First RAW file I have decided to keep.

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Been out this morning in the snow, with the dog and the camera. Got a few photos and video clips of the dog. One photo in particular that I like, is of the dog. It is pretty clear and her face seems well defined, and her eyes do look really good. I don't normally keep the RAW files once I convert them. But in this instance, I have decided to keep this particular file, as I may want to come back to it in the future, and do another conversion of it.

So I have made a folder, and I will keep any worthy RAW files in it.
 
jonbeeza said:
I have made a folder, and I will keep any worthy RAW files in it.
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This may serve you well if you shoot or keep few RAWs. For
me, that would be most impractical since everything I shoot
is in RAW format.
 
jonbeeza said:
Been out this morning in the snow, with the dog and the camera. Got a few photos and video clips of the dog. One photo in particular that I like, is of the dog. It is pretty clear and her face seems well defined, and her eyes do look really good. I don't normally keep the RAW files once I convert them. But in this instance, I have decided to keep this particular file, as I may want to come back to it in the future, and do another conversion of it.

So I have made a folder, and I will keep any worthy RAW files in it.
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Now, that's odd - I keep all my RAW files and have folder(s) where I decide to place my keeper JPGs.

Good on you getting out in this horrid stuff.
 
I don't normally keep the RAW files, I delete them once I have made a Jpeg. Photos are for my own personal enjoyment.
Ready for wise cracks, and other snide remarks. :)
 
jonbeeza said:
I don't normally keep the RAW files, I delete them once I have made a Jpeg.
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If your happy wiht the jpg I wouldnt see any point in keeping the RAW .. then you find one like you posted and want to keep just in case so you do.. sounds likr a plan to me....

I find it odd that soemone would comment saying its odd what you do.. when i can say its odd what they do.. everyones way is odd if others dont do it:)
 
Am I the only one coming here expecting to see a pic of a dog in the snow?

I am sad.
 
jonbeeza said:
I don't normally keep the RAW files, I delete them once I have made a Jpeg. Photos are for my own personal enjoyment.
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Each user has his own way and reasons behind it.
Sure, if this strategy works for you… just fine but
it would be a nightmare for me.

The direct benefit of your choice is the need for way
less storage! :cool:
 
Harlequin565 said:
Am I the only one coming here expecting to see a pic of a dog in the snow?

I am sad.
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Why would you be expecting that? It was not in the thread title! ;)

Certain photos I will not post on the net. The photo was taken on a passage, near my back door. I am not going to stick that on the net. ;)
 
jonbeeza said:
Why would you be expecting that? It was not in the thread title!
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It was in the pop out summary bit. I only read the first few words and I was like "dog" and "snow" and so I clicked.

An anonymised photo of your dog would be good though. But not your ba... the pa... ..house.

(Apologies for complete thread derailment)
 
UUmmm not only do I keep all my RAW files but I back up all my RAW files (twice) and any associated files like LR catalogs. I do occasionally have a cull and a tidy up.
 
69Bonni said:
UUmmm not only do I keep all my RAW files but I back up all my RAW files (twice) and any associated files like LR catalogs. I do occasionally have a cull and a tidy up.
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I have been shooting with Raw files for about 14 years now and I have never once gone back to a Raw file to do a new conversion. I do keep my Raw files as it happens but if I never had, there would be no loss for me.
 
Back passages are NSFW, I’d imagine.
 
I keep all my raw files, but if someone gave me a dog for Christmas it would be off to Battersea on January the 2nd.
 
This thread is about keeping RAW files, not about keeping dogs. I have been on this forum a good few years, and I know it does have some weird members. I am probably just as weird as the rest of you, that is probably why I stick around. :)
 
For the last 8 years I have ONLY shot raw.
I keep all my raw files, except for the bad shots.
On many occasions I have re-processed a raw file for a new/different result.
 
I generally only ever keep raws and just output jpegs from Lightroom as and when I need them and delete them when I'm done. Slightly different now I'm shooting Fuji as I often like the SOOC jpegs so keep some of them as well and delete the raw.
 
Brian G said:
For the last 8 years I have ONLY shot raw.
I keep all my raw files, except for the bad shots.
On many occasions I have re-processed a raw file for a new/different result.
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I have seen some of my older photos that I converted. I now see I could have made a better job of it, but I don't have the original RAW. So that is why I am going to start saving some RAW files, or at least the ones I think are special to me..
 
gad-westy said:
I generally only ever keep raws and just output jpegs from Lightroom as and when I need them and delete them when I'm done. Slightly different now I'm shooting Fuji as I often like the SOOC jpegs so keep some of them as well and delete the raw.
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My Nikon DSLR when set to Neutral, does produce good SOOC Jpegs. But I find my little old fuji SOOC Jpegs, can be a little hit and miss.
 
I read through the whole thread hoping for a neat solution to keeping and organising RAWs and JPEGS but it seems not, at least so far. I shoot RAW and there are a number of shots that I have reprocessed, in some cases more than once for various reasons but there are also an awful lot which are more family snaps, etc. which I really will never reprocess so a tidy little workflow for handling these would be good (LR based for now but not tied to LR in case I stop paying Adobe tax)
 
sirch said:
I read through the whole thread hoping for a neat solution to keeping and organising RAWs and JPEGS but it seems not, at least so far. I shoot RAW and there are a number of shots that I have reprocessed, in some cases more than once for various reasons but there are also an awful lot which are more family snaps, etc. which I really will never reprocess so a tidy little workflow for handling these would be good (LR based for now but not tied to LR in case I stop paying Adobe tax)
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This is where I think Lightroom excels. If you shoot everything in raw, you do your edits and then just leave them. If you want more than one version, create a virtual copy and edit it. Still only one raw file to store. No need to create any jpegs until you need them for something. Works well until you need to edit in photoshop or something else.
 
I only have the basic raw converters, that came with the cameras. I would like to invest in a good software, at some point. Just my money always seems to be spoken up for.
 
gad-westy said:
This is where I think Lightroom excels. If you shoot everything in raw, you do your edits and then just leave them. If you want more than one version, create a virtual copy and edit it. Still only one raw file to store. No need to create any jpegs until you need them for something. Works well until you need to edit in photoshop or something else.
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Yeah, that's what I do but I could save a lot of disk space and backup space and time backing up by getting rid of the RAWs which I know I will never edit again. But I would like to keep the tags and be sure I've got the JPEG backed up before deleteing the raw.
 
andrewc said:
I keep all the RAW files unless its obviously out of focus. I've reworked several photos after learning new techniques or trying different feels which I couldn't have done to the same level if I'd binned the RAW files.
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I have a few photos that I have been looking at again, and the WB and other corrections look off. But I no longer have the RAW file, to rework it.
 
jonbeeza said:
But I no longer have the RAW file, to rework it.
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If you have Photo shop you can open Jpegs in ACR and process them in exactly the same way :thumbs:
/ controversial /
 
Cobra said:
If you have Photo shop you can open Jpegs in ACR and process them in exactly the same way (y)
/ controversial /
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I always thought processing Jpegs, always degrades them. Besides, I don't have photo shop. Only have SILKYPIX and Nikon Capture NX-D.
 
Retune said:
I keep all my raw files, but if someone gave me a dog for Christmas it would be off to Battersea on January the 2nd.
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Unfortunately Battersea dogs home is full of unwanted dogs, many of whom end up their because their owners didn't think through owning a dog or they bought the wrong dog, I'm glad you wont be adding to the numbers 'cos it sounds as though you'll never buy/steal/own a dog.
Shame more people weren't like you, dogs would benefit in the long term.
Owning a dog is a privelige not a right!
 
jonbeeza said:
I always thought processing Jpegs, always degrades them.
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Every time you open a jpeg ( in a editing programme) it apparently degrades them, a little more. tbh I've never noticed.

jonbeeza said:
I don't have photo shop.
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Oh well it was a good idea while it lasted :D

My "argument" always has been, if the whites are "blown" no amount of processing will pull them back, be that RAW Jpeg or any other format.
Same applies to "Over saturated" Blacks.

When staring out I used to shoot Jpeg, then I went raw, on the advice of a few on the forum.
I now shoot Jpeg. again. because
1) My version of PS doesn't support raw from my current camera
2) I never noticed any difference in quality.

Other people of course will argue the latter is crap ;)
 
Cobra said:
Every time you open a jpeg ( in a editing programme) it apparently degrades them, a little more. tbh I've never noticed.


Oh well it was a good idea while it lasted :D

My "argument" always has been, if the whites are "blown" no amount of processing will pull them back, be that RAW Jpeg or any other format.
Same applies to "Over saturated" Blacks.

When staring out I used to shoot Jpeg, then I went raw, on the advice of a few on the forum.
I now shoot Jpeg. again. because
1) My version of PS doesn't support raw from my current camera
2) I never noticed any difference in quality.

Other people of course will argue the latter is crap ;)
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I do run into problems shooting Jpeg, when photographing the missus or the cat and the dog. The missus is light blonde and very fair skinned. When I photograph the missus, her skin and hair tends to get blown out. So I have to under expose, and then bring up the shadows etc. That way I seem to get a good all round exposure, without the missus getting over exposed. Same with our cat, it is black and white and is tricky to photograph. The whites always get over exposed. The dog is also very hard to photograph, as she has a brindle body, and a jet black face. I have to work on the RAW files of our dog, just to bring her face out.
 
Cobra said:
Every time you open a jpeg ( in a editing programme) it apparently degrades them, a little more. tbh I've never noticed.


Oh well it was a good idea while it lasted :D
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Opening a jpeg file has no effect on it, nor does closing it. When you save a jpeg, there is a very small amount of degradation (how much depends on your quality setting). If you keep quality at maximum, it takes several open/save cycles to produce anything that even a fussy person can see. One editing session will not produce anything you can see.
 
jonbeeza said:
The dog is also very hard to photograph, as she has a brindle body, and a jet black face. I have to work on the RAW files of our dog, just to bring her face out.
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jonbeeza said:
So I have to under expose, and then bring up the shadows etc.
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And the converse will apply to the dog :)
I'm not one of those that preaches "Get it right in camera" and you won't need to process anything, as far as I'm concerned PS is the next best tool I have to my camera.
However a tweak of +/- exposure is really helpful in the situations you outline.

john.margetts said:
When you save a jpeg, there is a very small amount of degradation
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My bad, of course I should have said "save" not "open" thanks for the correction :thumbs:

john.margetts said:
it takes several open/save cycles to produce anything that even a fussy person can see.
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My point exactly :thumbs:
 
Cobra said:
If you have Photo shop you can open Jpegs in ACR and process them in exactly the same way (y)
/ controversial /
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But never achieve the results you could have done from the RAW... and working/saving a jpg will provide a degrading path from the original.
 
chuckles said:
But never achieve the results you could have done from the RAW...
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I've done a comparison in the past, and to my mind there is absolutely no difference.
If the detail is there, its there. If its not then no amount of slapping it around will make the slightest bit of difference ..
(And I did use the word controversial before :D )
 
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