Englands fastest speeders

I'm not bothered by people doing that speed on empty motorways, provided its dry and visibility is good. I value my licence too much to get anywhere close to 100 on the motorway, so I wouldn't do it myself - if I want to take my car up to it's maximum speed (161mph, according to the manufacturer) I'll go to Germany.

I'm way more bothered by the person doing 90+ in a 30 limit.
 
96 mph in a 30 mph zone is bit over the top.
 
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96 in a 30 I agree is not on.It'll be 30 for a reason too, just bonkers

I did close to 149 on an empty quiet motorway, got 20months, but they charged for dangerous automatically in Scotland once above 100mph
 
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PC Mark Milton - 159mph on the M54, 89mph through 30 zones whilst familiarising himself with a new forces vehicle in the early hours of the morning

I believe he crashed again a couple of years ago after doing 108 in a 40 zone, whilst being dazzled by a light in the corner of his vision. Apparently the court was told that speed was not a contributory factor.

Do the Police not show up on the figures then ;)
 
ST4 said:
96 in a 30 I agree is not on.It'll be 30 for a reason too, just bonkers

I did close to 149 on an empty quiet motorway, got 20months, but they charged for dangerous automatically in Scotland once above 100mph
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Just like the 70mph on other roads is there for a reason, regardless of conditions. Unless it is within your job profile to be able to do so, if you speed and get caught, you take your chances on the outcome.
 
ST4 said:
Dibble said it was ok, so it must be...LOL
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Wasn't he "blinded by the light"?
I didn't realise that song titles were admissible as a defence :D

Gaz J said:
He was trained in firearms as well. Lets be thankful he didnt feel the need to practice those skills :eek:
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:D

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So what great logical reason is it based on then?
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Isn't it allegedly an AC Cobra doing 150( or something) MPH
on the M1?

Edit, was it really that long ago?
1965: Britain’s 70mph top speed limit was imposed on motorways – in what was supposed to be only a temporary measure.
(And was made permanent 2 years later)
 
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I want to know who manages to get more than 50 on the M25. I don't think the traffic round Swanley moves fast enough :lol:
 
kelack said:
I want to know who manages to get more than 50 on the M25. I don't think the traffic round Swanley moves fast enough :LOL:
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Get up early enough and it's more than possible, The last time I was on the M25 I was the only car on it so I could have easily got well into the naughty speeds...I didn't but I cold have that was about 3-4am on a Sunday morning
 
Mikesphotaes said:
So what great logical reason is it based on then?
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The roads can be used by modern powerful cars and old cars alike, the latter may well be able to achieve some higher speeds but their brakes and handling will pale in comparison to modern machinery. You only need to see the driving standards of some to realise that allowing people to drive faster is not a good idea, even though I would like to see the speed limit raised to 80mph at least. Plus not everyone is comfortable at travelling at high speed although I do feel they should be driving as fast as lorries not slower.
 
Cobra said:
Wasn't he "blinded by the light"?
I didn't realise that song titles were admissible as a defence :D


:D


Isn't it allegedly an AC Cobra doing 150( or something) MPH
on the M1?

Edit, was it really that long ago?
1965: Britain’s 70mph top speed limit was imposed on motorways – in what was supposed to be only a temporary measure.
(And was made permanent 2 years later)
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I thought it was an E Type Jag.
 
kelack said:
I want to know who manages to get more than 50 on the M25. I don't think the traffic round Swanley moves fast enough :LOL:
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It is possible, last Tuesday at 11:30 AM. I drove to Gatwick, It was 70mph on cruise control all the way there apart from the Dartford Crossing, which isn't technically part of the M25. Couldn't return the same way as there had been an accident at the south side Crossing approach, so I continued the long way around the M25, cruise control on 70mph all the way apart from the roadworks section on the north side, then back up to 70mph again.
 
There used to be the 60 min club for the whole lap, although that was shortly after it opened.
 
nilagin said:
It is possible, last Tuesday at 11:30 AM. I drove to Gatwick, It was 70mph on cruise control all the way there apart from the Dartford Crossing, which isn't technically part of the M25. Couldn't return the same way as there had been an accident at the south side Crossing approach, so I continued the long way around the M25, cruise control on 70mph all the way apart from the roadworks section on the north side, then back up to 70mph again.
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:lol: I must have the bad luck to always hit it when it's at a standstill. Usually when I go from the M20 to the A2 using the Swanley interchange bit.
 
Cobra said:
Isn't it allegedly an AC Cobra doing 150( or something) MPH
on the M1?

Edit, was it really that long ago?
1965: Britain’s 70mph top speed limit was imposed on motorways – in what was supposed to be only a temporary measure.
(And was made permanent 2 years later)
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I remember the incident as a kid, AC were testing their Le Mans cars on the M1. Next day Giles had one of his great cartoons in The Express...........
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I got charged with doing 73 mph in a 30 zone on my motorbike. Before sentence the Judge asked me why on earth I was doing that speed in a built up area. I told him I was slowing down for the Traffic Lights.:rolleyes:
 
nilagin said:
The roads can be used by modern powerful cars and old cars alike, the latter may well be able to achieve some higher speeds but their brakes and handling will pale in comparison to modern machinery. You only need to see the driving standards of some to realise that allowing people to drive faster is not a good idea, even though I would like to see the speed limit raised to 80mph at least. Plus not everyone is comfortable at travelling at high speed although I do feel they should be driving as fast as lorries not slower.
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Yep lets get some lane discipline going (that law seems to be working as well as the mobile phone "ban")
Compulsory driving on motorways instruction once the normal test has been passed,
and get the speed limit up to a more sensible limit,
for those that are confident of driving at higher speeds.
After all, like everything, technology has moved on,
From the Mini's, MKI cortina's Ford angulars, Austin 1100's et al of the mid 60's


nilagin said:
I thought it was an E Type Jag.
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TBH I'm not sure, either way. You could be right.
 
Farmerjim said:
I remember the incident as a kid, AC were testing their Le Mans cars on the M1. Next day Giles had one of his great cartoons in The Express...........
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LOL OK that sorted that then :thumbs:
 
BRASH said:
I got charged with doing 73 mph in a 30 zone on my motorbike. Before sentence the Judge asked me why on earth I was doing that speed in a built up area. I told him I was slowing down for the Traffic Lights.:rolleyes:
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Very sensible, you didn't want to go through a "red" and break the law did you? :D
 
Cobra said:
Isn't it allegedly an AC Cobra doing 150( or something) MPH
on the M1?

Edit, was it really that long ago?
1965: Britain’s 70mph top speed limit was imposed on motorways – in what was supposed to be only a temporary measure.
(And was made permanent 2 years later)
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Like everything on the internet, not quite true!

AC were certainly caught testing their longtailed LeMans cars on the M1 at, IIRC 174mph, but the 70mph limit was actually introduced a year later as typical panic legislation by Barbara Castle, who was the Labour Government's non-driving Minister of Transport in response to a series of motorway accidents that took place, in dense fog and at speeds less than 70mph! :rolleyes:
 
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Yves Geza said:
Like everything on the internet, not quite true!
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Ah but that was from memory, not an internet search ;)
Yves Geza said:
but the 70mph limit was actually introduced a year later as typical panic legislation by Barbara Castle, who was the Labour Government's non-driving Minister of Transport in response to a series of motorway accidents that took place, in dense fog and at speeds less than 70mph! :rolleyes:
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Why doesn't that surprise me?
Yet another knee jerk re-action from those without the facts ;)
(or trying to catch votes ;) )
 
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ST4 said:
So other than someones silly reaction to an incident that went without harm, we are stuck at some arbitrary number picked in the late 60's...

Makes total sense.
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And of course in the mid '60's 70mph was actually quite quick.
So we need to move with the times ;)
 
130kmph is the limit set in europe, and what german advises as a safe maximum, so 80mph. America introduced a toll road with an 85mph maximum.

I prefer the german option with an advised maximum of 130k but its not illegal to go above
 
On a speed awareness course I went on the other day I was advisd that the stopping distance for a car in a good mechanical condition and driven by a Class 1 Police driver stops in the same distance now as it did when the Highway Code was first written, possibly excluding "thinking" time. The reason being that although brakes, tyres, road grip etc have got better cars have got a lot heavier and so one cancels the other. Given that car diving ability hasnt gone up dramatically and human brains can only process information at the same speed it seems non sensical to raise the speed limit for general conditions, in fact lowering it might be better. In clear dry empty road conditions it would seem logical to increase it (or as above make it advisory), but in most situations until someone can explain why the M25 is jammed up due to accidents when its mid-summer, dry and perfect driving conditions I'll take 70 as more than fast enough for most people's ability, or lack of. Then again maybe they are on the phone or texting and not paying attention, either way 70 is more than fast enough it would seem and until they stop crashing into each other I doubt politicians/safety experts will raise the bar.

Matt
 
MatBin said:
Then again maybe they are on the phone or texting and not paying attention, either way 70 is more than fast enough it would seem and until they stop crashing into each other I doubt politicians/safety experts will raise the bar.

Matt
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I maybe remembering the facts wrong, but don't most accidents happen within a couple of miles from home,
and at speeds of approx 30MPH?
Someone with more patience than me will surly google that :)
 
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Mikesphotaes said:
So what great logical reason is it based on then?
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The 70MPH limit was introduced in this country on the 1970's during a fuel shortage in order to reduce consumption. Before that, the national speed limit sign meant no limit.

EDIT: My memory is not what it was. It would appear that before the 1974 petrol shortage, the limit on dual carriageways was 70 and was then reduced to 60.


Steve.
 
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Steve Smith said:
The 70MPH limit was introduced in this country on the 1970's during a fuel shortage in order to reduce consumption. Before that, the national speed limit sign meant no limit.
Steve.
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Thats already been cleared up Steve ;)
Besides There was definitely a 70MPH limit in force well before I started driving,
in the early 70's

Cobra said:
1965: Britain’s 70mph top speed limit was imposed on motorways – in what was supposed to be only a temporary measure.
(And was made permanent 2 years later)
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Yves Geza said:
r as typical panic legislation by Barbara Castle, who was the Labour Government's non-driving Minister of Transport in response to a series of motorway accidents that took place, in dense fog and at speeds less than 70mph! :rolleyes:
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Cobra said:
I maybe remembering the facts wrong, but don't most accidents happen within a couple of miles from home,
and at speeds of approx 30MPH?
Someone with more patience than me will surly google that :)
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You know it's funny you should say that, I've been in two serious and two minor crashes 3 happened within 5 minutes of my home...and the fourth happened about a minute from my second home at the time, the rugby club I used to manage

Edit: and no I wasn't driving for all of them
 
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Before that, the national speed limit sign meant no limit.

:oops: :$ I thought it still meant that.
 
Cobra said:
Thats already been cleared up Steve ;)
Besides There was definitely a 70MPH limit in force well before I started driving,
in the early 70's
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Yes. I was editing my reply whilst you were writing yours. 1965 was the 70 limit on motorways.


Steve.
 
Now, before I start I should point out that I do like driving fast, mainly corner speed than in a straight line, a done quite a few days on race tracks.

However, with regards to the speed limit I did notice while in Canada a few years ago where the limit was 55 mph on the highway/motorway that mostly everyone obeyed the speed limit and the traffic moved freely, even through 'rush hour'.
We were there (Toronto) while the G10 summit was on and there were snap road blocks when the delegates were being driven around. We would be stopped for a few minutes then all the traffic would just move on steadily once the road was opened again, everything seemed to be done calmly and with minimal delay.
A contributory factor I believe was the ability to overtake in any lane, there was no 'overtake on the right' (or left as they drive on the other side of the road) which meant no perceived lane hogging and therefore no long queue in the outside lane waiting to pass the driver doing 5 mph below the limit.

In conclusion, the speed limit in this country may not be the factor for traffic jams or accidents. If all drivers stuck to the speed limit, no matter what that limit was, and the overtaking rules where changed to do away with 'lane hogging' then the traffic would most likely move a lot smoother and everyone would complete their journey quicker. Oh and it would also be a more economical and greener too. Doubt it will ever happen though.
 
PaulF said:
In conclusion, the speed limit in this country may not be the factor for traffic jams or accidents. If all drivers stuck to the speed limit, no matter what that limit was, and the overtaking rules where changed to do away with 'lane hogging' then the traffic would most likely move a lot smoother and everyone would complete their journey quicker. .
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You mean like viariable speed limits on the M25 ?
(and other areas now)

Yeah that is a huge success, :D
 
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