EF 24-70 f2.8 II pic

Ok I have to ask, lens servicing? Its the first I've heard of that.
What do they do?
How often are you 'supposed' to do it?
Only after dropping?
What problem will you notice to indicate you need it done?

I've the original 24-70 and got it and camera calibrated upon purchase and noticing back-focus issues.

Since then nothing.

And as for the new 24-70...
- 82mm will be expensive on filters.
- Its certainly not a prime but the original still produces decent images.
- IS would have allowed you to get shots you previously would not have and its that additional functionality which may have tempted me.
 
POAH said:
MTFs on the USA site look pretty impressive
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They do :)

Old
http://usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/ef_lens_lineup/ef_24_70mm_f_2_8l_usm

New
http://usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/ef_lens_lineup/ef_24_70mm_f_2_8l_ii_usm

Scroll down a bit. For those unfamiliar with MTF graphs, it's the thin dark and dark-dashed lines that are most telling, and the higher up they are, especially on the right of the graph (towards the edges of the frame). For a lens of this spec, it doesn't get much better than this new one.
 
Wont be looking to replace mine....It's spot on and does everything I want from it ! Why fix something that isn't broken !
 
Well not necessarily broken as such but I understood there to be an issue with the optics determining the megapixel count/resolution of cameras. Could this be a step towards addressing that?
 
Deadlock said:
Ok I have to ask, lens servicing? Its the first I've heard of that.
What do they do?
How often are you 'supposed' to do it?
Only after dropping?
What problem will you notice to indicate you need it done?
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Lenses don't need regular maintenance / servicing like a car does. It's only an issue if something goes wrong and you need it fixed.

What might go wrong? Well, apart from damage caused by drops, impacts and other abuse, I've experienced the following types of failures and problems:
  • AF failure
  • IS failure
  • lubricant leakage
  • sticky iris
  • uneven or sticky zoom mechanism due to worn bearings
  • uneven or sticky focus mechanism due to worn bearings
  • electronics communication problems
  • sections of lens barrel working loose
  • bits falling out/off (screws, knobs, etc.)
  • and probably quite a few others!!!

But if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
 
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POAH said:
thats not going to be the price after its actually released. these pre orders are normally at MRP which is a far cry from street price
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I was trying to remember if the 70-200/2.8 II dropped from the RRP at WEX before it was released.

I seem to think it was something like £2799 RRP.
 
bigrob said:
I was trying to remember if the 70-200/2.8 II dropped from the RRP at WEX before it was released.

I seem to think it was something like £2799 RRP.
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Yes it did.

I can't remember the exact date when it became available. It was announced on 5th Jan 2010, when the UK press release said "available from the end of February" and the US press release said "scheduled to be delivered to US dealers in April". So it's probably fair to assume that it hit the shops some time around March 2010, give or take a month.

And by that time, according to Camera Price Buster, the price had already dropped to £2450 (10% below RRP) or thereabouts in some shops. It went down to about £2200 (20% below RRP) by early April, but then it got stuck there the whole summer.

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Thanks Steward.

If this lens is as good as the 70-200/2.8 II then at £1500 I'd be interested.
 
I'm still wondering what's happened to the 200-400mm with the 1.4x converter that was announced ages ago! :shrug:
 
Spiritflier said:
I'm still wondering what's happened to the 200-400mm with the 1.4x converter that was announced ages ago! :shrug:
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Was pictured recently in use with a 1D X and the anticipated 5D3/X so it's coming.
 
It's a bit disappointing there is no IS- Tamron managed it so I wonder what Canon's issue is- it just sends out mixed messages- especially when you are releasing primes with IS. The weight saving could have been offset by the IS and you'd be back up at mkI territory weight which isn't exactly that bad all things considered.

It would have been a useful feature to have in certain situations- unless of course it's in the body of the 5d mkIII giving both options- now that would be an interesting revolution but sadly a bold move that I cannot see Canon or Nikon to that matter doing.
 
Hopefully with this being released I'll be able to afford the current 24-70mm!
 
StewartR said:
But if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Cheers mate, that's good to know.

As far as the canon IS on a 24-70 is concerned, if the canon rumours site is to be believed, which has been looking pretty good imho, then there has been a field test of a 24-70 with IS which was deemed too heavy to be practical.
 
Canon Bob said:
The 17-35/2.8L was discontinued in 2001 and the 28-70/2.8L in 2002 but both were serviced by Canon until December 2010....worry not.

Bob
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I've read on one site somewhere that part of the reason for the new 24 and 28, was that the tsunami destroyed all Canons spare parts for the older focusing motors, so a total remap of lens upgrades was needed.

This could effect any of the available older designs for servicing.
 
acetone said:
I've read on one site somewhere that part of the reason for the new 24 and 28, was that the tsunami destroyed all Canons spare parts for the older focusing motors, so a total remap of lens upgrades was needed.

This could effect any of the available older designs for servicing.
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That sounds silly. Even if all the parts were destroyed (which is possible), all it is is an excuse to redesign older lenses - they could equally easily resume manufacturing old parts to build the original lenses, surely?
 
acetone said:
I've read on one site somewhere that part of the reason for the new 24 and 28, was that the tsunami destroyed all Canons spare parts for the older focusing motors, so a total remap of lens upgrades was needed.

This could effect any of the available older designs for servicing.
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Tosh.
 
POAH said:
huge gap in optical design though - a 70-200 f4 designed now would be sharper
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With that principle in mind, could it be assumed in turn that the optics with the new 24-70mm will be far better than the older one?
 
gman said:
With that principle in mind, could it be assumed in turn that the optics with the new 24-70mm will be far better than the older one?
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Yes. Post #42.
 
Photogaz said:
How much do you reckon this will be when its released, £1400 is my upper limit.
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I recon £1700ish but Kerso may be able to get you a deal a little closer.
 
acetone said:
I've read on one site somewhere that part of the reason for the new 24 and 28, was that the tsunami destroyed all Canons spare parts for the older focusing motors, so a total remap of lens upgrades was needed.

This could effect any of the available older designs for servicing.
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Interesting to hear that. I believe Canon no longer support the 85mm f1.8 as my CPS membership has an X through it meaning they don't cover it?!!

For the equipment to have been affected that much then I can see why they may bring out new lenses but why IS on a wide prime and not one of their mainstay lenses like the 24-70!
 
EOS_JD said:
Interesting to hear that. I believe Canon no longer support the 85mm f1.8 as my CPS membership has an X through it meaning they don't cover it?!!
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Nothing new. Mine was not supported since like 2 or 3 years ago when I joined. Oddly, the little toy 50/1.4 is supported, maybe since so many of them break
 
I can't find the list of what bodies & lenses are supported on CPS and at what level anymore. Anyone got a link?
 
looking at the canon site for this new lens the hood for the 24-70II looks very shallow and not going to be of much help at the tele end of things, now the image could be a stock image as its a brand new hood EW-88C. I like the reverse zoom of the mkI, it made a lot of sense to me.
This lens for me will really have to walk all over the mkI before i buy it, whether that be sharpness, contrast, bokeh quality. I know the mkI wasnt perfect but in many ways it was a good strong performer and serves me well.
 
Photogaz said:
How much do you reckon this will be when its released, £1400 is my upper limit.
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Pure guess on my part but I reckon not below £1999.
 
Photogaz said:
How much do you reckon this will be when its released, £1400 is my upper limit.
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EOS_JD said:
I recon £1700ish but Kerso may be able to get you a deal a little closer.
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bigrob said:
Pure guess on my part but I reckon not below £1999.
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Already answered, guys:
bigrob said:
Well WEX now have their pre-order page up

A snip at £2299(which ignoring tax) is £ for $ :thumbsdown: So much for my un-educated guess of £1999 :bonk:

http://www.warehouseexpress.com/buy-canon-ef-24-70mm-f2-8l-ii-usm-lens/p1529492
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ryanyboy said:
£2300 for a 24-70 lens!?? Blooming Flip!
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They are doing it with the longer primes as well, way more expensive than the corresponding Nikkor ... could be a clever ploy, which would see Nikkor prices drift upwards rather than Canon have to set them lower.
 
Martyn... said:
They are doing it with the longer primes as well, way more expensive than the corresponding Nikkor ... could be a clever ploy, which would see Nikkor prices drift upwards rather than Canon have to set them lower.
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I think it's just the usual tax on early-adopters.

As previously mentioned, the 70-200mm f/2.8 IS II launched at £2799, but within about 6 months it had dropped to under £1700. That's about a 40% drop. I'd expect this lens to behave similarly, which means the price should bottom out around £1375.

Remember, you read it here first.

The Mk II super-telephotos will also come down in price, but not so quickly. Canon can't easily make enough of them to cope with the demand in an Olympics year and the backlog of demand that built up because for several months there were simply none available to buy. (They announced the Mk II lenses, and stopped making the Mk I versions, just before the earthquake and tsunami.) Once this bulge in demand has been satisfied, prices will drop.
 
StewartR said:
I think it's just the usual tax on early-adopters.

As previously mentioned, the 70-200mm f/2.8 IS II launched at £2799, but within about 6 months it had dropped to under £1700. That's about a 40% drop. I'd expect this lens to behave similarly, which means the price should bottom out around £1375.

Remember, you read it here first.

The Mk II super-telephotos will also come down in price, but not so quickly. Canon can't easily make enough of them to cope with the demand in an Olympics year and the backlog of demand that built up because for several months there were simply none available to buy. (They announced the Mk II lenses, and stopped making the Mk I versions, just before the earthquake and tsunami.) Once this bulge in demand has been satisfied, prices will drop.
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40% is a fair premium for the early birds
 
StewartR said:
As previously mentioned, the 70-200mm f/2.8 IS II launched at £2799, but within about 6 months it had dropped to under £1700. That's about a 40% drop. I'd expect this lens to behave similarly, which means the price should bottom out around £1375.
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At various points over the last couple of months I've seen this lens (with instant rebate) at $1999 USD in the states, which is approx £1200 :eek:

I would expect the 24-70 II to follow a similar price pattern, so given you'd effectively get the air fare for free, maybe a nice holiday to the US is in order .... xmas shopping in NY anyone?

Either way, you really really don't want to be a British Early Adotper :bonk:
 
Xenon54 said:
At various points over the last couple of months I've seen this lens (with instant rebate) at $1999 USD in the states, which is approx £1200 :eek:

I would expect the 24-70 II to follow a similar price pattern, so given you'd effectively get the air fare for free, maybe a nice holiday to the US is in order .... xmas shopping in NY anyone?

Either way, you really really don't want to be a British Early Adotper :bonk:
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USD equivalent to £1200 actually means £1400+ over here - RIP off britain springs to mine.
 
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