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Flying out to Crete on Tuesday with the good lady and our 6yo. Restricted by weight allowance so only planning on taking my D90 with kit lens and grip. Hoping to have some good snaps so I can get an album produced one we are back.

Rather than sticking the camera on auto for all my shots do you guys have any tips you can share? I imagine most shots will be beside the pool, beach etc!

Thanks in advance.

Regards

David
 
If you are short on space why you taking a grip? Surely another lens is better use of the space.
 
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Remember the weight limit is for your baggage , get a poacher coat (lot of pockets) and put the kit lens in one, the grip in another pocket and so on :)
 
rjbell said:
If you are short on space why you taking a grip? Surely another lens is better use of the space.

Should have mentioned my only other lens is a 70-300mm f/ 4.5-5.6. Figured my 18-105mm kit lens would be a better choice for pool shots?!
 
acetone said:
Remember the weight limit is for your baggage , get a poacher coat (lot of pockets) and put the kit lens in one, the grip in another pocket and so on :)

28 degrees in Crete..hoping not to be wearing a coat for 2 weeks :-)
 
Dump some clothes I never use all I take and take your tripod sunsets sunrises :thumbs:

Thats one Island Ive never been to, we normally hire and car or 4 wheel drive, do a lot of searching on google and Tripadvisor for places of interest
 
Who are you flying with and whats your allowance, if you have hold luggage even at 15KG youll get your tripod it, or are you just taking hand luggage in that case leave the grip and get a gorilla pod or the like for Sun/sets/rises
 
Just Dave said:
Who are you flying with and whats your allowance, if you have hold luggage even at 15KG youll get your tripod it, or are you just taking hand luggage in that case leave the grip and get a gorilla pod or the like for Sun/sets/rises

15kg hold luggage with Thomsons. Planning on taking my camera on as hand luggage as I've seen the way some baggage handlers treat your hold luggage!!

I was kinda looking for tips on camera settings etc rather than the logistics of getting everything through security tbh. Thanks for the help though.

Anyone help with camera settings?
 
I'd advise you take both of your lenses, carrying your kit in your hand luggage.

I'd also recommend a circular polariser (I took one on my holiday to Greece earlier this year) and it made all the difference to the pool, beach and the shots taken around the market. Much better colours, that I'm not sure I could recreate in Photoshop.

If you don't have a polariser, I found that I took most of my 'happy snap' shots near the middle of the day, not the ideal time so I'd suggest shooting in Raw so you can adjust any over exposed shots when you get home.

Rather than take a tripod, you could take an old sock, or small empty bag. You then stuff these with other socks or sand, to use as a beanbag/camera rest for any landscape shots.

Hope you have fun.

Nick

The image below, is straight out of camera, where I was using my polarising filter. Notice the colours in the sea, and the distant mountain (Mt Olympus, I think) on the horizon is visible, I don't think I would have been able to recover these in Photoshop.

polarised.jpg
 
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I wouldn't get 'too' technical for a family holiday.

Shoot jpegs, use aperture priority (AV) for portraits (wide aperture / small number) and also for landscapes (narrow aperture / large number)

If taking 'action' shots of kids jumping in pool or birds in flight etc, use shutter priority (TV) and use a very fast shutter speed, like 1000/1

Don't forget your ISO settings. Feel free to use auto, or try and stick with between 100-500 and you should be ok. (100 for portraits and landscapes, 500 for action)

All setting are 'ish' settings if you get my meaning?!
 
Thanks Nick and Elph.. Very helpful and plenty of info to go on there.

Cheers

David
 
28 degrees in Crete..hoping not to be wearing a coat for 2 weeks :-)

We spend a fortnight in Crete (split between Chania and Agia Galini) every June, when daytime temperatures sometimes nudge at 40°C, I always take a fleece with me, firstly, so I have some big, soft pockets to take a couple of lenses to get under the meagre hand baggage allowance (they get put straight back in the bag after the weigh in!) and, more importantly, becaus e our return flight usually arrives back in the UK (Bristol) at around midnight and after a fortnight of Mediterranean sun, it's bleedin' cold and often wet!

Not sure where you're staying while over there, so can't advise on good eateries in that location. If in Chania though, in the old town, Ela, Amphora and Karnagio are our favourites. A few kilometres out of town is Merovigli in (IIRC, Stalos) which is our all time favourite.

Leave the grip behind! IMO, they're a PITA anyway and it will eat into your baggage allowance weight. Lenswise? Most of my shots there are taken with my 24-70 f/2.8 (rarely wide open - there's plenty of light over there) or my 12-24 Sigma. I'll sometimes use the 8mm fisheye but have almost exhausted its potential now and occasionally use the 70-300 VR to pick out detail at a distance. The 50mm f/1.8 gets used when appropriate (low light and when the framing is just right with it) and the Macro comes out when needed.

We always rent a car since we travel a fair bit to places we want to (re)visit but the local driving is... shall I say just a little erratic and leave it at that, so can be a bit intimmidating! Public transport is generally good, best to buy bus tickets from kiosks rather than on the bus - on the bus, you basically pay a fine for not having a ticket! Still not as extortionate as Stagecoach's normal fares but more expensive than prepaid tickets.

Now, places to visit! Starting from the west coast and working east.
Elafonisi beach - an island to which you can generally walk along a sand spit. Once all the tourists have gone (when the busses and coaches leave), it's lovely and quiet. Worth the walk along the sandy south side until you find a relatively deserted part to set up camp.

Further up the west coast is Falasarna, another beach, this time just a long, sandy one, with a hill strewn with potsherds at the northern end, where there's a Roman harbour about a metre above sea level. Worth setting up camp near one of the cafés/cantinas on the beach - they have loos!

We've never done it but there are boat trips to the tips of the 2 long penninsulas near the NW corner - friends have done the trip and say it's worth it.

Cruising back along the coastal road (the main road is faster but boring and soulless!), you'll pass loads of beaches, any of which will provide swimming and snorkelling opps.

Chania town! Firstly, you shouln't miss the market (covered) in the city centre. About 100 years old and crucifix shaped. One of the cheapest places we've found on the island to buy olive oil soap - look around to find the cheapest prices - the product is all good quality. IIRC, the arm that points north is where the cheapest is. The old town is well worth a wander around, mainly Venetian with some German modifications made using bombs in around 1941... Don't miss Skridloff or Leather street as it's also known. A bit touristy but some good leather flipflop type shoes and even traditional Cretan boots, as well as tacky tourist tat!

Next area along the north coast is the Akrotiri penninsula, particularly nice are Stavros (where Zorba the Greek's exterior shots were shot), an excellent sandy beach, ideal for kids and adults alike - the caravan Kantina on the beach serves good food and will bring it to you on the sunbeds nearest to it, which they take the money for, Ayia Triada (a monastery where they make delicious EV Olive oil) and Marathi, another harbour/beach, often overrun by American service personell but hasn't been the past couple of years we've visited the place.

Back on the mainland and heading east again. Kalives is probably worth a stop if you need a drink or unload one! Next stop would be Georgiopolis, probably the only place we'vce felt ripped off in 12 or more years of visiting the island - we were charged for a Greek coffee which was made using normal coffee grounds rather than proper fine ground Greek coffee. Not the end of the world but not what we had ordered and paid for. Pretty little church on the end of a causeway among other attractions. Just inland from Georiopolis is Lake Kournas, a freswater lake where you can hire pedalloes and see wild terrapins (if you creep up on them quietly - possibly difficult with a 6yo!). The taverna a little way away (north) from the main conurbation(!) is the best of them, we've found.

Next major stop is Rethymnon, a fair sized town with all the usual ammenities and a ruined castle to explore. Harbour's quite pretty and full of decent eateries.

Along the coast a way is Bali. a very pretty place, now a bit spoiled by over development but not too bad in early or late season. Eat upstairs in the fishier restaurant and watch the world go by!

Now, you're getting close to Heraklion, possibly where you flew into. Well, the Knossos museum is quite interesting, as is the site itself, a few miles inland from Heraklion.

Not as familiar with points east, so will only speak of what we know. Anissaras and Annalipsi are both quite pretty and relatively unspoiled, as is OLD Hersonissos (New Hersonissos is horrible - full of Brits on the XXXX). The same cannot be said for Malia which should be nuked on a regular basis to destroy the type of person that choses it for their holidays! If you want to spend a fortnight getting hot and plastered, turn your central heating on and go to the offie!

Still heading east, you'll find Elounda, a lovely, quiet place, with the island of Spinalonga just offshore. It used to be a leper colony (the last in Europe) but is now a point of interest.

Agia Nicolaos is next - full of ex-pats so we've never bothered looking too closely at it. Probably unfair, if I'm honest (which I always try to be), it looks quite pretty from other people's photos but I don't go to Crete to hear a Brummie accent moaning about the price of a sliced white loaf! Having said that, the Minoan palace just east of the centre is well worth a look - just avoid the town centre during drunkards' waking hours.

Right on the East coast is Vai beach, with its coconut trees and sandy beach. Get there early though or you'll not find anywhere to sit and it gets horrid when crowded!

Inland a bit from the North coast, heading back westwards. The Lasithi Plateau, including the Diktean Cave is interesting. The plateau itself is full of fields and could be described as the market garden of Crete, although in recent years, more and more greenhouses have sprung up, full of tomatoes, cucumbers and even bananas.

Carry on west and you'll see plenty of signs to ancient sites, many of which are worth a visit but many are just barren hillsides with a few piles of rocks. Many are (or were) free but more and more are charging for visits.

We stay in a small town/large village on the south coast called Ayia Galini. Very pretty, loads of available accomodation and eateries. Our favourite is at the campsite, just back from the beach on the eastern outskirts of the village, turn left up the path just after the bridge and turn right where he track seems to end. after a while, turn left into the camp site and ask where the shop and taverna are! Don't think we've had a bad meal at any of the restaurants in the town (or, indeed, anywhere on the island). Our favourite bar is the So Far So Good on the beach. Excellent Mojitos and piratical looking owners! Plenty to do locally - palaces, market towns, Roman cliff tombs (Matala). Ask George or Babis at the bar!

We've also stayed in Chora Sfakion, the little port where the boats drop the happy hikers who have completed the Samaria Gorge walk off. If you stay there, take a room that overlooks the ferry slipway and watch the poor beggars stagger off!

Aghia Roumelli is at the bottom of the Samaria gorge and can only be reached by the ferry or by walking down the gorge. A good but hard walk - there's a vertical drop of almost a mile in the first couple of miles of walking! Around 12 miles in total, all of it on what feels like railway ballast. Never stayed there but I can imagine it's beautiful at night and almost deserted.

Sougia is less pretty - nicknamed the bay of pigs due to the high numbers of German naturists who visit it. Can be used as a base to descend a couple of lesser known gorges.

Paleochora is next - pretty town with a sandy beach and a stony one. Plenty of good eateries, many serving excellent (but not cheap) fish, straight off the boats.

Too many other places all over the island to remember and I'm sure to have missed out some peoples' favourites - sorry!

Hope you have a wonderful time, we always do.

Nod.
 
i have one little tip for you, just a simple one. but for me it makes the biggest difference.
just enjoy it!
simply that, just stick it on auto, check the photos every so often on the back, if you find the lighting conditions are making it over or underexposed just use a little +/- compensation. you will soon learn your camera well. while having a great time with the family.
 
Oops! Didn't offer any advice re camera settings! Use whatever mode you're most comfortable with. Personally, I almost always use P mode, often dialling in some shift to get the shutter speed or aperture I want/need. On all the Nikons I've owned and used, the metering has been spot on, so I know I can trust it. Maybe chimp every once in a while if there are tricky lighting conditions and possibly dial in a stop or so exposure compensation one way or t'other.

Unless you really enjoy sitting in front of a monitor faffing about with raw files, stick to large, fine JPEGs - plenty good enough for big (up to A3) prints and few print larger than that!

Hmmmm.... I can smell the island now!
 
Hi Nod

Just found your reply. We got back a couple of days ago and now I'm sitting in a Glasgow A&E with the missus who has picked up a bug from our trip.

Thanks for the informative reply... Sadly just picking it up now. We stayed in Bali and sampled the fine food that restaurant you mentioned offered! It was called the Panorama I think.

Thanks for al the replies chaps. I have taken quite a few pics and once things settle down I will post some up here. I've taken all pics on Aperture priority and in RAW so will probably be looking for some basic post processing tips shortly.

Many thanks

David
 
Sounds like the one! We often stop off there when we're travelling between Heraklion and Chania.

PP tips? Avoid it as much as possible! Trust the meter and shoot Large, Fine JPEGs! Raw hads its place and IMO, holiday photos aren't it, unless you really enjoy PP and know what you're doing.

Sorry to hear your Mrs picked up a bug - I can honestly say that in 12 or 13 years, the only trouble we've had was my wife's self inflicted hangover! A result of Ouzo, followed by wine, followed by Raki and Metaxa. Can't wait until next June to get back - this year's trip was a bit of a washout due to my illness - all sorted now and I'm looking forward to next year immensely!
 
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