Ever had a terrorist in your house?

onona said:
The conspiracy theories about 9/11 have all been soundly proven wrong. There's a reason why credible scientists and engineers scoff at the ludicrous scenarios dreamed up by conspiracy theorists to "explain" how the WTC came down via explosives and whatnot, and it's not because they've been paid off by the government or there's been a cover up - it's because the theories are fundamentally absurd.

It absolutely blows my mind that educated adults believe YouTube videos made by clueless idiots instead of actually bothering to read history books and study the evidence to understand what led up to 9/11 and how the events played out. Honestly, while I love the ease of access to information that the web has given us, it's a tragedy of epic proportions that along with useful information, it's also meant that entire generations are polluting their clearly far-too-easily impressionable minds with puerile garbage masquerading as documentaries. Zeitgeist, Loose Change, and the rest of that ludicrous crap, I'm talking about you. If people actually bothered to fact-check the claims made by these films (one can't refer to them as documentaries, because they're not), they'd quickly realise how stupid and riddled with misguided inaccuracies (at best) to outright lies (at worst) they are. But it's sadly much easier to just watch a dumb video on the internet and then assume you're all clued up, instead of actually lifting a finger to educate yourself with research from credible sources, backed up by evidence along with scientific and historical fact. I'm all in favour of skepticism, but there's a vast chasm of difference between skepticism and outright stupidity.

Religious fundamentalism is very real, and very dangerous, and I'm not just talking about the Islamic type either.

Next you're going to be claiming that man has never stepped on the moon.
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I understand that much of the information passed off as fact is either conjecture or BS. But there are many fundamental questions that remain, why did WTC7 crumble in the exact fashion as a controlled demo? And I for one do not mindlessly believe that a passport pertaining to be from one the 'hijackers' made it out unscathed to be found on the pavement below. Never mind all the confiscated CCTV taken by the FBI that has never surfaced. The way the towers came down in the exact same way at free fall speed is incredibly suspicious, they were steel structures, all this BS about the floors giving way is utter drivel. I can go on...

And by the way, there are many engineers and even family members of the victims that do not believe the official version of events.
 
doublem1 said:
I understand that much of the information passed off as fact is either conjecture or BS. But there are many fundamental questions that remain, why did WTC7 crumble in the exact fashion as a controlled demo? And I for one do not mindlessly believe that a passport pertaining to be from one the 'hijackers' made it out unscathed to be found on the pavement below. Never mind all the confiscated CCTV taken by the FBI that has never surfaced. The way the towers came down in the exact same way at free fall speed is incredibly suspicious, they were steel structures, all this BS about the floors giving way is utter drivel. I can go on...

And by the way, there are many engineers and even family members of the victims that do not believe the official version of events.
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You forgot to mention the missile that hit the Pentagon... apparently the aircraft wreckage totally disappeared... :D
 
The Royal Family are really lizards.
 
doublem1 said:
I understand that much of the information passed off as fact is either conjecture or BS. But there are many fundamental questions that remain, why did WTC7 crumble in the exact fashion as a controlled demo? And I for one do not mindlessly believe that a passport pertaining to be from one the 'hijackers' made it out unscathed to be found on the pavement below. Never mind all the confiscated CCTV taken by the FBI that has never surfaced. The way the towers came down in the exact same way at free fall speed is incredibly suspicious, they were steel structures, all this BS about the floors giving way is utter drivel. I can go on...
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The towers fell like that because the internal steel core melted - or joints in it did which caused them to collapse inwards on themselves (having essentially the same effect that you get when you blow a tower block up - hence why they came down in the same sort of way.

The only nutter drivel is that being spouted on the conspiracy websites - personally i'll stick to occams razor :lol:
 
On the Huh said:
The Royal Family are really lizards.
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and david cameron and nick clegg are clones generated by an alien race bent on taking over the world - which is why they look so similar :lol:
 
big soft moose said:
and david cameron and nick clegg are clones generated by an alien race bent on taking over the world - which is why they look so similar :lol:
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Now that I can believe. They certainly don't have an ounce of human decency between them :naughty:
 
kennysarmy said:
Never had a terrorist in my house, but, I used to live next to Fred West! In fact when they knocked down his house, they knocked down the building which had the flat in that I used to rent....
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That reminds me... really must get my patio fixed. Fred was awesome at slabs.. bless him.
 
Yeh! I frigging married one :help:
 
I don't believe either side. Both are as bad as each other.
 
never had a terrorist in "my" house but plenty in the houses i work in.
 
TCR4x4 said:
Somewhat worrying.
He is back walking the streets of my City as if nothing ever happened.

http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co...spotted-city/story-15837995-detail/story.html

Some of the comments there are quite right. He got pulled into this in the first place, whats to say he wont again.
And another very valid point. If you were in a terrorist organisation and one of your fellow comrades decided to dish the dirt on you and brazenly walk around his home city, dont you think they might want to do something about his apparent traitorship.

Either he is very niaeve and thinks they wont come after him, or a cinic might think this has all been pre planned before his capture and what he has told or is telling the authorities is a bunch of crap, to get him out of the clink.

So now I have a convicted terrorist walking around my streets (literally streets away) and the possibilty of a international terror organisation wanting some revenge.. Great.
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Yep makes you laugh really, the way our great governments say we don't negotiate with terrorists, unless of course it suits, anyway we should be used to this government and previous ones letting terrorists walk our streets, lets face it they have been doing it for years ie Abu hamza and his cronies, and of course the infamous Abu qatada, what a joke that one is, comes in to this country as a bogus asylum seeker, preaches hate against the country for 12 years and how do we reward him and his family, well of course the same as we reward the rest of them, we give them a house and benefits paid for by the tax payer. And now it seems we just can't get rid of him, or so they tell us, what utter BS you just couldn't effing make it up, it makes my blood boil, if we do ever have another 7/7 or the like make no mistake it will be the governments fault, and there won't be any need for any conspiracy theories as it's plain to see by all how they let terrorists walk our streets.
 
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