according to Metz, who have passed my findings on for analysis, I have been able to make a 45 cl-4 digital "srobe".
 
JSER said:
A truly objective comment just as I would expect from you.

Anyone can make inane comments about others work, it takes experience to offer advice.
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Perhaps if you posted a decent photograph of the subject using your new techniques, would that not be more beneficial to the readers and viewers of the thread?

As it is, the photo you posted just looks like a badly taken photograph. Would you not agree?
 
JSER said:
Thank you, this is the first I have taken.

The strobe effect according to Metz is about 40-60 per second, at full power, I have to experiment more.
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That'll be full power split over 40-60 bursts I take it. Maybe try at the low
 
JSER said:
Thank you, this is the first I have taken.

The strobe effect according to Metz is about 40-60 per second, at full power, I have to experiment more.
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That'll be full power split over 40-60 bursts I take it. Maybe try at the lowest power setting, as this will give you the fastest flash durations.

Definitely an interest effect, but one I'm sure that needs some experimenting to nail :)
 
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