Ebola Virus

It's not a vaccine. A vaccine prevents one from contacting a disease. Antivirals treat a disease already caught.
 
viv1969 said:
It's not a vaccine. A vaccine prevents one from contacting a disease. Antivirals treat a disease already caught.
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not quite true - Giving a vaccine after innital exposure stimulates the immune system quicker than the actual disease does. hence why people get a tetnus or rabies shot.
 
POAH said:
not quite true - Giving a vaccine after innital exposure stimulates the immune system quicker than the actual disease does. hence why people get a tetnus or rabies shot.
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Ya learn something new every day. Ta. (y)
 
Stuart M said:
Poor sod is still dead. How is that good news ... for him, at least.
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viv1969 said:
It's not a vaccine. A vaccine prevents one from contacting a disease. Antivirals treat a disease already caught.
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That's what I like about this forum, never miss an opportunity for isolating a single point in order to create contention!
 
gramps said:
That's what I like about this forum, never miss an opportunity for isolating a single point in order to create contention!
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Oh jesus christ, did you even bother reading past it? :rolleyes:
 
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Just read this, (in the financial press), the financial boys are now getting worried

"Given UK's status as key global hub, there is little doubt that Ebola will soon reach our shores.

In fact, earlier this week scientists at Boston's Northeastern University calculated that, based on flight patterns, there’s a 50-50 chance of it hitting Britain by October 24.

And this is a very nasty disease. The reproduction number (known scientifically as R0) is two. That means, for everyone that gets it, they’re likely to pass it on to two others. Two – four – eight – sixteen... that’s a scary progression!

In Africa, it’s killing 70% of those infected. No doubt fatalities can be brought down to under 50% with better treatment. But by gum, you don’t want to get this fella. I mean, even a disaster like the Spanish flu only culled around 2-3% of its victims!

Symptoms show after a week, and if your time is up, it’ll usually come within the following week or two. The symptoms start as a fever, but moves on to (and I’ll try to put this tastefully) liquefy your insides. The body wants to excrete/secrete this nasty disease any way it can.

And of course, all these secretions are highly infectious. A Spanish nurse caring for a sufferer caught the disease despite wearing full protection.

Heaven knows what’s going on in places like Sierra Leone, where many of the dead are reported to be lying on the street as burial teams go on strike"
 
BillN_33 said:
Just read this, (in the financial press), the financial boys are now getting worried

"Given UK's status as key global hub, there is little doubt that Ebola will soon reach our shores.

In fact, earlier this week scientists at Boston's Northeastern University calculated that, based on flight patterns, there’s a 50-50 chance of it hitting Britain by October 24.

And this is a very nasty disease. The reproduction number (known scientifically as R0) is two. That means, for everyone that gets it, they’re likely to pass it on to two others. Two – four – eight – sixteen... that’s a scary progression!

In Africa, it’s killing 70% of those infected. No doubt fatalities can be brought down to under 50% with better treatment. But by gum, you don’t want to get this fella. I mean, even a disaster like the Spanish flu only culled around 2-3% of its victims!

Symptoms show after a week, and if your time is up, it’ll usually come within the following week or two. The symptoms start as a fever, but moves on to (and I’ll try to put this tastefully) liquefy your insides. The body wants to excrete/secrete this nasty disease any way it can.

And of course, all these secretions are highly infectious. A Spanish nurse caring for a sufferer caught the disease despite wearing full protection.

Heaven knows what’s going on in places like Sierra Leone, where many of the dead are reported to be lying on the street as burial teams go on strike"
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You've been reading "Ebola Ate my Innards" or some other such tripe in Heat magazine, haven't you?
 
viv1969 said:
You've been reading "Ebola Ate my Innards" or some other such tripe in Heat magazine, haven't you?
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No it was part of an article by the usual US financial gurus obviously trying to make investment decisions based on this misery
 
Ebola doesn't "liquefy" your insides.
Symptoms don't "show up after a week. It can be as little as 2 days or an many as 21.
The Mortality rate of the 1918 outbreak of Spanish 'flu is unkown - only estimated, but even the conservative estimates are higher than 3% The true number will never be known. (I do know my Great grandmother copped for it though).

And just to really put the wind up ya.....it appears that the virus can live (and be transmissible (is that a word?) via) for up to 7 weeks in the semen of a male who has survived Ebola.
 
viv1969 said:
Ebola doesn't "liquefy" your insides.
Symptoms don't "show up after a week. It can be as little as 2 days or an many as 21.
The Mortality rate of the 1918 outbreak of Spanish 'flu is unkown - only estimated, but even the conservative estimates are higher than 3% The true number will never be known. (I do know my Great grandmother copped for it though).

And just to really put the wind up ya.....it appears that the virus can live (and be transmissible (is that a word?) via) for up to 7 weeks in the semen of a male who has survived Ebola.
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Thanks for your views, you are obviously an expert, I'll pass it on
 
ghoti said:
Look, nothing's going to happen over here. At the worst we'll get a few isolated cases in the west from people who have travelled or worked in stricken west African areas.
We'll all have forgotten about it in a few months.

The real humanitarian concern is the stretching of already inadequate healthcare infrastructure in western Africa, and the knock on effects that will have beyond dealing with ebola itself.
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well hurrah - those who like to panic unnecessarily and believe that the end is nigh can now worry about the bubonic plague outbreak in the US instead (the rest of us can realise that its been an issue in the western Us for years but isn't much of a problem for modern medicine)
 
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big soft moose said:
well hurrah - those who like to panic unnecessarily and believe that the end is nigh can now worry about the bubonic plague outbreak in the US instead (the rest of us can realise that its been an issue in the western Us for years but isn't much of a problem for modern medicine)
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Bubonic plague is endemic in North and South America, Africa and Asia; but I don't think there's been a pandemic since the 1890s? The disease responds to antibiotics, but the idea of a major outbreak involving the pneumonic form is still pretty scary.
 
It seems there is no known cure for some in here with verbal diorreah, what chance have they got of curing anything else?
 
u8myufo said:
It seems there is no known cure for some in here with verbal diorreah,
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we are using you as a test subject ,rich ... one day a cure will be found and then the rest of us can rejoice
 
MartynK said:
Bubonic plague is endemic in North and South America, Africa and Asia; but I don't think there's been a pandemic since the 1890s? The disease responds to antibiotics, but the idea of a major outbreak involving the pneumonic form is still pretty scary.
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Add to that Bubonic plague doesn't transmit from person to person unless they develop secondary pnuemonic.
 
viv1969 said:
Add to that Bubonic plague doesn't transmit from person to person unless they develop secondary pnuemonic.
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Yip. A much more dangerous type of transmission, a limited window for medical intervention, and mortality rates approaching 100%. The Sweat sounds pretty awful too, although it appeared and vanished again within about 70 - 80 years.
 
Isn't the sweat thought to have been a hanta virus ? , introduced by rats on ships carrying french mercenaries for the wars of the roses and transmitted from breathing in rodent fasces will sleeping on straw mattresses etc
 
big soft moose said:
Isn't the sweat thought to have been a hanta virus ? , introduced by rats on ships carrying french mercenaries for the wars of the roses and transmitted from breathing in rodent fasces will sleeping on straw mattresses etc
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Possibly (probably?) It's the most plausible theory I've come across, but it's not definitive. It may have been brought into England as you say, on ships carrying French mercenaries for the final phase of the Wars of the Roses, but this is also uncertain. Sounds extremely nasty, and could kill in less than 24 hours.
 
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