Fishermen! Don't you just love em.

Kemble3 said:
Is this just another fishermans story? Are you sure it was a huge 4x4 or just a Robin Reliant?
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:lol::lol:

Boy, has this thread gone downhill from then! :bang: It should have been cut off and thrown back! :razz:
 
SpikeK6 said:
seems from this thread where there is one good mannered law abiding fisherman there are hundreds out there that are not.
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Indeed there are. Andy700 seems to be working within the law, but there are many, many who aren't. Aside from otter, goosander and cormorant predation, there ate waterways that are being decimated by overfishing (I.e. the taking of fish). It's a national problem that goes relatively unnoticed in the eye of the general public, but has massive ramifications for ecosystems.... Stocks being in the verge if being wiped out because people feel they have a right to use waterways as a larder.

I've spent most of my working life in angling and its a sport I love dearly and one I spend a lot of money on. I want my kids to be able to sample it as they grow up, not only the 'artificial' side of it (stocked fisheries, trout ressies etc) but I want to be able to take future generations into natural waterways like rivers, safe in the knowledge there is a healthy stock of fish.

If you want to catch fish for the pot, go to a put-and-take trout fishery - they'll teach you a lot about fishing and give you dinner if you're that way inclined. Don't it on natural waters that are there for every licence payer's enjoyment.
 
MWHCVT said:
Yes that is the regulation on what you can take in LAW but it is not what you can take by RIGHT, you still have to have permission of the owner of that strech of river/canal or whatever...oh and you mentioned not having a license...on any fresh water you have to have the appropriate rod license even private water

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/recreation/fishing/31485.aspx

As I said the vast majority of rivers in this country are privately controlled like it or not that is the truth
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You seem to be dead against the idea that ordinary fishermen like myself (since 1973) can buy a rod licence for £27, and fish waters which are NOT controlled by clubs and do NOT require a day permit of any kind. Some are on private land and require the permission of the landowner to fish them.
In Kent, you have the following main rivers/canals - Medway, Stour, Rother, Military Canal, and then various smaller ones - Buelt, Tiese, Dart. Using a rod licence and good manners, I can also fish other waters, which contain large numbers of very good fish - pike to 30lbs (at least), large tench, bream, roach, rudd and perch.
I rarely fish lakes (just small ponds and the like), restricting myself to rivers and the like.
I have not fished yet this season, but if I wanted to fish on a river less than a mile from me, then I could do so without a licence and be perfectly legal. The clue to that little riddle, is that I would not be fishing for any of the species mentioned, but the resulting catch would not be out of place in a good restaurant.;)
 
andy700 said:
You seem to be dead against the idea that ordinary fishermen like myself (since 1973) can buy a rod licence for £27, and fish waters which are NOT controlled by clubs and do NOT require a day permit of any kind. Some are on private land and require the permission of the landowner to fish them.
In Kent, you have the following main rivers/canals - Medway, Stour, Rother, Military Canal, and then various smaller ones - Buelt, Tiese, Dart. Using a rod licence and good manners, I can also fish other waters, which contain large numbers of very good fish - pike to 30lbs (at least), large tench, bream, roach, rudd and perch.
I rarely fish lakes (just small ponds and the like), restricting myself to rivers and the like.
I have not fished yet this season, but if I wanted to fish on a river less than a mile from me, then I could do so without a licence and be perfectly legal. The clue to that little riddle, is that I would not be fishing for any of the species mentioned, but the resulting catch would not be out of place in a good restaurant.;)
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The key is the fact that in that post you've given more accurate information on your intentions that in all your other posts on the subject, the key being " Some are on private land and require the permission of the landowner to fish them" FYI even on public land you strictly speaking need permission from the custodian of the land be that the local authority or whoever unless there is a historic right to fish....don't play stupid games of the "clue is in etc" if you believe you've found a loop hole to allow you to fish without a licence say what it is, you never know you might just be wrong and maybe someone who might know can stop you getting a possible £5000 fine
 
MWHCVT said:
T..don't play stupid games of the "clue is in etc" if you believe you've found a loop hole to allow you to fish without a licence say what it is, you never know you might just be wrong and maybe someone who might know can stop you getting a possible £5000 fine
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the clue is fresh water ;)
 
Brendan Mulachy said:
class answer...to be fair matt your grandad was one of the most famous anglers in the country:thumbs:
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Indeed he was I'm not 1/10th the fisherman he was :(

Brendan Mulachy said:
the clue is fresh water ;)
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Indeed but there is not point playing games it's just pathetic, I'd much rather people just came out with what they want to say rather than little riddles, life far too short for that kind of behaviour :shake:
 
MWHCVT said:
Indeed he was I'm not 1/10th the fisherman he was :(



Indeed but there is not point playing games it's just pathetic, I'd much rather people just came out with what they want to say rather than little riddles, life far too short for that kind of behaviour :shake:
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To be perfectly honest, you did not have a clue until Dave gave you a hint. In future when you argue with someone, make sure that you get your facts right;)
I have never in my life fished illegally, and when I was really keen, I used to belong to clubs.
There happens to be a lot of good "free" water in Kent, its just that many people seem to think that day ticket waters will reward them more (well they will if you want 40lb carp, but I haven't the patience for that).
 
andy700 said:
To be perfectly honest, you did not have a clue until Dave gave you a hint. In future when you argue with someone, make sure that you get your facts right;)
I have never in my life fished illegally, and when I was really keen, I used to belong to clubs.
There happens to be a lot of good "free" water in Kent, its just that many people seem to think that day ticket waters will reward them more (well they will if you want 40lb carp, but I haven't the patience for that).
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Andy, I'm not going to argue the toss with you I learnt a long time ago there is no point in doing that...but if you want to drip feed information into your posts that's your prerogative, I've answered your posts with factually correct information so if you want to say I'm incorrect your welcome to but please post links to information refuting what I've posted, if your fishing is salt water for marine species then you'll not need a EA Rod Licence that is true, it is also true that the majority of salt water areas of river estuaries and coast are free and open for fishing, that however is not what you initially insinuated with your initial posts in the thread when talking of taking certain fresh water species..
 
Pieface said:
Question why they don't use the cycle path. You think people wont choose the safer option? Does it have lots of grids and potholes, or is narrow, or there are cars parked in it?

If you haven't before cycle through it and see it from a different perspective.
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maybe there is a reason, but I'm unsure why the cycle path outside my house appeared good enough for the 12 year old girl to be happily riding along, but the 30 year old bloke insisted at shouting on everyone as he rode along the pavement. Must have been the cycle path was too full of girls on bikes or something :thinking:

Anyway O/T
 
boyfalldown said:
maybe there is a reason, but I'm unsure why the cycle path outside my house appeared good enough for the 12 year old girl to be happily riding along, but the 30 year old bloke insisted at shouting on everyone as he rode along the pavement. Must have been the cycle path was too full of girls on bikes or something :thinking:

Anyway O/T
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Twickenham is in London. London cyclists are special. QED!
 
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so who runs the shop now Matt?? it says on wiki its still running?
 
SpikeK6 said:
so who runs the shop now Matt?? it says on wiki its still running?
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It's was run my my Uncle of the death of my Grandad and then when my Uncle Alan died 3/4 years ago, his children my cousins took on the running of the business so it's still in the family :)
 
Thats a few generations working in a fishing tackle shop, nice to see its still going, they must be doing something right.:thumbs:
 
SpikeK6 said:
Thats a few generations working in a fishing tackle shop, nice to see its still going, they must be doing something right.:thumbs:
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Indeed it's onto the fourth generation and still going strong :D
 
Matt - I've got a very battered copy of one of his books somewhere, must dig it out.

What Andy700 has highlighted in his posts is part of why byelaws are seen as antiquated.... I thought the taking of coarse fish was the sole preserve of nationals hailing from Eastern Europe and Asia, but I was wrong. Hopefully, Andy is in a tiny minority who see it as logical to eat fish stocks that aren't managed - add on the 2-3lb of fish that a single cormorant requires per day to survive and you can see how there is little hope for small waters with low(ish) stocks.

Maybe the relevant authorities will take a fresh look at these byelaws and bring them up to modern standards, along with the silly close season ...
 
specialman said:
Matt - I've got a very battered copy of one of his books somewhere, must dig it out.

What Andy700 has highlighted in his posts is part of why byelaws are seen as antiquated.... I thought the taking of coarse fish was the sole preserve of nationals hailing from Eastern Europe and Asia, but I was wrong. Hopefully, Andy is in a tiny minority who see it as logical to eat fish stocks that aren't managed - add on the 2-3lb of fish that a single cormorant requires per day to survive and you can see how there is little hope for small waters with low(ish) stocks.

Maybe the relevant authorities will take a fresh look at these byelaws and bring them up to modern standards, along with the silly close season ...
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Sad to say I don't think we have all of his books, I do intend on owning a full collection...the really sad thing to say is we don't have a single signed copy now that's family for you :suspect:
 
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