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I have never used ebay before so don't really understand how it works. I have just made a winning bid on an item and received an email from ebay asking me to ' complete the purchase' how is the best way to pay? I was hoping to be able to pay cash on collection but I think this email will want me to pay by card. I know I should have done my homework but I rushed into it as there were only minutes to go before the auction ended. Please help?
 
If you want to pay cash on collection, just contact the seller.
 
Thanks, I've just sent a message to the seller but it wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't reply, cant see him selling it for my low winning bid!

If he did not want to sell it cheap he should have put a reserve price on it
 
If he did not want to sell it cheap he should have put a reserve price on it
It was a no reserve sale. 10 minutes before the sale ended l made an offer of £45 but got a message from ebay saying it had been rejected so i just made a bid of £25 and won, god knows what he was thinking of. That's why i doubt I will hear from him. I don't know what the rules are on that?
 
If you have won the auction.I think the seller has to honour the sale
Although he could make out that for a 'mysterious ' reason it is now no longer available
 
If you have won the auction.I think the seller has to honour the sale
Although he could make out that for a 'mysterious ' reason it is now no longer available
ive won items that went for well below sensible money and the seller cancelled the listing and refunded (you can if you mark the item as damaged or no longer available). i leave negative feedback in that instance.
 
I've won a fair few auctions at "low" prices. Never had a problem getting the goods.
Most people just seem to accept the odd low price is part of the ebay deal.

I'd get a paypal account, pay and see what happens.

If your seller welshes report it to ebay and paypal - you will get your money back.
I've used their dispute systems a couple of times and both worked out fine.
 
This ^ PayPal, and ebay/PayPal is great, we just ordered 4 new flash heads, the seller didn’t have them, they upgraded them to the mk2 version, saving us £200 quid. Happens a lot, we had a roll of vinyl background that simply would not lie flat from bissel, they just refunded the cash of £160 because they had no more stock, and said throw the roll away, happens a lot where the seller cannot be bothered with returns etc. Moral is use ebay/PayPal more :)
 
EBay/PayPal get a cut of payment so of course they want you to use their system, is the seller aware of your pay on collection intention?
 
EBay/PayPal get a cut of payment so of course they want you to use their system, is the seller aware of your pay on collection intention?
Ebay get paid for selling the goods, PayPal get paid for offering one of the best consumer protection systems on the market, nowt wrong with that.
 
Although he could make out that for a 'mysterious ' reason it is now no longer available

The seller finally answered my third message saying he removed the auction 2 weeks ago but Ebay didn't remove it and the item is no longer available. Funny that 30 minutes before the sale ended he declined my offer of £45, dodgy story. Negative feedback left.
 
I've won a fair few auctions at "low" prices. Never had a problem getting the goods.
Most people just seem to accept the odd low price is part of the ebay deal.

I'd get a paypal account, pay and see what happens.

If your seller welshes report it to ebay and paypal - you will get your money back.
I've used their dispute systems a couple of times and both worked out fine.

What an appalling word to use!! think what you write next time!
 
The seller finally answered my third message saying he removed the auction 2 weeks ago but Ebay didn't remove it and the item is no longer available. Funny that 30 minutes before the sale ended he declined my offer of £45, dodgy story. Negative feedback left.
That sounds like a buy it now sale with an option to make an offer that is not the same as an auction.
 
The seller finally answered my third message saying he removed the auction 2 weeks ago but Ebay didn't remove it and the item is no longer available. Funny that 30 minutes before the sale ended he declined my offer of £45, dodgy story. Negative feedback left.

If he removed it then Ebay couldn't continue to list it because he has basically deleted it. Ebay would show it as no longer being available and there would be no way to pay or bid on that page.

What was this scammers feedback like?
 
Negative feedback left.

This is it. You just have to forget about it now and move on to the next one. The seller will get a couple more negatives like that if they have no brain and will be effectively unable to sell anything in the future.
 
Thanks, I've just sent a message to the seller but it wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't reply, cant see him selling it for my low winning bid!
He has to supply by law.

He cannot refuse to supply the item without redress.

If he refuses to supply the item you can demand payment as compensation for loss of bargin as at the market rate at fall of the hammer. You also need his name and address to enforce. Flebay will not compel him to compensate or supply the item. This is where flebay is still acting unlawfully in allowing sellers to back out.

Section 51 Sale of Goods act 1979.
 
He has to supply by law.

He cannot refuse to supply the item without redress.

If he refuses to supply the item you can demand payment as compensation for loss of bargin as at the market rate at fall of the hammer. You also need his name and address to enforce. Flebay will not compel him to compensate or supply the item. This is where flebay is still acting unlawfully in allowing sellers to back out.

Section 51 Sale of Goods act 1979.

That would never stand up in court, all he has to do is say he discovered it was broken or unfit for sale, case closed.
 
That would never stand up in court, all he has to do is say he discovered it was broken or unfit for sale, case closed.
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Sorry not correct. Case reopened.LOL
That's not a defence he has to make good on the sale that's the law. See sale of goods act 1979 sec 51

I have used that section to take proceedings against a non seller on ebay who said the lens(400mm F2.8) was damaged before despatch. I sued using MCOL and obtained judgment in my favour.

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The seller finally answered my third message saying he removed the auction 2 weeks ago but Ebay didn't remove it and the item is no longer available. Funny that 30 minutes before the sale ended he declined my offer of £45, dodgy story. Negative feedback left.

Should have paid it by Paypal before he had the chance.

Steve.
 
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Sorry not correct. Case reopened.LOL
That's not a defence he has to make good on the sale that's the law. See sale of goods act 1979 sec 51

I have used that section to take proceedings against a non seller on ebay who said the lens(400mm F2.8) was damaged before despatch. I sued using MCOL and obtained judgment in my favour.

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well, clearly the seller had no idea what they were doing or had very bad legal representation (or didn't turn up/answer the mc) what did you sue for because MCOL is very specific and deal with exact numbers, what did you sue for ?

You have to prove the seller is deliberately not shipping the goods, like an email saying "sorry price was too low so I am not selling" if you're saying you can take people to court for the following, for example, the courts would be full of people claiming damages for no receipt of goods.

Seller says it shipped and it never arrives.
If the seller found out there was a fault, a let the buyer know it was faulty.
The item was stolen
Out of stock, sold in error elsewhere.

The list goes on, there are many reasons a seller may be incapable of fulfilling the order, a
 
I am sorry your ideas and opinions are are wrong the law is clear. And you are mixing issues this is an issue of a sale on ebay a legally binding contract.

I have done it and that's it. The person involved was represented by the citizans advice who told him he had to make good on his promiss and either supply the item or put me in a position so I could purchase one at the market rate. He concided that " he had learnt something" like you hopfully are.

Broken items a plague of locust or any event does not release the seller from his responsibilty to supply the goods.

The purchaser does not have to prove that the seller is 'deliberately'(what ever that means) not supplying the item only that he has not supplied it.

You are mixing issues intead of sticking to the facts of this specific post.

If one purchase a car and it gets stolen before recipt the person has to still supply the car. If they refund the money and that puts the person in the position they would have been had they recieved tha car that is fine.

But ( and this is the bit you are missing) if an auction takes place and an item is bid on and won at well under the market price ( a bargain) IE a lens that would cost £400 in a shop at the market rate is won at £200. Then the seller fails to supply the lens ( for any reason at all) and refunds the £200 the purchaser can sue (as I did) for loss of bargin at the value of £200. Which then puts the buyer in the position he would have been in had the contract been fullfilled by being able to buy the lens at £400 from the shop (no loss of bargain).

When one sues they sue on the prima facia (at first light) market value of the lens so if the lens is as above £400 in the shops or on the net their is no dificulty with detriming value because the prima facia price is that which is used to calculate the loss.

This is a big advantage because the seller in my case tried to dispute my valuation of the loss (difference between bargin price and market price) but he could not because the law said all I had to do was demonstrate the market value(the price in shops or on sale elsewhere) which I did by producing adverts from MPB and other suppliers of that particular lens.

I sued because I contacted ebay about my loss of bargin and they did not make (and never do) any attempt compel the seller to honor his contract. It is a seperate issue but to my mind there is an issue with ebay here it could be argued that they are acting as an agent to protect non sellers.

If you do a search there are many complaints about people winning items on ebay at bargin prices and sellers failing to supply. Just because sellers are not getting the price they want at auction is not a valid reason for failure to supply the item. It is a breach of contract.

I hope this helps anyone.
 
Lots of people have tried and failed, last one I read was a guy who went after Argos for £100 and lost, DHL lost the parcel, goods were classed as perished, claimant lost. If in your case the guy said the glass had perished and as such the item was perished, you may not have been so lucky. Nothing is clear in law, that’s for sure.
 
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