Englands fastest speeders

Gaz J said:
People get hung up on the posted speed limit and dont concentrate on the driving conditions.
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+1. There are times when it would be fine to drive at 70+mph on the motorway and times when it'd be dangerous to go above 40mph. Ditto for normal roads. The driving conditions such as weather, road surface, traffic, population etc all come together.
 
Gaz J said:
Just think of the speed ths cops would have to do to catch someone driving like that in fog. That would be dangerous.
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they'd just intercept them at the next junction , radio waves go a lot faster than even the fastest dangerous driver.

Also a lot of dangerous driving charges come after some cock has crashed and hurt/killed himself or others - if you manage to drive like a total prat in the fog without crashing you won't (probably) get done - this doesnt make it legal it just means you've got away with it. However when the law of averages catches up with you and you stack it into another car... you'll get charged and rightly so
 
MatBin said:
commonplace on the M25, soon as I try and slow down to the overhead speed limit sign (which of course is apparently not a real speed limit, try explaining that one to a magistrate)
Matt
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it is a real and enforceable speed limit if it has a red circle around it .
 
big soft moose said:
they'd just intercept them at the next junction , radio waves go a lot faster than even the fastest dangerous driver.

Also a lot of dangerous driving charges come after some cock has crashed and hurt/killed himself or others - if you manage to drive like a total prat in the fog without crashing you won't (probably) get done - this doesnt make it legal it just means you've got away with it. However when the law of averages catches up with you and you stack it into another car... you'll get charged and rightly so
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No such thing as the law of averages
 
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As far as the polis are concerned, my humble opinion is that Class 1 Police Drivers are certainly trained to an exceptionally high standard, far above us mere mortals!

As far as the 70mph limit is concerned, it is a totally arbitray number with little relevance to today's roads and cars.
 
Gaz J said:
No such thing as the law of averages
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sigh - if you drive like a prat in dangerous conditions and rely on luck not to have an accident - the more occasions on which you drive like an utter cock in adverse conditions, the greater the odds both of you stacking it into an innocent motorist, and of you getting pulled over by the dibble. This is what the law of averages means.
 
viv1969 said:
I'm tired of people bleating about being punished for breaking the law. If they don't like it,fine...campaign against it.
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Me too. People moan about being caught out by speed cameras and make out that they are victims rather than criminals.


Steve.
 
Mikesphotaes said:
standard, far above us mere mortals!

As far as the 70mph limit is concerned, it is a totally arbitray number with little relevance to today's roads and cars.
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Jesus......that doesn't matter....it's still the LAW.
I swear some people actually need to sustain a head injury to understand reality.
 
neil_g said:
how those guys get to 200mph carrying what i assume are HUGE balls around is beyond me?!
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Have you watched "Closer to the edge?" (Film about TT with Guy Martin.. normal bloke (though a bit tapped).. get him on a bike and nutter... the one thing I remember (other than ducking and me moving away from lampposts, was his big fiery accident.. where he ended up breaking lots of things that made up his skeleton.. "....ah well, could have been worse. I could have been dead."
 
Lynton said:
Have you watched "Closer to the edge?" (Film about TT with Guy Martin.. normal bloke (though a bit tapped).. get him on a bike and nutter... the one thing I remember (other than ducking and me moving away from lampposts, was his big fiery accident.. where he ended up breaking lots of things that made up his skeleton.. "....ah well, could have been worse. I could have been dead."
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Yes, excellent film. Guy is fantastic character and a total loon! :D
 
viv1969 said:
Jesus......that doesn't matter....it's still the LAW.
I swear some people actually need to sustain a head injury to understand reality.
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We're talking about the relevance of the law in today's society. Law progresses with society.

We no longer drown witches, have laws against homosexuality etc, maybe it's time the speed limits were looked at to see if they are still suitable.
 
ST4 said:
We're talking about the relevance of the law in today's society. Law progresses with society.

We no longer drown witches, have laws against homosexuality etc, maybe it's time the speed limits were looked at to see if they are still suitable.
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Then try to do something about it other than bitchin'.....innit.
 
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I do agree that modern cars are capable of being driven faster than 70mph quite safely
The problem is though that some people drive like prats, tailgating and doing stupid maneuvers so I think that the limit should stay as it is
 
We're talking about the relevance of the law in today's society. Law progresses with society.

We no longer drown witches, have laws against homosexuality etc, maybe it's time the speed limits were looked at to see if they are still suitable.
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It is constantly reviewed, and to put it into simple terms for you, while people drive like cocks, the limits will stay.

You want the limits to be increased then driver standards need to be a great deal better. Now, like all divers, I am sure you think you are something special when it comes to driving, I wonder of that was independently tested if you mouth matches your ability?
 
Bernie174 said:
It is constantly reviewed, and to put it into simple terms for you, while people drive like cocks, the limits will stay.

You want the limits to be increased then driver standards need to be a great deal better. Now, like all divers, I am sure you think you are something special when it comes to driving, I wonder of that was independently tested if you mouth matches your ability?
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Are the French or Germans all stigs, or do they cope fine with 80mph or is it a total blood bath over there...just sayin'
 
just wondering if anyone here considers themselves to be a crap driver ?

I'll not be holding my breath waiting for the hand to go up
 
ST4 said:
Are the French or Germans all stigs, or do they cope fine with 80mph or is it a total blood bath over there...just sayin'
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See what you mean but maybe they dont get the prats like we do that cause accidents, I dont know I haven't driven on the continent
It's not speed thats the problem, I like going for it on my bike, it the few bad drivers that do stupid things that cause accidents and make life harder for every one else
 
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donut said:
just wondering if anyone here considers themselves to be a crap driver ?

I'll not be holding my breath waiting for the hand to go up
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I like to think that I'm safe but am far from perfect
I'm crap at reversing and parallel parking:D
 
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And to debunk your theory about Germany & France, read the numbers.

This is in spite of the Germany having much tougher driving standards than the UK has!

http://www.abd.org.uk/safest_roads.htm

What makes you qualified to say I am not or indeed we'd not be safe at 80, 90, 100 even. Works well overseas.
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Well, leaving aside your history of poor driving judgment, the speed issue, nothing. Then again, I wasn't commenting at that point on your driving, just trying to establish your qualification for making the statement about changing laws. You have answered that, you have none.

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Leaving personal insults aside, we're four pages in and no one has given a valid reason as to why the speed limits need to be increased :thinking:
 
Bernie174 said:
And to debunk your theory about Germany & France, read the numbers.

This is in spite of the Germany having much tougher driving standards than the UK has!

http://www.abd.org.uk/safest_roads.htm



Well, leaving aside your history of poor driving judgment, the speed issue, nothing. Then again, I wasn't commenting at that point on your driving, just trying to establish your qualification for making the statement about changing laws. You have answered that, you have none.

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I am ok with the numbers overseas - it's hardly a blood bath, maybe I should live there, journey times would go down, fuel revenues would go up, people would enjoy driving more. You've not stated why they shouldn't go up. Motorway limits are so rarely obeyed, are we really criminalising the a huge chunk of the population?
 
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So, because lots of people disobey the law, it should be changed? Seriously?!

Tell you what, let's make murder less of a crime as well whilst we're at it. I mean, lots of people ignore that law too...

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Simmotino said:
So, because lots of people disobey the law, it should be changed? Seriously?!

Tell you what, let's make murder less if a crime as well whilst we're at it. I mean, lots of people ignore that law too...

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Look how well probibition worked in 1920's America. I'd love to see prohibition work over here, but such a petty thing as 10mph here or there is in no way comparible to legalising murder, just updating with the times and trends of the normal population
 
ST4 said:
We're talking about the relevance of the law in today's society. Law progresses with society.

We no longer drown witches, have laws against homosexuality etc, maybe it's time the speed limits were looked at to see if they are still suitable.
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They have and do that's why lower speed limits get imposed around schools.
 
ST4 said:
Look how well probibition worked in 1920's America. I'd love to see prohibition work over here, but such a petty thing as 10mph here or there is in no way comparible to legalising murder, just updating with the times and trends of the normal population
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But where will the "petty 10mph" end? Once we have 80, others will want 90, then 100 etc. etc. etc.
 
nilagin said:
But where will the "petty 10mph" end? Once we have 80, others will want 90, then 100 etc. etc. etc.
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You could enforce the 80 more rigerously and not such generous leeways as it is. As it were, I doubt dibble would pull you for 80 on a clear mway. Most don't do 90 or 100. Eventually if we did in future years see a 90 or 100mph limit, so what?
 
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