Exeter pan 400

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Does anyone know what Exeter pan 400 might be? I’ve seen some people say it’s just Fomapan 400. The eBay listing says develop as fomapan 400 or HP5 400 which doesn’t really give any clues.
From google images it does have a similar look to Fomapan but it’s hard to say
 
I don't. I've never seen anything definitive.

I don't have the experience to judge but on Photrio in 2023 Agulliver said “It's not any known version of Fomapan because I use them all regularly and Exeter Pan XX behaves very differently to any of them. Development times are different, more like HP5+. The Exeter Pan film pushes much better than Fomapan 400, which would be the only possible candidate in Foma's range of films to push to 1600. Even if we consider a possible stash of the old Foma 800, that was far more grainy when pushed to 1600. Fomapan 400 is not only far more grainy but develops far more contrast when pushed."

He went on to say "This isn't identical to HP5+ in my opinion. The halation effect is greater with this Exeter Pan film. Otherwise it is certainly similar, though I do not have the time nor equipment to conduct laboratory type tests on it. Development times for HP5+ at 400 and 1600 in Microphen seem pretty much bang on, whereas development times for Fomapan 400 are incorrect - in my opinion and as per my preferences.

"The only solid conclusion I will say is that this isn't any Foma film that we're aware of. It *might* be Harman/Ilford P4
[Surveillance film]. It *might* be something else. I've never had any P4 in my hands to compare directly."


I bought a 100ft roll of Exeter on 20 June (2023) , expiry date 2/24 - the can says 'Made in EU' which, if correct, would seem out of line with the film being made in Mobberley, unless perhaps it was old stock; can items made in the UK still be described as made in the EU if they were made at a time when the UK was in the EU? If the made in EU is correct and it is not pre-Brexit Harman and not Fomapan that points towards it originating from either Inoviscoat or a former Soviet Union plant in one of the countries now in the EU.

The perforations are KS style perforations which are the norm for Still film, and Motion Picture print film. Movie Cameras in North America and Europe are generaly set to use "Bell and Howell" style perfs which have rounded ends and are slightly narrower. Movie cameras from the former Soviet Union use KS perforations.
 
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No clues on can (to me at least), searching for emulsion 2-519 has produced anything relevant.
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Perforations, no edge markings.
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I note that the can says "Acetate base". Back in 2008 there was a post on Photrio about Ilford P4 Surveillance film where none other than Simon Galley of Ilford confirmed that P4 had a PET base so unless P4 has changed or the can label is wrong it doesn't seem like it would be P4.
 
search ML XX

5 pages on photrio including testing

Kodak Plus x surveillance film?
 
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ORWO N75?
 
Could be, I think N75 has an acetate base and it would be 'Made in EU' so would fit on both counts.
 
Not to dredge up a dead thread but I’ve just ordered some Exeter pan 400. Largely because it comes with a bulk loader and a few cassettes.
I’ll develop a couple of frames as Orwo N75, or at least how the massive dev chart says too, and see how it goes
 
So I just developed a couple of test frames of Exeter pan 400 in Ilfotec Hc as if it was Orwo n75 based on the massive dev chart. 1:15 for 6.30min.
I’m pretty sure I overexposed this frame, I just used the meter on the Rollei 35, it seems to overexpose a little, I’ve had a few frames before that came out a bit light, but I’ve yet to scan it so who knows.
As far as I can tell though it looks well developed. It could well be Orwo n75
 

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So this was taken through a window and has a bit water spot as I didnt bother to use a wetting agent. However I dont mind it. The highlights seem to get blown very easily, it also has the same haliation/bloom thing that Ive seen in Fomapan. I think it is more of a film to use when it is overcast than in high contrast. Need to use it more but it seems ok so far. Just going by this very small test I would rather pay the extra and get HP5 in bulk. I dont use film often enough to worry too much about cost, a bulk roll of HP5 would last me quite a long time
 
Nice to see a real world test.
 
Nice to see a real world test.
I can’t say if I think it’s worth it or not yet. It doesn’t seem to be that sharp but I only used it in the Rollei 35, can never be sure if I got the focus completely right.
 
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