EVEREST ... nah - EVERWORST ... Double Glazing & Conservatories & Windows ?

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Fit the Best, but in my own humble opinion, definitely do not, no way, ever, fit EVEREST ... !

PROBLEM ... :help:

I want to set up a 'quick 'n dirty' web site to alert the unsuspecting other innocents who may be contemplating doing business with crap companies !

In my humble opinion the company named in the title is just such a business !

The web site must take my account of the works in all its shambles, many photographs of the crappy works and installation and also scans of correspondence and other documents - either by links or drop-ins ? I would also like to have contact/visitor details if possible.

Needless to say this site should also figure highly in any search engine results ...

BACKGROUND ... ?

OK ... Very, Very (Yawn) Long story short ...

Big name, bad reputation double glazing firm ...

Stupid client (me !) believes bleedin' sales patter - can you adam it ... places order ... fortunately only pays 10% deposit as it goes against one of my many principles to pay any deposit for anything ...

Two months later - Crap, very, installation job ... this you would just not believe ...

Three months nearly later - Crap and longer remedials visit ... followed by payment demands ...

Company then ceases correspondence and totally ignores my correspondence and suggestions for sorting the matter out before it gets expensive ... eventually 18 months or so after starting, and needless to say, it does just that ... gets very expensive ...

Legal battle ... bluff & double bluffs ... Client cannot afford to "go all the way" ... Big name knows this and 'wins' out ... client has to have job completed by company and insult to injury has to pay for it !

Nearly three years later the company have recently finished on site - but only as much as they felt they were going to do to sort the job and get paid ! PAID !

NOW ... I just want the satisfaction of seeing their name in lights with a proper account of the sort of job they have done ... and the warnings about our crap legal system that is most definitely not designed to sort these b'stards out ...

If I can prevent just one other potential customer from making our stupid, stupid mistakes I would feel much happier ... if it is more then so much the better !

HELP ... Please ... :help:

So ... if you have any ideas on how to set me up with a suitable web site without going overboard on the outlay ... I would be very, very grateful ... and so would EVERWORST ... don't you think ... :D

Thanks so much for reading - and in advance if you are able to help ... :thumbs:

Rog ... :p
 
It's called viral marketing. :) Just compose one nice email, attach a few *small* photos (but it must be small because people's inbox might not be big), and forward it to all your friends and ask them to forward it to all their friends. Email a special one to BBC watchdog or BBC news and all the other newspapers to see if they want to pick the story up and run with it. Particularly home improvement magazines or pull outs.

I sent out an email once asking for people in Singapore/Malaysia to go get their bone marrow tested because a friend's friend had leukemia. 2 weeks later I got emails from Dubai, US, Australia all asking how they can help. I got an email about a year later from someone else, but sadly, my friend's friend already passed away.
 
www.everworst.co.uk would cost you about £6 for 2 years (http://www.ukreg.com)

Then many choices for hosting. Will probably cost you £4 a month for hosting.

Then to make a simple site, you can either use a site builder (some hosting companies offer these) or find free site builders online, that or ask someone who can code HTML etc to give you a hand.

I could probably give you a hand making a pretty simple site.
 
Kamion said:
It's called viral marketing.
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:eek: ... I hadn't thought of anything like that Michael ... how devious are you ... :D

But seriously ... I would also like something more ... shall we say 'permanent' ... :thinking:



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If you want to set up a website then try www.z-host.com

They have some really affordable packages and guaranteed 99.99% uptime (which equates to under an hour of downtime per year before they start compensating users). Couple that with SQL/PHP support, included webspace and domain name, free web stats, plus unlimited email addresses and CPanel included and you really do get a lot for your money.

I got the Z-100 package plus a domain name which cost me £19 for the year.
 
Jimmy_Lemon said:
www.everworst.co.uk would cost you about £6 for 2 years (http://www.ukreg.com)

Then many choices for hosting. Will probably cost you £4 a month for hosting.

Then to make a simple site, you can either use a site builder (some hosting companies offer these) or find free site builders online, that or ask someone who can code HTML etc to give you a hand.

I could probably give you a hand making a pretty simple site.
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Likin' that approach Jimmy ... :thumbs:

And you'd really do that ... :thinking: ... could well be taking you up on that offer ... :thumbs:




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Good on ya Rog.. rub the bastids noses in it! :thumbs:
 
I'm with you on this on Ven, a great idea! My rant is a gym chain called LivingWell. When I wanted to cancel, I couldn't get through to thir call centre for a week. So they billed me £17 for the extra week's membership, even tho not my fault! I didn't pay of course, but then they got debt collectors involved, and as I'm applying for a mortgage I couldn't afford the black mark on my credit rating. It makes me so mad, so best of luck with it! :thumbs:

I'd love to see a 'name and shame' site. The only worry I see is that the site owner IS responsible for the posts on it, and might it be possible you could get sued by a big corporation? Wasn't there a McDonald's case a while back? :thinking:
 
GfK said:
If you want to set up a website then try www.z-host.com

They have some really affordable packages and guaranteed 99.99% uptime (which equates to under an hour of downtime per year before they start compensating users). Couple that with SQL/PHP support, included webspace and domain name, free web stats, plus unlimited email addresses and CPanel included and you really do get a lot for your money.

I got the Z-100 package plus a domain name which cost me £19 for the year.
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Thanks GfK ... They even have a .co.uk site too ... but not the .co.uk for registering ... :thinking:

Do you have to design your own site though ... never done that sort of thing before ... :eek:
 
Yep, everworst in various flavours is available (.com, .co.uk, etc)

Maybe try mis-spellings of everest.co.uk to catch people out when they try to find the official site! ;) (everrest.co.uk, evverest.co.uk, etc)

Less catchy, but everest-fittheworst.co.uk, or maybe go so far as to say everestsuck.co.uk or dontfiteverest.co.uk

I could get our website designer guy to rip off the everst website for you if you like?
 
GfK said:
Yep, but be careful to only state the facts! Otherwise you could get yourself in a heap of trouble!
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Oh yes ... very aware of this potential minefield ... but thanks for the reminder GfK ... :thumbs:




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markp said:
Yep, everworst in various flavours is available (.com, .co.uk, etc)

Maybe try mis-spellings of everest.co.uk to catch people out when they try to find the official site! ;) (everrest.co.uk, evverest.co.uk, etc)

Less catchy, but everest-fittheworst.co.uk, or maybe go so far as to say everestsuck.co.uk or dontfiteverest.co.uk

I could get our website designer guy to rip off the everst website for you if you like?
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Nice ideas Mark ... is the last remotely legal ... thinking copyrighting etc., ... :thinking:

They are a pretty big and powerful company after all ... :shrug:

Do you have to add stuff into titles and things to get search engines to list them high up in results ... :thinking:



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ajdesq said:
I'd love to see a 'name and shame' site. The only worry I see is that the site owner IS responsible for the posts on it, and might it be possible you could get sued by a big corporation? Wasn't there a McDonald's case a while back? :thinking:
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The libel law is pretty straightforward. The libel has to be likely to subject the person to hatred, ridicule or scorn, but it also has to be untrue. Provided what you say/write is the truth and you stick to facts you can substantiate then you have nothing at all to worry about. :)
 
CT said:
The libel law is pretty straightforward. The libel has to be likely to subject the person to hatred, ridicule or scorn, but it also has to be untrue. Provided what you say/write is the truth and you stick to facts you can substantiate then you have nothing at all to worry about. :)
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And boy do I have plenty of facts Cedric ... ;)





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Yep you have to design the site yourself. I'd recommend Nvu - its a free WYSIWYG website editor.
 
ajdesq said:
The only worry I see is that the site owner IS responsible for the posts on it, and might it be possible you could get sued by a big corporation? Wasn't there a McDonald's case a while back? :thinking:
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Thanx Andrew ... I don't foresee others being able to post ... simple make contact with me through an embedded link ... :D





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GfK said:
Yep you have to design the site yourself. I'd recommend Nvu - its a free WYSIWYG website editor.
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Thanks again GfK ... three or four bookmarks to investigate already and I only just posted ... amazing you guys are ... :thumbs:





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Venomator said:
Do you have to add stuff into titles and things to get search engines to list them high up in results ... :thinking:
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Handily I have access to a search-engine optimisation consultant, who I'm sure could give a few pointers!

With regards to the legality of ripping off the everest site, I'm not quite sure where you'd stand on that. If the site ever really took off, then you'd probably find yourself in a spot of trouble. I remember a while ago the young lad who got sued by Microsoft for owning a domain called mikerosoft.ca, but Everest Windows and Microsoft are in slightly different leagues! :lol:

Either way, you could make a site that was "similar" with a modified logo and such.

Let me know if I can be of help, sounds like it could be fun!
 
Here's my website, made with Nvu in just a couple of days. I also got to grips with CSS and PHP to make the site - neither of which I'd ever used before, so its all pretty easy. :)

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Actually Rog it's 'Hatred, ridicule or contempt'. (not scorn) :D
 
Impressive GfK ... not sure about the pink though ... :D

But then you are literate in these things ... ;)
 
Do you have to add stuff into titles and things to get search engines to list them high up in results
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Not really. Meta tags used to be the order of the day but I don't think webcrawlers/bots bother with meta data any more. The site content itself is more likely count, so make sure to mention company names lots. ;)
 
Like this ...

EVEREST EVEREST EVEREST EVEREST EVEREST EVEREST EVEREST EVEREST EVEREST EVEREST ... etc., ...

You mean ... ;)



I nearly threw up then ... :puke:


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"Everest, Double Glazing, UK, Windows, Conservatories, Doors..."

that kinda thing, but I think making the site accessible counts as well. I can ask next time I'm in contact with our consultant? He's shot himself in the foot with his last few jobs - did such a good job improving the rankings of some sites that there's no more work from those clients for him!
 
markp said:
"Everest, Double Glazing, UK, Windows, Conservatories, Doors..."
I can ask next time I'm in contact with our consultant?
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Both noted Mark ... really appreciate the offers of assistance ... :thumbs: ... may come a-knocking soon ... :D






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Venomator said:
:eek: ... I hadn't thought of anything like that Michael ... how devious are you ... :D

But seriously ... I would also like something more ... shall we say 'permanent' ... :thinking:



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Well, you can still use this idea once you have your website set up. Just attach a link to your website in the email and encourage people to post their comments! ;) That's when viral marketing shoots off. If you're ambitious, you can create a site that allows people to create their own page and rant about their experiences with other companies. I'm sure it'll go down REALLY well. Sort of a nationwide reference for companies offering services.
 
Plenty of other anti-companies sites are in existance such as www.nthellworld.co.uk so as long as you are carefull I don't think you will get into any trouble
 
Thanx Michael ... but as Andrew (ajdesq) said ... it could be a legal minefield allowing others to post stuff on a site ... :thinking:

Will sort the basics first and then see how it should develop ... if it does ... :shrug:

The thought counts though ... :thumbs:




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Jimmy_Lemon said:
Plenty of other anti-companies sites are in existance such as www.nthellworld.co.uk so as long as you are carefull I don't think you will get into any trouble
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Cheers Jimmy ... although that one appears to be a forum thingy ... but I know what you mean ... :thumbs:

I intend being oh so very careful m8 ... not giving them, or their bleedin' lawyers ... any more excuses to get more of my money ... :D




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I run a webdesign company, so can host the site for you if you want. Can also probably knock you up something quick as well.

PM me if your interested.

Cheers

Tony
 
Thanx Tony ... I may well do that ... :thumbs:

So many offers of assistance and advice ... though why am I not surprised ... :D

:thankyou: to everyone who has contributed thus far ... it has given me inspiration overflowing ... ;)




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LOL. We had a fairly happy experience with our double glazing install a couple of years ago. We avoided the cheapest and the dearest and went with a firm called 'Amber' - I dunno how widespread they are nationally. Quality product and the installation guys were thorough professionals with no mess.

A neighbour went for a cheapo firm at half the price we paid and he's having huge problems with leaks and all sorts, plus they've inserted all the glass and beading from outside... burglars paradise!

I must admit I thought Everest were the dogs dangly bits in double glazing. :shrug:
 
CT said:
I must admit I thought Everest were the dogs dangly bits in double glazing. :shrug:
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You should talk with Jill ... she'd castrate the dog and stew the bits ... before feeding them to other sharks ... :suspect:

In our innocence we honestly thought we couldn't go wrong ... and didn't even bother with any internet research ... until it was too late ... if only ... :shrug:






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So what did you come up with in your search after the installation? Any juicy dirt?
 
Roger you could try www.streamline.net they do 3 months free trial on unlimited user package, then you can switch to the basic home user which is £27.99 for 2 years. They will also sort out your .co.uk for you which is £8.50 but they refund the cost of this when you take out a package. I've usede them for a while now had no probs what so ever also customer service is good too. They also have a web wizard to help you setup your site with pre-designed templates etc. which would be ideal for what you want, see my site (work in progress) just a template I picked and stuck in my picture.

Regards to EverSh*t sister had same prob, paid deposit £1500 ish they fitted everything not brilliantly and also left a load of mess including long (3-5 inches) shards of glass in both my niece and nephews bedrooms and the rest of the house bunch of cowboys, sister refused to pay rest, long battle commenced and they basically didn't pay a penny more as she threatend to take them to court etc.....Give em both barrels from me!!:boxer:
 
BBW said:
So what did you come up with in your search after the installation? Any juicy dirt?
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Not exactly after the installation BBW but we found some ex-customer blogs 'n sites that would really have made us think twice ... or thrice ... before using Everest ...

In fact there is no way we would have used them for our installation works ... all our windows, and front & back doors, plus a new French Door installation in second bedroom ... we were also going to get an Everest Alarm and have the guttering/shuttering done too but fortunately cancelled both these when our troubles started ... and got the deposits returned ... :D

BTB BBW ... :D ... quite like your NEVEREST idea ... thanx ... :thumbs:




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UncleGlen said:
Roger you could try www.streamline.net they do 3 months free trial on unlimited user package
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Thanks Glen - hadn't heard of them yet ... will check them out too ... :thumbs:

Got really nasty when we went legal with them ... owed them a lot of money and the law did not work kindly for us in the circumstances ... possibly bad choice of solicitor on our part dunno ... but we got well screwed over ... :shrug:

Hence the need to try and warn others about EVEREST company's practices and the legal issues when things go wrong ... pleased your sister kept hold of her money though ... good for her ... :D



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