EU - In / Out debate sorted :)

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I have to admit to already being totally sick to death of the EU IN / OUT 'debate' as its so full of ridiculous financial assumptions from both sides, and clearly the best brains in the UK don't know what's best for us

So - I've taken the ONLY sensible option and tossed a coin

OUT won

Voting sorted

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Sorry m8 you're too late... http://www.newscross.co.uk/eu-referendum-called-off-after-both-sides-run-out-of-b******t the last word is bovine excretia to make the link work.
 
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I saw that Gove fella on something at the weekend and got the impression it is only because his father and his fishing community were 'affected' by the EU (or whoever it was) that he is campaigning so hard for the leave crowd. Do they all (in and out) simply have personal causes and make up figures to get people behind them?
 
What's a detate?
 
nickEnackEnoo said:
I saw that Gove fella on something at the weekend and got the impression it is only because his father and his fishing community were 'affected' by the EU (or whoever it was) that he is campaigning so hard for the leave crowd. Do they all (in and out) simply have personal causes and make up figures to get people behind them?
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I strongly suspect that personal interests could sometimes play a part..
For wealthy landowners, the best thing since sliced bread is the single payment farm subsidy, which basically pays people an enormous amount of money every year for land that they own.
We own a small farm and get the payment, we don't actually have to produce anything at all to get it, we just need to fill in a form. Of course, we don't have a lot of land so we don't get much, but there are many landowners who have thousands of acres
 
Garry Edwards said:
I strongly suspect that personal interests could sometimes play a part..
For wealthy landowners, the best thing since sliced bread is the single payment farm subsidy, which basically pays people an enormous amount of money every year for land that they own.
We own a small farm and get the payment, we don't actually have to produce anything at all to get it, we just need to fill in a form. Of course, we don't have a lot of land so we don't get much, but there are many landowners who have thousands of acres
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I think I learned about that through this very forum and have always accepted current interests have an influence on people. I just thought it odd for such a major campaigner to openly admit that his bitterness of something that happened 40 years ago is driving him on, possibly blinding him to whether it is for the overall betterment of the country, which he is serving as an MP. Maybe I didn't pay enough attention to the piece, but that's the impression I got.
 
nickEnackEnoo said " Do they all (in and out) simply have personal causes and make up figures to get people behind them? "

Garry Edwards said " I strongly suspect that personal interests could sometimes play a part.. "

So what's new ? do you think most voters in the EU referendum or maybe a UK General Election see the 'big picture' and vote for what they think is best for the country ?

Excuse me for being a cynical old git but . . . . . .
 
badlywornroy said:
Excuse me for being a cynical old git but . . . . . .
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Oh, I know it sounds a little naive from me, but the heart wrenching (pffft) piece just seemed a bit blatant. Maybe there are other stories/TV pieces floating around that passed me by.
 
nickEnackEnoo said:
I saw that Gove fella on something at the weekend and got the impression it is only because his father and his fishing community were 'affected' by the EU (or whoever it was) that he is campaigning so hard for the leave crowd. Do they all (in and out) simply have personal causes and make up figures to get people behind them?
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It's the culture of not accepting responsibility. There was massive over fishing, the fisheries brought themselves down, but the EU is someone to blame because they brought in quotas, quotas which have helped the fish stocks recover.

Same with the payment to farmers to not grow things, it was either that, or massive over supply leading to mountains of food and plummetting commodity prices. By paying them to not use some of their land, it means the land can stay "wild" and protect some wildlife's habitat, while also stopping any further over supply.

Whether you agree with the reasons, is a different matter though :)
 
No matter what happens, IN or OUT, the sh1t will hit the fan on the 23rd or whatever date the result is known as anger, distrust, excuses are spreading all over the place ...... it is going to be a "fun" time

Osborne warns the UK yet again

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36534192

and the Germans have suddenly been unable to keep their views as private as they normally would do

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36526839

there even been a suggestion that if the UK vote to leave the EU will try to stop the UK from doing so
 
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I've just moved all of my pension funds out of any UK stocks to protect my investments if leave does win.
 
KitsuneAndy said:
I've just moved all of my pension funds out of any UK stocks to protect my investments if leave does win.
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ALL, but surely not into Euro stocks and certainly not for any significant amount or percentage ..... but at least you have put "your money were you mouth is"

Good luck, but it is not an investment strategy that anyone would recommend particularly if you are a "UK Investor"

will you be able to compare the value of what you sold with it's value in August
 
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KitsuneAndy said:
I've just moved all of my pension funds out of any UK stocks to protect my investments if leave does win.
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I can recommend a good Swiss bank if you are interested :thumbs: :) And Luxembourg or Liechtenstein as well.
 
BillN_33 said:
ALL, but surely not into Euro stocks and certainly not for any significant amount or percentage ..... but at least you have put "your money were you mouth is"

Good luck, but it is not an investment strategy that anyone would recommend particularly if you are a "UK Investor"

will you be able to compare the value of what you sold with it's value in August
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I've just put it in a very low risk fund until after the vote then I'll switch back even if we do leave. If we leave I think the immediate impact will be more of a drop than the growth will if we stay.

Being able to switch funds online for my pension makes it easy to do, so I'd be silly to not reduce the risk. I'm sure I'm far from the only one doing it
 
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