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Hi ! All I`m hoping some one can help me out , [ don`t say theres the door ]
I have an epson R2400 A3 printer that is not printing what is one my moniter screen I am using photoshop cs5. I noticed there was a problem after changing to a computer using windows 7 O.S. I have down loaded an updated driver which has not made a difference . I have set the print options to " let the printer dicide colours " and " let photoshop dicide colours " niether of which have given good results . Ihave also down loaded printer profiles and different paper profiles . but the printer seems to print the same or with only a small difference . I would glad to know how you have set up your printer. Thanks
 
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You need to calibrate your monitor and printer, no real other way about it if you want to print at home and have accurate colour.
 
Without calibrating your monitor you have little chance of getting a good match. You need a device such at the Pantone Spyder, or similar to do a proper job.

As a fix you could use the correction tools within the 2400's driver, but you need to have "Printer manages Colour" set to access these. They are under the advanced tab. Whilst they will give some help you may still find some colours still don't look right. Calibration is the only answer for this
 
Buy yourself a spyder 3 express or pro (£65/95)
That will set up your monitor and you can then print from the same profile:)
 
I just sold a Spyder2 which you can pick up pretty cheaply if you search around. The Spyder3 will do a similar job (but quicker|) :)

I bought a colormunki so I could calibrate both monitors and my Epson R2400.

What you could do easily is buy some paper from Fotospeed and/or Permajet who offer free custom profiles for your printer. Very easy to do and this will provide that your printer is outputing the correct colours - If they still look off you will know it's your monitor that needs edited.

When you set Photoshop to decide, you need to switch off ICM in the printer settings. Leaving that on means Photoshop and your printer driver are colour managing the print - this is bad! It should be only one.

Are you using the proper paper with the proper profile?

I love my R2400 :)
 
Thanks all , I do use a panatone moitor calibrater , and set the right paper , and printer profiles . Things where fine untill I went over to windows 7 I had to down load a new printer driver at the time , but I didnt notice a problem untill I tried to print a photo with more subtle tones . Still need help please .
 
I had hair tearing problems with a R2880 when I got a new computer. My problem was that images were consistantly too dark despite updating everything in sight.

Can you describe what your issue is a little more clearly? Are the images too dark? are the colours the wrong shade?
 
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I had hair tearing problems with a R2880 when I got a new computer. My problem was that images were consistantly too dark despite updating everything in sight.

Can you describe what your issue is a little more clearly? Are the images too dark? are the colours the wrong shade?
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Thanks for replying woof woof looks like your problem was the same as mine , yes prints are comming out a lot darker than what is displayed on screen . I use a lap top but have a seperate flat screen for viewing both of which have been calabrated I have had to compensate on screen making things lighter on screen knowing that the printer will make them darker . This is of coarse just guessing the final result which is no good at all I would be very interested to learn how you overcame your problem and what setting you use .
 
It does sound like what I went through and if you Google "Epson dark prints" you'll see that we're not alone... Great prints, but some people say they're just way too dark.

I was and still am convinced that calibrating the monitor is nothing to do with Epson dark prints and downloading all of the latest drivers and profiles had no effect on my problem. Prints that were great with a HP printer and Compaq pc came out too dark when printed on the Epson via another pc despite all settings and drivers and profiles looking ok.

Eventually I decided that it was pointless trying to work out exactly what was going on and no one else seems to have an answer other than to download the latest stuff and calibrate the monitor so I looked for and found a simple fix that works for me (remember that I have a different printer, a R2880) I tweaked the image brightness in custom settings and I now do a small practice print before printing for real.

So that's what works for me... I leave the print brightness to + a couple of points and before printing an image I do a small thumbnail print to check for dark print issue and tweak accordingly but the vast majority of prints that I do need nothing more than this couple of points compensation and my prints now look accurate.
 
What you need to do is match the monitor brightness to the same level as your room

It's possible that the calibrator is setting this higher than you need. If you can set it manually, try around 120Cd/M2. If the prints are then too light, increase this value, by about 10 units until you get a good brightness match. If the prints are too dark still decrease.
 
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What you need to do is match the monitor brightness to the same level as your room

It's possible that the calibrator is setting this higher than you need. If you can set it manually, try around 120Cd/M2. If the prints are then too light, increase this value, by about 10 units until you get a good brightness match. If the prints are too dark still decrease.
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I don't think that that's it at all and I spent way too long going down that route. Images that are well exposed when you take the shot should print as well exposed images, not images that are too dark. If you don't alter the exposure post capture screen brightness should have nothing to do with it.

When I went through all this images that printed perfectly well on one pc and printer were simply way too dark when printed on the Epson. It seems to be a known Epson issue.

Anyway, good luck Cornish Chris. I hope that my simple fix works for you too.
 
Are you using cusrtom made profiles for your own machine? Not the default ones you download?

Is ICM off when you print?
 
EOS JD ...Yes I`ve got the right profiles , I`ve tried ICM on and off and every other combination I can think of . I am wasting a lot of time , ink and paper if I had hair I would pull it out . Is it possible that changing to windows 7 has created this problem ?>
 
windows 7 does seem to have problems regarding profiling.

a google search should give you some pointers

cornish chris said:
Thanks all , I do use a panatone moitor calibrater , and set the right paper , and printer profiles . Things where fine untill I went over to windows 7 I had to down load a new printer driver at the time , but I didnt notice a problem untill I tried to print a photo with more subtle tones . Still need help please .
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I'm using W7 and have no issues with my R2400. Profiled with custom profiles from Fotospeed (and some with my colormunki) and monitor profiled with my colormunki (and previously with a Spyder2)

Is there any other software running like Adobe Gamma or the like? All that should be removed - Anything that affects your monitor's output should be removed except the profile generated by your hardware device.
 
EOS JD I`m glad your prints are being produced corectly . However if you google Epson dark prints there is one hell of alot of people who got the same problem ,My printer also printed well at one time but now it is going to take a one way trip to the skip .
 
cornish chris said:
EOS JD I`m glad your prints are being produced corectly . However if you google Epson dark prints there is one hell of alot of people who got the same problem ,My printer also printed well at one time but now it is going to take a one way trip to the skip .
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Really? Are you sure you are printing correctly?

Custom profile
ICM off
Profiled monitor
 
DID ALL OF THE ABOVE..... SCRAPED THE EPSON GOT A CANON PRINTED CORECTLY FIRST TIME , JOB DONE.... NO MORE WASTING TIME AND INK . EPSON R2400 IS NOW IN A LANDFILL SITE WHERE I IT IS BEST SUITED . ..... BUT THANKS ALL FOR TRYING TO HELP .
 
Sadly I did the same with my Epson printers a long time ago. Ended up with a Pixma 9000 mk2.
Took it out of the box, set it up and did a print nearly perfect first time.
Calibrated it with my spyder and could hardly tell the difference.

I personally think it's a driver issue with Epsons which is sad.
 
I sense your anger...

I was like Basil Fawlty on acid over the dark print issue and I doubt I'll ever buy another Epson and I'll certainly Google for complaints before buying another printer.

Whatever the issue is with Epson printers it seems to be subtle and to be honest there's so much of this issue on the net I'm amazed that Epson haven't issued a fix or a statement. I did try emailing them and they were... worse than useless.
 
I contacted Epson and they said that there could be a problem with windows 7 but when I replied I had the same problem using their previous o/s they didn`t reply I pesonaly think Epson are ****. [techical term ]
 
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