Expired Fuji film advice

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I've acquired a few rolls of expired Fuji film and I'm wondering what would be the best way of shooting and developing it. I have some Fujicolor Reala 100 (marked CS120 on the front) that expired in 1992 and some Fujichrome Velvia 50 slide film that's marked 1994. Specifically I'd like some advice on what would be the best speeds to shoot it at, how best to process it and whether it is so far past it's date that the colours will be miles off. If the latter is the case I may just stick it in the Holga and cross process the slide film in C41. Are there any guides to setting the speed for expired film? (i.e. 5 years out of date, add a stop, 10 years, two stops etc.)...or is it not that simple? I know one answer is, "shoot it and see what you get", but I don't want to waste it if I can get some good results with a little extra care.

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A stop for every 10 years is a good rule of thumb.

The velvia may only be good for cross processing as it tends to exhibit some colour shifts when expired.
 
A stop for every 10 years is a good rule of thumb.

The velvia may only be good for cross processing as it tends to exhibit some colour shifts when expired.

Thanks Rob. So I should be shooting the Reala 100 as though it's ISO 25? Have I got that right?
 
Yep!
 
Wow Reala expired in 1992, I'd like to see the results...if it was me I'd take the film to Asda for dev and scan for £3.......I'm not sure if Tesco do dev only for 99p or whether you have to have at least dev and scan for £3...but if you have a scanner it would be the cheapest way if unsure of the film.
 
Also how was the film stored ? :)

I know that it has at least been refrigerated since new, but it may have been frozen some or all of that time. Previously owned by a serious amateur who knew how to look after film.
 
Wow Reala expired in 1992, I'd like to see the results...if it was me I'd take the film to Asda for dev and scan for £3.......I'm not sure if Tesco do dev only for 99p or whether you have to have at least dev and scan for £3...but if you have a scanner it would be the cheapest way if unsure of the film.

I still fancy doing the dev myself as I'm really getting into that side of things...and I need to use up my C41 working solution before it goes off! Do all Tescos do dev these days? They don't seem to say much about it on their web site.
 
Does the 'one stop per ten year expiry' also apply to B&W film? I have Kodak technical Pan, orwopan 25, TMax 400 and a couple of others that are also out of date.
 
Does the 'one stop per ten year expiry' also apply to B&W film? I have Kodak technical Pan, orwopan 25, TMax 400 and a couple of others that are also out of date.

Generally yes, although it will again vary from film to film and depending on how it was stored. High speed films will generally degrade more than slower films.

If its especially slow like with Technical Pan, you'll probably get away with shooting it at box speed although remember that the speed and contrast with Tech Pan will massively vary based on what it is developed in, look up the datasheet to see what I mean. Its not really your "general purpose" B&W film as it was designed for scientific and technical photography, and it's very high contrast in normal developers (for normal "pictorial" contrast you have to use specialist low contrast developers - like the discontinued dedicated Technidol developer that was marketed with Technical Pan by Kodak. 1+300 Rodinal is apparently a good alternative.).
 
Hmmm...I was thinking of putting the Velvia slide film in the Holga and just processing it C41 to see what craziness comes out the other end. But using effective ISO 12 film in a Holga is going to result in massive under-exposure, unless I'm trying to shoot the surface of the sun. May have to use the Rollei and aim a little less crazy.
 
If you get nasty colour shifts with E6 processing, you can always do a b&w conversion in post, yes?

Anyway, nasty colour shifts are all the rage these days!
 
If you get nasty colour shifts with E6 processing, you can always do a b&w conversion in post, yes?

Anyway, nasty colour shifts are all the rage these days!

I don't mind nasty colour shifts when I've anticipated them...it's the unexpected (balls ups) that I'd like to avoid :)
 
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