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What kind of filter would you suggest might have benefited Clive? Polarizing?A filter to darken the sky?
How many stops Andrew?I think that in such a situation, I'd have exposed for the bright areas and allowed the shadows to block up. It might have given a better indication of what you were seeing.
What kind of filter would you suggest might have benefited Clive? Polarizing?
the sun was behind me believe it or not, a very bright sunny day though with a blue sky. The scene is typically autumn with fallen brown and golden leaves and bare tree trunks.I don't know what colours there are in the scene, but if the sky was blue than something yellow through orange to red would darken the sky. Which tone of filter you choose depends on the colours of the scene because it will also have the effect of lightening some of them. A polarising filter could work if the angle of the sun was right for the composition. But it looks like you were shooting almost straight towards the sun, so not really.
Nigel's suggestion about diffused light is valid unless you want to include the shadows.
the sun was behind me believe it or not, a very bright sunny day though with a blue sky. The scene is typically autumn with fallen brown and golden leaves and bare tree trunks.
The light picking out the few leaves left on the low hanging branches are what I considered so nice and outstanding.
I have not done no where near enough thought or research to coloured filters.
Where there's a great deal of contrast, incident metering may not be the best idea.I incident metered and just did what it said,
Thank you for that CliveFor mono films yellow, orange and red filters give the effect of darkening a blue sky whilst lifting yellow, orange, red items in the scene. They don't have the same effect on grey skies though. Polarising filters work best at 90 degrees to the direction of sunlight.
Sometimes colour film works when mono doesn't.
Where there's a great deal of contrast, incident metering may not be the best idea.
It all depends on choosing which part(s) of the scene are the most important to what you are trying to show. In this case, you may have got closer to what you wanted by using reflective metering, directly off the the brighter areas of the ground.
I think I should have got closer as well 50mm on 6x7 is very wide. I could not get closer as I would have blocked the ray of light that was illuminating the leaves. I have another lens now (127mm) and possibly would have used that but I cannot say for sure.I think..... Got closer. Reduced exposure. Composed the light leaves up with a darker background.
With possibly a mainly brown/green background some orange autumn leaves would look lovely to the eye. But those colours don't obviously come through on black and white film.
Thanks for all the advice received, I think every point made is valid, I got so much wrong. I seem to struggle with undergrowth and fine detail in general with film.
I had forgotten how much messing about I did with this image,
Here is the raw(as imported) JPEG file cropped as suggested earlier.
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I was similarly unhappy with a recent shot. This is a pretty savage crop in order to get it uploaded. Ilford 5+ MF, 80mm lens.View attachment 469642
you can have a go if you like on this occasion,Are you happy for people to try re-processing your image? (you have NO beside 'edit my images')
Yup. I should have been way more specific in terms of focus. That trunk is like a candle with the wax sttling along the sides and should ave been the centrepiece to a much greater extent.Looks like the focus is too far back. The foliage in the background is sharper than the tree trunk.
you can have a go if you like on this occasion,
thanks
Apologies,In that case do you think you could upload the full size unedited image to somewhere like Dropbox, Google Drive, etc. and then post the link here.




Thanks for trying, I know it must be tough with uploaded images.The image quality at this size makes it almost impossible to do anything meaningful, but here's a quick edit:
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And here's the changes I made:
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To be honest I think you need a better scan to do any meaningful image development - getting it right in camera may not help for now, because it looks to me like the link between negative and screen is broken.
What does that mean "it looks to me like the link between negative and screen is broken"
Thanks for trying, I know it must be tough with uploaded images.
Yup. I should have been way more specific in terms of focus. That trunk is like a candle with the wax sttling along the sides and should ave been the centrepiece to a much greater extent.
I should have been using colour too. Those leaves in the foreground are mush - but a splash of colour might have made them a little more resolvable to the eye.
I am really disappointed with this photo, I stumbled on , what i considered a beautiful scene with light cascading through the forest and illuminating a few branches of a beech tree,. I thought it would make a nice photo.
What could I have done better?
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Ah, the focus mistake is all on me. I was using a Mamiya 645CM.It might be that autofocus has locked onto the stronger contrast of the fence or foliage at the back and there isn't enough frontal depth of field to render the closer part sharp.
yesThere's a strange pattern behind the neg - did you hold it in front of a monitor?