Expired Ilford Delta - Compensate in Dev?

[Threeracers]

I have been given a couple of rolls of Delta 100 in 120 which expired November 2005. Is that way past it? I have no idea how it was stored.

They came with the camera and I think the idea was to practice loading the back but if I did use it for fun should I compensate when developing?

TIA

Mark

 

[Asha]

7 years OOD....I reckon you will probably be fine shooting at box speed then deving at normal temp/time.

General use of thumb is to allow approx 1 stop for each decade OOD ( ie shoot a 100 iso film as if it was 50 iso) so perhaps compensate say a half or two thirds of a stop if you feel it necessary.

Easier to shoot OOD film slower and dev as normal than shoot at box and calculate new deving times.

 

[freecom2]

Slow B&W film is quite hardy, and often gives perfectly fine results many years out of date. I'd shoot a roll metering with ISO80 to 100 and see how they turn out. They might benefit from overexposing at ISO50, but you can judge that after the first roll.

With the aid of countless YouTube tutorials covering the subject, loading film into an A12 Hasselblad back isn't too much of a problem.

 

[Steve]

I have been given a couple of rolls of Delta 100 in 120 which expired November 2005. Is that way past it? I have no idea how it was stored.

They came with the camera and I think the idea was to practice loading the back but if I did use it for fun should I compensate when developing?

TIA

Mark

I take it the Hassy has arrived Mark

Hope it is good as I imagine.

Looking forward to seeing some results from it.

 

[Threeracers]

Many thanks, will use the old film as normal today.

It arrived Steve and it's lurvely!

Although loading the back was a doddle, loading the Paterson spool with 120 was a struggle and it kept coming off the reel. I pulled it apart and started again a couple of times and I nearly gave up at one point! However I persevered and after an hour long wrestling match, during which I added a lot of scratches to the film, it went on.

I don’t have a meter (and was too impatient to wait to get one) so my exposures were guessed and most were a little under. This one shows just how much abuse that poor film got during loading onto the reel;

Mark

 

[trevorbray]

Many thanks, will use the old film as normal today.

It arrived Steve and it's lurvely!

Although loading the back was a doddle, loading the Paterson spool with 120 was a struggle and it kept coming off the reel. I pulled it apart and started again a couple of times and I nearly gave up at one point! However I persevered and after an hour long wrestling match, during which I added a lot of scratches to the film, it went on.

I don’t have a meter (and was too impatient to wait to get one) so my exposures were guessed and most were a little under. This one shows just how much abuse that poor film got during loading onto the reel;

Mark

Yeah, but what a cracking job on the focusing. Great model !

 

[donut]

are you sure they are scratches Mark ????

 

[menthel]

Lubricate the bearing in the reel with a little graphite from a pencil. It should keep things moving nicely. Ilford films are usually good to load because they have a fairly thick base material that is relatively curl free.

 

[freecom2]

Although loading the back was a doddle, loading the Paterson spool with 120 was a struggle and it kept coming off the reel. I pulled it apart and started again a couple of times and I nearly gave up at one point! However I persevered and after an hour long wrestling match, during which I added a lot of scratches to the film, it went on.

Buy one of these, seriously. The money in the swear jar from using a Paterson reel will easily pay for several of these:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310589793107

They have two wide flanges, which makes the film much easier to load on the reel. My other tip, cut two small 45 degree cuts on the leading edge - so it looks slightly like an arrow. The film should load better with that, try it.

 

[Threeracers]

Thanks Freecom, ordered a couple but until they turn up I will use Jim's pencil idea to ease the Paterson reels. I have shot another roll this morning (yeah, kid with a new toy....) so I will have round two in the development bag this afternoon.

Mark

 

[freecom2]

I know it doesn't feel like it, but Jim is right - Ilford film is actually relatively easy to get on the reel. Now, Fomapan on the other hand... :bang::bang::bang:

 

[Steve]

Looks great Mark.

What kind of focusing screen does it have?

I looked at a 500CM in a shop the other day but struggled focusing. The guy said it had the old focusing screen type in it, and that it was easy to replace it with a newer bright screen.

 

[Threeracers]

Easy to change and this little youtube vid describes it far better than I can here.

Mine is a nice bright split screen with a grid on it (that constantly reminds me that I am wonky....)

Mark

 

[35millimetre]

I know it doesn't feel like it, but Jim is right - Ilford film is actually relatively easy to get on the reel. Now, Fomapan on the other hand... :bang::bang::bang:

My first home-devved roll was Fomapan. Now I scowl at the remaining rolls every time I look in the camera bag.

 

[freecom2]

My first home-devved roll was Fomapan. Now I scowl at the remaining rolls every time I look in the camera bag.

I maintain - if you can spool Fomapan, you can put anything on a developing reel.

 

[robhooley167]

I maintain - if you can spool Fomapan, you can put anything on a developing reel.

Except maybe 1960's Kodak Verichrome Pan, made Fomapan look as flat as an ironing board...

 

[Asha]

I maintain - if you can spool Fomapan, you can put anything on a developing reel.

I'm sorted then!

Tbh I've had no more difficulty with Fomapan than with any other brands.

 

[freecom2]

Tbh I've had no more difficulty with Fomapan than with any other brands.

In 120 size?

The thin base compared to Fuji, Kodak and Ilford film is very evident and problematic when developing.

 

[steveo_mcg]

Must admit I don't find Ilford any less difficult to load than Foma or GP3.

 

[Asha]

In 120 size?

The thin base compared to Fuji, Kodak and Ilford film is very evident and problematic when developing.

Yes 120 format.....Tbh the only film I've regularly had issues with, simply due to its curly nature is 127 formats of all brands.

Don't get me wrong, like everyone who home devs, I occasionally have my moments when loading the spirals, the latest being a roll of Rollei Superpan 35mm which proved to be a complete [PLEASE DON'T TRY TO BYPASS THE SWEAR FILTER].