FishEye for 40d

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Can anyone recommend a decent Fisheye for a 40d/crop sensor body? Or am i right in thinking that you cant really get a decent fisheye for crop sensors?
I dont mind what brand it would be either

Mike
 
The Tokina 10-17 is popular with the skate/snowboard photography crowd. There is the new Sigma 10mm if you want a square fisheye. As AndrewC says if you want one of the round image fisheyes it has to be the Sigma 4.5mm.
 
There are basically two different sorts of fisheye: circular and diagonal.

Circular fisheyes produce circular images (doh). The angle of view is 180 degrees.

Diagonal fisheyes produce rectangular images. The angle of view is 180 degrees across the diagonal, but obviously less in the horizontal and vertical dimensions.

For a crop-sensor camera like the 40D, I believe the Sigma 4.5mm is the only circular fisheye which will gve you an entire circular image. Other circular fisheyes, such as the Sigma 8mm and Peleng 8mm, will produce an entire circle on full-frame but a cropped circle on a cropped sensor.

If you want a diagonal fisheye, then the Sigma 10mm is pretty much the only one which will give you the full 180 degrees. Other lenses such as the Canon 15mm and Sigma 15mm will give you 180 degrees on full-frame, but on a 40D you'll just get a hint of fishiness - the image will be very wide, and distorted, but not 180 degrees.

I don't know exactly what the Tokina 10-17mm fisheye zoom does. I believe it only fits cropped sensors, and I suspect it might be 180 degrees across the diagnonal at 10mm and not quite that at 17mm.

You'll notice that I haven't answered your question about what's a decent fisheye. There is very little choice indeed:
  • for a full circle - Sigma 4.5mm
  • for a cropped circle - Sigma 8mm or Peleng 8mm
  • for a 180-degree diagonal - Sigma 10mm or (maybe) Tokina 10-17mm
  • for a less-than-189-degree diagonal - Canon 15mm or Sigma 15mm (probably) Tokina 10-17mm
 
The range for the Tokina 10-17mm is 180° (at 10mm) to 100° (at 17mm).

Another thing about the Tokina - it is stated that you can't use filters on the front of it (or any other fisheye lens) due to the curvature of the front element, however the built in lens hood on the Tokina has a "thread" onto which 58mm filters can be screwed :)
 
Thanks guys, thats a big help!
Stewart, top man, you have explained alot of the things that i wanted to know as they were swimming around in my head.
Does anyone know where i can view images of the types of fisheye compared?

Flash, i will have a look at the Tokina 10-17

Cheers again guys
 
Does anyone know where i can view images of the types of fisheye compared?
The easiest way is to search on Flickr. Search for images with tags such as "8mm fisheye" or "Canon 15mm" or similar and you'll find lots of images, some very good indeed.
 
The easiest way is to search on Flickr. Search for images with tags such as "8mm fisheye" or "Canon 15mm" or similar and you'll find lots of images, some very good indeed.

:lol:

Didnt think of that, thanks Stewart :)
 
Hi,

A Flickr contact of mine uses the Tokina 10-17 on a Nikon D50 (still a crop sensor). This is 180 deg on the diagonal. It takes nice pics!

HTH

Mark F
 
I know a few people that use the Tokina 10-17 on 1D series bodies...
 
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