Fat head Allardyce, could your head get any fatter?

I think he's trying to say (tongue in cheek) that Managing a club like Blackburn is difficult and that not all managers have the same means at their disposal.

"It wouldn't be a problem for me to manage those clubs because I would win the double or the league every time."

Although happy in his current role, Allardyce added: "Give me Manchester United or Chelsea and I would do the same, it wouldn't be a problem"
 
well theres a eureka moment, chances of winning title is higher with a club that has more money and better players, give that man a medal.
:lol:
 
I would love to see how the likes of Capello gets on managing clubs like Bolton and Blackburn.
 
cambsno said:
I would love to see how the likes of Capello gets on managing clubs like Bolton and Blackburn.
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Plenty of top flight managers start their careers with clubs like bolton and blackburn, thats nothing new - the reason alardyce is STILL managing clubs like blackburn is because he is a chump.
 
joescrivens said:
Plenty of top flight managers start their careers with clubs like bolton and blackburn, thats nothing new - the reason alardyce is STILL managing clubs like blackburn is because he is a chump.
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No, because none are given a chance. Surely you respect Sam for what he did at Bolton. Took a club who had done next to nothing for some 50 years, and took them to 5th in a strong league, gave them Euro football and look what happened when he left, they almost collapsed! You cannot argue that what he achieved there was down to him, even if the football was at times, not the prettiest!

Then you look at Villa... Houllier!!!! Why not give an English manager a chance? Sam, Steve Bruce, Curbishley, Southgate as an idea? Hodgson got the Liverpool job after a good spell at Fulham, but why do teams never look at English managers? How many top managers could have got Blackpool up to the Prem?
 
If Allardyce was any good, he wouldn't have to manage the likes of Blackburn.

When was the last time a big club came knocking at his door?
 
cambsno said:
No, because none are given a chance. Surely you respect Sam for what he did at Bolton. Took a club who had done next to nothing for some 50 years, and took them to 5th in a strong league, gave them Euro football and look what happened when he left, they almost collapsed! You cannot argue that what he achieved there was down to him, even if the football was at times, not the prettiest!
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Firstly if you are talking about Bolton then it was 6th not 5th.

Secondly you are also wrong at none being given a chance. The last I checked Roy hodgson is now managing Liverpool after a career where he managed Blackburn and fulham to name but a few. The difference being that he is recognised as an inspirational manager and that's why he is now managing a top flight team
 
joescrivens said:
Firstly if you are talking about Bolton then it was 6th not 5th.

Secondly you are also wrong at none being given a chance. The last I checked Roy hodgson is now managing Liverpool after a career where he managed Blackburn and fulham to name but a few. The difference being that he is recognised as an inspirational manager and that's why he is now managing a top flight team
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A top flight team that has accrued 5 points from 5 games.
 
joescrivens said:
irrelevent point to the discussion at hand.
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Fail to see how. You slate Big Sam yet he is managing a team currently sat above a team who's manager you are singing the praises of, with an equal number of points.
 
wisemen said:
Fail to see how. You slate Big Sam yet he is managing a team currently sat above a team who's manager you are singing the praises of, with an equal number of points.
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because the topic shifted to cambsno saying that no manager who has managed standard teams has ever been considered for a top flight team and i explained is was incorrect and gave the example of hodgson - how he then performs is irrelevant to that discussion he has still been selected for said team.
 
Sorry about that, I'll quote again,

'an inspirational manager'

Wouldn't appear to be any more inspirational than Sam, looking at current stats,
 
joescrivens said:
no manager who has managed standard teams has ever been considered for a top flight team and i explained is was incorrect and gave the example of hodgson
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Yep - he managed Inter ;)
 
wisemen said:
Sorry about that, I'll quote again,

'an inspirational manager'

Wouldn't appear to be any more inspirational than Sam, looking at current stats,
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surely you aren't naive enough to compare stats from the season so early on, also surely you know a bit more about football to realise the absolute mess that liverpool are in right ow and their form is just dipping constantly due to a plethera of factors.

And anyway this is still an irrelevant point to what cambsno is saying that no manager managing such a team like blackburn is ever given a chance to manager top flight teams -it happens and hodgson is an example of it.
 
He was awful at Newcastle. It wasn't a matter of not being given any time, he was simply terrible.
 
Adam, he did better than the next guy!!

Joe, sure, Hodgson has got a top job, and even though Spurs were bottom, they are a big club who gave it to Redknapp, but few managers are given the chance at the lower prem level, let alone decent clubs.

WBA appointed DiMatteo, Hammers - Grant, Villa - Houllier, Wigan - Martinez (I think)... so if they dont employ English managers, then what hope is there of going to a big club. In any case, Liverpool are not even a top 6 club looking at the squad and finances!

Firstly if you are talking about Bolton then it was 6th not 5th.
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Ok, well 6th was a great achievement for a club like Bolton who are now normally candidates for relegation, look how the team fell apart after he left? He did now worse than any manager since Robson at Newcastle and my mate who is a Toon fan is adamant they would not have gone done if he had stayed.

Nothing against Ancelotti, but doing what Sam did at Bolton is for me, a bigger achievement than winning the league with Chelsea last year.
 
cambsno said:
Adam, he did better than the next guy!!

Joe, sure, Hodgson has got a top job, and even though Spurs were bottom, they are a big club who gave it to Redknapp, but few managers are given the chance at the lower prem level, let alone decent clubs.

WBA appointed DiMatteo, Hammers - Grant, Villa - Houllier, Wigan - Martinez (I think)... so if they dont employ English managers, then what hope is there of going to a big club. In any case, Liverpool are not even a top 6 club looking at the squad and finances!
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I'm pretty sure the club just appoints whoever is the best candidate at that time, and I would imagine they ignore the nationality of that candidate - much like they should in any job.

If there was an english manager applying for the job and they were better than another and they fit the salary appointment then they'll get the job.
 
If any of the so called Big clubs gave the likes of Sam a chance then we might then see how good or bad they are.

Anyhow he's a good Black Country lad so Real Madrid would be no trouble for him he'd have em on a diet of Faggots & Peas
 
all this talk about sam allardyce made me have a horrible dream about him last night. I dreamt he was a baby snatcher and he came and took my daughter away!

Weird
 
wisemen said:
Fail to see how. You slate Big Sam yet he is managing a team currently sat above a team who's manager you are singing the praises of, with an equal number of points.
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And Sam has not lost a cup tie at home to a team 8th from bottom in league 2 :)
 
cambsno said:
And Sam has not lost a cup tie at home to a team 8th from bottom in league 2 :)
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I found his team selection quite naive for that match, thats what happens when you put 11 players who never play together competitively against 11 who do - but even so - they still should have been strong enough to beat them - but thats the magic of cup competitions - you get major upsets like this, you would have got pretty good odds on newcastle beating chelsea and everton going out to brentford as well, and scunthorpe scoring 2 goals against utd!! I think given liverpools terrible form right now the odds on them going out might have been more favorable!

The great thing about hodgson is though that at least he admits he made the mistake of picking the wrong team. You would never have seen benitez doing that.

Still this is pretty irrelevant to the topic thread about Allardyce being deluded about the fact he should be managing real madrid
 
Cant stand the Bloke, if everyone played the Big Sam style of football, I'm off shopping with the wife on Saturdays.
 
The big fat check that Sam had with Bolton may of helped.
 
joescrivens said:
Plenty of top flight managers start their careers with clubs like bolton and blackburn, thats nothing new - the reason alardyce is STILL managing clubs like blackburn is because he is a chump.
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He maybe a chump, but he still manages a Premiership club and is on a premiership managers wages !!

Chump...... maybe Rich Chump - definately !!
 
Another win for Allardyce's lot today, whilst Hodgson could only guide his boys to a draw at home.
 
Cambsno and wiseman, I'm begining to think you are actually Sam Allardyce in disguise - perhaps all this comparison of allardyce against hodgson deserves a thread where you can compare them? Because you're posts are becoming very irrelevant to this thread. This isn't a hodgson allardyce comparison - it's about how deluded allardyce is to think he should be managing real madrid

appreciate if you could stick to the topic :thumbs:
 
joescrivens said:
Cambsno and wiseman, I'm begining to think you are actually Sam Allardyce in disguise - perhaps all this comparison of allardyce against hodgson deserves a thread where you can compare them? Because you're posts are becoming very irrelevant to this thread. This isn't a hodgson allardyce comparison - it's about how deluded allardyce is to think he should be managing real madrid

appreciate if you could stick to the topic :thumbs:
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The first mention of Hodgson was by you. The thread began with you saying Allardyce is hopeless, then in post 9 you said what an inspirational manager Hodgson is.
 
wisemen said:
The first mention of Hodgson was by you. The thread began with you saying Allardyce is hopeless, then in post 9 you said what an inspirational manager Hodgson is.
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i was proving a point wrong that cambsno made that no manager of standard team would ever be given a chance in the top flight. hodgson is an example, how well he does is irrelevent. the point is he managed standard teams and now was given an opportunity. so cambsno was wrong.

thats why hodgson was mentioned. make sense?
 
wisemen said:
Another win for Allardyce's lot today, whilst Hodgson could only guide his boys to a draw at home.
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You know looking at the weekend now, Hodgson drew, Ferguson drew, Ancelotti lost, Redknapp lost .... but allardyce won.

I guess thats evidence that allardyce is a better manager than all of the above eh. I think Im conceding to have been proved wrong :D
 
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