Estate Agent Photography

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One of my mates is putting his house up for sale, he asked me if I'd take the photographs, instead of the agent, as he reckoned my photographs would be better.

I told him to check that the estate agent was okay with that first, which he was, then went round to his to take the shots. Prior to taking the shots I checked similar properties to see what kind of angles and shots were being used. The general quality of the images was poor to say the least, with many being out of focus, blurred and not really showing much of the room.

I took mine and emailed them to my mate, the agent also went round and took a few. I told my mate that I wouldn't be offended if they didn't want to use mine!

My mate phoned me tonight to say that the photos were on the website, but apologised as the agent had insisted in using some of his, "you can tell what ones are his" were my mates exact words.

If anyone is interested in seeing the photos they can be seen here

http://www.thinkigloo.com/buy_a_new_home.htm

You might need to search for a 4 bedroom house in Love Drive, Bellshill.


Does anyone think that there is much of a market for photographers with estate agents?

Dave
 
Hi Bloody hell where is that i want to move there, a 3 bed semi cost that much round here.


Photos are very good did you use a wide angle lens, like the vertical if there are any mirrors you could have made good use of them by giving the feeling of size, upload as many as you can, and advertise the garden as a 5th room in summer,
 
Jeez, I thought that was expensive!

We got a 3 bed semi for under 100k only 2 years ago! :)

I just used my Sigma 17-70mm lens, if I got a few jobs doing it I'd definitely invest in the 10-20mm though!

I'm planning to visit some local agents to see if they have any requirement for my services!
 
God I'm jealous!!!

Currently buying a 3bed terrace for just over 200k and a mate just bought a 4bed detached, smaller than your mates, for 460k.

I gotta get out of this area!!

Great shots mate.

Can definately see you used a wide angle lens and they didn't. What muppetts!!
How can they promote something that is meant to give a sense of space or size with a p&s camera. It almost seems they don't care.
 
I'll take it! Now if you could just have it wrapped and delivered to Edinburgh .....
 
Dave,

To answer your original question........

My wife works for an estate agent, they have a 400D with a Sigma 10-20. They shoot smaller JPG's the "mid" quality setting. They have standard templates for both web and collateral.

Most don't have a need for high quality digital images, so I don't think the market would be big enough.

Steve
 
Does anyone think that there is much of a market for photographers with estate agents?

Well, I seem to make some sort of living out of it!

Seriously though.....

Either

A) try and get work with one of the property marketing companies....

Quidos, BPM, Niche, Datography etc.

or

b) Get a portfolio together and tout yourself round the local agents.

What do you have to lose?
 
I nearly took a job doing this. The only market for this is for houses on the higher end of the scale, and you have alot of traveling, organising appointments (remember most people work so it will have to be evenings or weekends) and it is generally alot of work for not that much money. I say no, Its crap.
 
Dave,

To answer your original question........

My wife works for an estate agent, they have a 400D with a Sigma 10-20. They shoot smaller JPG's the "mid" quality setting. They have standard templates for both web and collateral.

Most don't have a need for high quality digital images, so I don't think the market would be big enough.

Steve

Thanks Steve, during the current "credit crunch" might not the best time for agents, but I'll give it a try!

Dave
 
Well, I seem to make some sort of living out of it!

Seriously though.....

Either

A) try and get work with one of the property marketing companies....

Quidos, BPM, Niche, Datography etc.

or

b) Get a portfolio together and tout yourself round the local agents.

What do you have to lose?

Thanks for the info, you're right, I've nothing to lose so I'll give it a bash!

Dave
 
I would say that now has to be one of the worse times to be considering any sort of job within the housing market and Estate Agencies particularly............

How about punting yourself around the local hotels to do their interiors?
 
I would say that now has to be one of the worse times to be considering any sort of job within the housing market and Estate Agencies particularly............

How about punting yourself around the local hotels to do their interiors?

I think you might be right, but in a more competitive market it might give one estate agents the edge over another, for the sake of a few phonecalls it's worth a try!

I'll give some local hotels a try as well, I'm just starting up on my own and doing it alongside my fulltime job so I'm limited just now in the time department!

Dave
 
I think you might be right, but in a more competitive market it might give one estate agents the edge over another, for the sake of a few phonecalls it's worth a try!

Good luck with it and, as you say, it is worth a few phone calls.

Estate Agents are dropping like flys around here (and that includes at least one of the top end agents)..........
 
I work for a care home company and last year we had a photographer in to re-do the company brochure of the homes. His efforts weren't great, but the last time they were done the sun was shining and the skies blue.

There's a market for this kind of thing, though I'm not sure how big
 
Good luck with it and, as you say, it is worth a few phone calls.

Estate Agents are dropping like flys around here (and that includes at least one of the top end agents)..........

Yeah, my mate runs an estate agency and mortgage advisory, he's telling me things are grim and they're looking at payoffs!!
 
Dave, times are very tough in this market, big time. Saying that, eHouse I think they might be called, are looking for full time togs up this way, great pay too.

G.

eHouse job.

Payment for individual jobs varies between £30 and £90, and a job takes between 40 minutes and 3 hours on site. Some days you will earn little, some days it will be £200. If you are based in a central area, you can expect to earn between £1,800 and £2,500 per month in most months, assuming you make yourself available full time for us, but you will also have to meet some travel costs from this

So they might pay as little of £30 per job which might take up to three hours, and you have to pay your travelling costs out of that too...........
 
£10 an hour, minus expenses is still a livable wage.
 
Halifax took ours with a canon P&S and would not let me supply pics :(
 
£10 an hour, minus expenses is still a livable wage.

..but it isn't £10 per hour. You have to provide all your own equipment including a car, plus your own fuel. Say you do two jobs in a day at three hours each, plus travel time, that is a full day for £60.

£60, less your fuel costs (£10/£20?), less tax and insurance (business use) on your car, less wear and tear on your car, less parking, less lunch, less wear and tear on your kit, less the cost of buying your kit in the first place, less insurance, less your time to invoice, less your time to process/send the photos to them, less the cost of a PC on XP, less the cost of a mobile phone, less the costs of the calls, less the cost of broadband and finally, less tax and NI.........you'd be lucky to break even. VERY lucky........
 
Halifax took ours with a canon P&S and would not let me supply pics :(

I think you can be sued for misrepresenting a property by enhancing a photo, need to be careful. I think it even applies to things like changing the colour of grass etc, or so a lawyer contact told me. I once cleaned a "path slab" for a property for rent, and was told it could not be used.

G.
 
Ah yes, come to think of it, I think one of the reasons she stated was something to do with misrepresentation and new/recent laws.
 
If it's a £30 job, that'll be a basic floorplan or a quick in and photo job that will take you around 30 minutes for either...

The company I work for pay on a percentage basis and we get 50% of what they charge the agent!

We're no quieter at the mo than we normally would be at this time of year. With everybody away on their summer hols things are naturally quiet. We also mainly do work for top-end agents and that market is still quite bouyant.

Ultimately, it's only new instructions that matter to us, not whether or not the property sells!

But yeah, still go for it.

If you want any tips then drop me a PM, I'm always glad to help!
 
If it's a £30 job, that'll be a basic floorplan or a quick in and photo job that will take you around 30 minutes for either...

I work for ehouse and I can tell you this is pretty accurate. On a good day, with lots of short jobs, you can do up to 4 which isn't bad money really. For bigger properties you get a lot more money so sometimes I find myself getting a day rate for a huge property, or development, other days I do a lot of small jobs.

Despite the problems with the recession business seems ok and it suits me because I can fit it around my other work.

They just updated their website www.ehouse.co.uk and it doesn't look like they are recruiting any more.. but I'm sure that will change after this economic downturn.
 
Id say the market is definately there, even with the "credit crunch" going on.

Before i made the choice to move to Sweden i was in the early stages of setting up my own property photography company.

To cut a long story short, there was about 10-12 estate agents within 2 miles of me, all using the 2 major photography companies. They would charge Up to £399 (depending on property size) for photos and floorplan. I got started by doing work for my estate agent who i happened to live above and then once i had done a few properties starting pimping myself out to other agents. I used to charge a minimum of £30 for a 1bed going up to maximum of £120 for the larger properties. I had no problems getting work once the clients saw the quality of mine and even though Moving to Sweden was the right choice for me, i kinda wish i had stuck it out and seen where it took me.
 
I've had a few dealings with estate agents "recently"
( don't ask, :( bunch of useless *****, but I digress)
They all do their own plans and pictures usually with a "point and shoot".
I am surprised that they are prepared to pay for this "service" in some areas
Good luck should you decide to follow it through :thumbs:
 
I have struggled to even get my foot in this market door for the past 4 years and i can produce 360º virtual tours of propertys 100 times better than the carp you usually see on some of the sites. They just arnt interested in photographers they just want estate agents with a point and shoot

thats from my experience anyway
 
To cut a long story short, there was about 10-12 estate agents within 2 miles of me, all using the 2 major photography companies. They would charge Up to £399 (depending on property size) for photos and floorplan. I got started by doing work for my estate agent who i happened to live above and then once i had done a few properties starting pimping myself out to other agents. I used to charge a minimum of £30 for a 1bed going up to maximum of £120 for the larger properties. I had no problems getting work once the clients saw the quality of mine and even though Moving to Sweden was the right choice for me, i kinda wish i had stuck it out and seen where it took me.

Kin ell! thats pricey!

Wasn't us was it? (quidos?)

Market is still strong enough for us to support a good team of togs an we're expanding as well!
 
Kin ell! thats pricey!

Wasn't us was it? (quidos?)

Market is still strong enough for us to support a good team of togs an we're expanding as well!

Nope, the 2 main companies used in my local area were photoplan and property360, both certainly good at what they do, just for a large fee. I got plenty of work simply because my quality of work was better for a cheaper cost.

Not really my ideal type of photography buts its nice to get paid for doing something you enjoy!
 
I thought id add a reply to this thread. I have been a property photographer for 5 months now and i must say it has been one of the most fun jobs i have done in photography although weddings is my best. This job position however enjoyable it is comes with a high price. There are times when it does get very busy and lunch is occasionally eaten with the left hand while the right hand is on the mouse, or eating while on my way to a job. However the good points of this type of job is:
1 You spend half your time in office at your desk and the other half on the road and on location so its a mix of both worlds.
2 You get to meet lots of different people while you work, some people are happy to just let you get on with it and you dont hear a thing , others like to have a chit chat so its a good social job.
3 you get to see some amazing homes and understand many different peoples way of living ( inside your mind you judge what you like and dont like but still maintain a professional manner after all you are representing your office and company.
4 your camera skills and editing skills will improve every day. on average i shoot 2 to 4 properties a day depending on size taking anything from a hundred to 300 photos each day out of these probably 40% get edited so you are always improving you craft which will help you in other areas of photography.
5 each job is different and you face different challenges, obviously the most common like in all photography jobs is lighting. Maintaining the correct lighting to show the colors is important and making sure the room is well lit so detail is there and is attractive to the viewer.
6 being an online market its nice to see your properties piling up on the internet and knowing that thousands of people will see your work.
7 when interest is shown in a property from a potential buyer its nice to know they was attracted to your work in the first place which is what makes this type of work satisfying.
8 The biggest reward is when a property you photograph gets sold and its a feeling of confidence and satisfaction ( although you will not pick up the nice % made like the agents that sell but hey thats the price you pay) This job pays on per property or a fixed wage but the busier the company gets the higher your wage goes like any job increase and performance.
9 you get to understand what works and introduce new tricks working in the field, the challenges of photographing a room that is covered in mirrors to make sure your not in the shot and no flash is bouncing off any mirror or surface can be a challenge.
10 Overall this position is a rewarding one and is nice to work in a photography field that is always busy and to also get a wage doing something you like.

The Negatives:
There is not much negative not like most other jobs but this does has a few.
1 when its busy its busy, and because these bookings are made and confirmed before hand you have to make sure you monitor time to stick to each task.
2 If your work ends up bad it does not give the agents a easy task to market and sell the house so this makes you responsible
3 you will be eating all strange hours and sometimes might not eat at all , so a healthy diet when you can, plenty of fluids and sleep well specially if you have a busy day ahead.
4 If you are not a people person then it will probably not be good for you, as a photographer you will be pulled left and right by everyone so handling pressure is a must but if you are organised and make sure you get things right it is not a problem.

I work for Lawlors property service in and around the Essex area and working in this area brings many wonderful factors. Most of my clients range from a average family home right up to a 3 acre manor house, from everyday families to celebrities ( this is something else as well, when you photograph a famous persons home, your not there to ask for autographs or look amazed. Its quite hard to quietly inside feel excited but after all your there to do a job and these people do not want to be harrassed like they do outside in there own home, but an occasional text to my wife on the job telling her whos house im in doesn't hurt.

If anyone is looking for a career in this area of work i would recommend it, if your passion is for photography i would imagine you like to work in all fields. Photography is quite a hard business to get paid in so you can take what ever you can get and do other things on the side. I still have my photo business doing weddings , fashion shoots mag shoots and designing wedding albums, so i have kind of covered all areas of photography so this is still an option for many. Most important enjoy every aspect of photography, its an art to love and share.
 
I thought id add a reply to this thread. I have been a property photographer for 5 months now and i must say it has been one of the most fun jobs i have done in photography although weddings is my best. This job position however enjoyable it is comes with a high price. There are times when it does get very busy and lunch is occasionally eaten with the left hand while the right hand is on the mouse, or eating while on my way to a job. However the good points of this type of job is:
1 You spend half your time in office at your desk and the other half on the road and on location so its a mix of both worlds.
2 You get to meet lots of different people while you work, some people are happy to just let you get on with it and you dont hear a thing , others like to have a chit chat so its a good social job.
3 you get to see some amazing homes and understand many different peoples way of living ( inside your mind you judge what you like and dont like but still maintain a professional manner after all you are representing your office and company.
4 your camera skills and editing skills will improve every day. on average i shoot 2 to 4 properties a day depending on size taking anything from a hundred to 300 photos each day out of these probably 40% get edited so you are always improving you craft which will help you in other areas of photography.
5 each job is different and you face different challenges, obviously the most common like in all photography jobs is lighting. Maintaining the correct lighting to show the colors is important and making sure the room is well lit so detail is there and is attractive to the viewer.
6 being an online market its nice to see your properties piling up on the internet and knowing that thousands of people will see your work.
7 when interest is shown in a property from a potential buyer its nice to know they was attracted to your work in the first place which is what makes this type of work satisfying.
8 The biggest reward is when a property you photograph gets sold and its a feeling of confidence and satisfaction ( although you will not pick up the nice % made like the agents that sell but hey thats the price you pay) This job pays on per property or a fixed wage but the busier the company gets the higher your wage goes like any job increase and performance.
9 you get to understand what works and introduce new tricks working in the field, the challenges of photographing a room that is covered in mirrors to make sure your not in the shot and no flash is bouncing off any mirror or surface can be a challenge.
10 Overall this position is a rewarding one and is nice to work in a photography field that is always busy and to also get a wage doing something you like.

The Negatives:
There is not much negative not like most other jobs but this does has a few.
1 when its busy its busy, and because these bookings are made and confirmed before hand you have to make sure you monitor time to stick to each task.
2 If your work ends up bad it does not give the agents a easy task to market and sell the house so this makes you responsible
3 you will be eating all strange hours and sometimes might not eat at all , so a healthy diet when you can, plenty of fluids and sleep well specially if you have a busy day ahead.
4 If you are not a people person then it will probably not be good for you, as a photographer you will be pulled left and right by everyone so handling pressure is a must but if you are organised and make sure you get things right it is not a problem.

I work for Lawlors property service in and around the Essex area and working in this area brings many wonderful factors. Most of my clients range from a average family home right up to a 3 acre manor house, from everyday families to celebrities ( this is something else as well, when you photograph a famous persons home, your not there to ask for autographs or look amazed. Its quite hard to quietly inside feel excited but after all your there to do a job and these people do not want to be harrassed like they do outside in there own home, but an occasional text to my wife on the job telling her whos house im in doesn't hurt.

If anyone is looking for a career in this area of work i would recommend it, if your passion is for photography i would imagine you like to work in all fields. Photography is quite a hard business to get paid in so you can take what ever you can get and do other things on the side. I still have my photo business doing weddings , fashion shoots mag shoots and designing wedding albums, so i have kind of covered all areas of photography so this is still an option for many. Most important enjoy every aspect of photography, its an art to love and share.

Out of curiosity what editing do you do? I thought there were restrictions due to mus representing the property.
 
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