Ever had that one tog mate?

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Who seems to dislike every photo you take?
I work with a chap who seems to dislike just about everything i take, and has a pure hate for the letters H D and R.
I get told constantly that my equipment isn't up to the shots he takes. he uses a 5D and i use a D200. Apparently theres miles between his and mine. I asked himt o post some images up here but he won't.
its got as silly as i took a photo for a guy in the office and when he found out he shot in there with a photo of the same thing he took. To see fi his was better :thinking:

He loves to critisise my work, which is fine i need that. But when i return the favour, he walks off!!:shrug:

Anyone else had similar?
 
vecsri said:
He loves to critisise my work
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But does he suggest ways to improve it? Sounds more like he's worried about you being better than him!
 
Things he tells me is things that i cannot do anything about.
Like theres no clouds, or the suns in the wrong place. When the sun fails to shine on that side of a building lol
 
Mixed thoughts...one he seems very childish with how he acts by rushing in the office to compare pictures, if he compared with yourself then thats constructive.
Ask him to do that rather than what he does.

Secondly, no clouds? sun in the wrong place? no sun?
I think its his way of saying go back and try again on another day and a different time of day so that the elements hes suggested are incorporated in your next shot.

That said he just might be a big baby with a Canon / Nikon problem?

Dave
 
Well yeh he hates Nikon, Thinks they're kids toys.

just been tiold this mroning i don't really have the right idea for photography, cause i haven't done the adult college course he has :S
 
He sounds like somebody who isnt particular sure of their skills so just tried to confirm their superiority over you by critising everything.

What is his shots like ?
 
Sounds like he has a problem, you are the one genuinely asking for advice and being open. I think inadequacy is the word (mispelt but still its the word!)

Mark
 
I'm sure it is just a jealousy thing and this guy see's you as threat. If he only likes to give criticism and not take it then he is a fool and will never learn anything. He probably believes he has no more to learn. In which case he is an idiot.
Learn from him by vowing never to become like him when you reach your personal goals.Its time to take advice from your experienced friends on hear and ignore this prat.
I can see where his jealousy is coming from, but he should accept the responsibility for choosing the wrong system. It must drive him mad to see your gear.......;-) :-) :-)
Stand proud and ignore. Enjoy your photography.
 
Dont beat yourself up about it - just let him think what he likes.

The D200 is a mighty fine camera.

Photography, like all creative mediums is subjective and to understand and learn how hard some shots can be to create comes only from taking pictures. Like learning to play a tune someone else wrote etc.

Keep going and dont let his idiocy get to you.
 
mole2k said:
He sounds like somebody who isnt particular sure of their skills so just tried to confirm their superiority over you by critising everything.

What is his shots like ?
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His shots, without him here to defend them i feel bad commenting.
But i occasionally feel they lack detail, otherwise quite good. He doesn't like being told hes blwon the sky out though, apparently thats a good thing. Something i try my hardest to avoid without using filters. That i don't knwo if i'll ever manage:thumbsdown:

I love photography, he'll never put me off it, i just don't like taking photos in to work any more. I'll stick to here for friendly constructive critism.
 
vecsri said:
just been tiold this mroning i don't really have the right idea for photography, cause i haven't done the adult college course he has :S
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imo you can learn alot from college.
" not that i have ever been "

but you can also learn as much from forums and searching the net..

if i was you i would keep doing your best and enjoying yourself thats the main thing..
im sure that he is only trying to make himself feel better.

" or he is not very good at explaining himself constuctively"

:shrug: of my 2 years into photography i have learnt pretty much everything i know from here:shrug:

hth..

learn at the college of TP..:thumbs:


MD:thumbs:
 
Its a VERY good college too! You've only been photo'ing for 2 years? Your photos are amasing!
 
What's his email address so we can send emails of our photo's are better than yours , see how he likes that :D
 
Got to agree with Monkey Dave, the more you read/learn from websites/books the better. And the advantage of forums is that you get mote than one option, not just the teachers. That has to be better, not that structured courses are bad.

TP Rocks :thumbs:
 
He doesn't sound like a mate at all. Just sounds like a jealous person.
 
Marcel said:
He doesn't sound like a mate at all. Just sounds like a jealous person.
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Spot on. I can't believe you're actually describing this person as any kind of friend?!

If your other workmates enjoy looking at your shots then continue to take them in and show them, but I'd be inclined to avoid asking for this other character's opinions - he's clearly incapable of being objective, and also doesn't know as much as he thinks he does, considering his comments regarding the comparisons between your kits. Does he really think that the kit takes the photo, rather than the 'tog?!

I assume with you working together, a confrontation would be inappropriate?
 
I must say I felt the same after reading your initial posting. This doesnt sound like a friend.....its a contradiction in terms.

I thought it was just some bloke who works in the office that you can steer clear of.

Time to weedle out 'friends' from aquaintances methinks.

And..... take no notice if possible... I know its difficult... but a jealous friend is no friend.
 
I'm wondering if this 'mate' is confrontational in everyday life? Ignore him and get on with being you.

IMO
 
Hes hard work. My worry is, today he asked about how to post on this site. So he might read this lol
 
Seriously, anyone who can make the statement that Nikon are kids toys isn't worthy of any credibility at all. He sounds like someone on an ego trip and totally unsure of his own abilities, afraid of a bit of criticism, and bolstering his ego by putting you down. ;)
 
vecsri said:
Hes hard work. My worry is, today he asked about how to post on this site. So he might read this lol
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Tell him he can't because his equipment isn't up to scratch :lol:
 
Walk away from the imbecile the child thinks just because he has a highly rated camera his shots are better what drivel, i have a pic somewhere that i love i only ever took snap shots when on a trip but love a slightly dark shot on bridlington beach bit windy and our 4 kids at the time that i love, shot on a 110 camera.
Its not the kit its the shot.
Stick at it dude and this is the best place for unbiased feedback
 
mole2k said:
He sounds like somebody who isnt particular sure of their skills so just tried to confirm their superiority over you by critising everything.
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Sounds about right to me.

The D200 is a very fine camera! I took some great pictures with mine when I had one. Needs pointing out to him that its not the camera that makes a difference but the person behind it.

Or maybe he just wishes he got a Nikon setup and its his strange way of making himself feel better that he didn't (which would be madness, never get people who defend their choices to the death).
 
Hes a die hard Canon user. Went from a 350D to a 5D.
 
we had on of those. another pro tog too.he is officialy known as a K**B by most togs that know him.,and we do better with customers than he does.
we get more repeat biz/referals from our customers than he does too.
sadly the world is full of people with the correct opinion. or so THEY think.their style/techniques are the right ones , and everyone else is wrong.
HE uses 1D,S and reckons his work is superior to the stuff my wife produces on 30D,s. this is def complete cobblers, as other pro togs and customers rate her work as superior to his.
as people have said, the important equipment is the grey matter of the tog.
i,ll love love to see the look on his face when we collect the
5D shortly.
as your mate/co-worker is such an asre, i suggest you listen to what he says , then ignore the prat completely.
 
I agree with everyone he isnt a friend,sounds like an idiot. I had something a bit similar in that I did a photo shoot for somebody I worked with at a very cheap price as a favour. Spent hours editing her photos with a lot of love then when I showed them to her, she did nothing but snarled and criticised the photos and my work. I showed everyone else at office and everyone else can see they are great. She made my life a misery for 48 hours making me doubt my ability but I have gotten over it now and all ready to go again:) Moral of the story is there will always be people who will put you down, u just gotta believe in u,if it isnt constructive criticisms, ignore them cos they are not worth a second of your time :)
 
vecsri said:
Well yeh he hates Nikon, Thinks they're kids toys.

just been tiold this mroning i don't really have the right idea for photography, cause i haven't done the adult college course he has :S
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hahaha, priceless :D Tell him to get stuffed or put up with it and do this once in a while : :bang: :D
 
Well you know what they say, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. ;)
 
Sounds like your colleague has some huge insecurity issues to me! He can't be you, so he criticises you instead! I wouldn't stop taking your work in, that would essentially be letting him defeat you, keep taking them in and if he feels a need to carry on, simply tell him 'each to their own' and ignore him.

I have a friend just like this... everything I do is never as good as something he could do! It can start to get you down after a while, and doubt your own worth, but then you just have to remind yourself that they are obviously doing it because they are trying to make themselves feel better.

Chin up, I'm sure your work is amazing!
 
I get this all the time from a "friend". Let's just from the 100 or so shots I have shown him, he has said 3 are allright. He has shown me 3 or 4 in return which he says are perfect....

He also crit's nikon everything, "the glass is nowhere near as good as the canon stuff"...

I just smile, walk away, and call him a ****er under me breath :)
 
vecsri said:
Hes a die hard Canon user. Went from a 350D to a 5D.
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Eh! Nothing wrong with that :razz: [<-- been waiting ages to use that smiley :) ]

It's [as everyone else has said] all down to his basic insecurities. Some people are not happy or comfortable until they are bringing someone down.

Ask him to either shut up or put some photos up for you to critique. Not worth falling out with him unless he is a *total* ass though :)
 
Janice said:
We dont want him!!!! :D :lol: ;)
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Oh yes we do, I can see loads of fun with this little chappy. I have a great fondness for feeding people with their own medicine.

Bring him on I say. Or failing that, I'll take any of these types off peoples hands. I'm plenty happy enough with my kit and shots to be told they're worthless all day long. :D
 
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