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Has anybody else noticed that the prices of the photography gear is way out of hand on ebay these days, i mean my god you can get some of the stuff cheaper from the shops online.


This is the third time i have searched for kit on ebay and it has either matched or been more expensive that the high street retail.

It maybe would'nt bother me so much but i have heard and read of people buying stolen/fake gear on ebay and being none the wiser.

Come on folk make a stand ebay is for bargains even the second hand prices are nutts dont people check that they can buy the item cheaper new?
 
Ebay has gone crap in general now, I rarely see bargains.

Although photography as a whole now is a joke with the current prices of kit new. I mean for example today i was looking at my sigma 10mm fisheye online for a laugh and was shocked to see that it was £360ish last year and is now just shy of £600...

Bad times :(
 
i have to agree with you. people do pay crazy prices sometimes for second hand stuff. i always search the net first to see what the going rate is for something before i look on fleebay.
 
Perhaps that's part of the reason the buy/sell part of TP is so popular, E-bay is pants.
 
Flash In The Pan said:
Some people seem to assume that because it's on Ebay, it's a bargain :shrug:
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And that was true..............A few years ago
sadly its now mostly overpriced
( and in some cases fakes & scams (allegedly ;)))
goods

I rarely play there anymore
 
GlasgowGunner said:
even the second hand prices are nutts dont people check that they can buy the item cheaper new?
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Nope, they don't, the mist descends and the bid war begins, shops check what equipment goes for after a bidding war, and price accordingly, cos they're a shop just like the highstreet, ask em....its true :suspect:

On the other hand, enlargers are pretty cheap, if you can find one that isn't a bladdy pick-up in the Outer Hebrides...:)
 
Flash In The Pan said:
Some people seem to assume that because it's on Ebay, it's a bargain :shrug:
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I always thought Ebay was there to make as much as possible for both Ebay and the seller.

I'm sure most winners consider their purchase a bargain or at least a fair price. After all they didn't have to bid.

Remember it is the buyers that decide the price.
 
PsiFox said:
Remember it is the buyers that decide the price.
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Or the sellers (if they don't get caught) bidding up their own goods ;)
 
Les McLean said:
Perhaps that's part of the reason the buy/sell part of TP is so popular, E-bay is pants.
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add the fact that with a for sale section on a forum you dont get raped to advertise the item and then get stung again when you sell it, plus you are not forced to pay via gaypal etc...

The new system of people not getting money on ebay till feedback is left is just openining up scamming in reality. Pays for 1D mkIII which isnt recorded delivery, enjoys new toy but then claims it doesnt arrive... O hai.... gaypal claim.

its **** poor if you ask me.
 
fastworldimages said:
add the fact that with a for sale section on a forum you dont get raped to advertise the item and then get stung again when you sell it, plus you are not forced to pay via gaypal etc...

The new system of people not getting money on ebay till feedback is left is just openining up scamming in reality. Pays for 1D mkIII which isnt recorded delivery, enjoys new toy but then claims it doesnt arrive... O hai.... gaypal claim.

its **** poor if you ask me.
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Do I detect a note of cynicism ;) :)
 
I honestly think some people just bid on ebay for the hell of it, be it the thrill of winning an item or the mentality of playing a game of one upmanship in staying ahead.

Of course, if you are seller then ebay is fantastic (assuming it's not a scammer) - I recently sold my backup 70-200 2.8 for £1180 !

With regards to scammers, now that paypal has pulled out of the UK/EU banking market there is little chance of redress if things go awry.
 
razor777 said:
Of course, if you are seller then ebay is fantastic (assuming it's not a scammer) - I recently sold my backup 70-200 2.8 for £1180 !

With regards to scammers, now that paypal has pulled out of the UK/EU banking market there is little chance of redress if things go awry.
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Amazing price that when you consider about a year ago a new one was around 1k! Its not a bad time for selling gear but awful if buying.

when did gaypal pull ouf of the banking market?
 
Well that is what im getting at. I hardly buy from it now with the prices the way the are and i avoid it like the plague when selling as the fees from both ebay and paypal are terrible.

I sold all my Canon gear on it a while back and i kid you not i got a fright when i seen what i had lost in both ebay and paypal fees.


And yeah big up the TP sale&trade section i sold some kit last week on this and it was far more rewarding. DONT GO CHARGING US FOR IT TP.....

Though i dont like the way i have seen the people on here in the for sale section telling people its an extra 3% if you pay with paypal.

Also sending the money as a gift through paypal is to risky for the buyer, doing this gives you very little to no comeback, after all most of us here dont know each other from adam do we?
 
GlasgowGunner said:
Though i dont like the way i have seen the people on here in the for sale section telling people its an extra 3% if you pay with paypal.
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I personally dont see an issue with asking for 3% if the buyer is insistent on paying through PP. Afterall they want the insurance on it, why should you as the seller loose money?

There are other ways to cover youre arse, and due to the nature of this community a large percentage of the members are known personally by atlease 1-2 other people.
 
I never used to bother checking outside of eBay, but certainly do now as you can get a lot of gear cheaper from retailers with a bit of browsing... it's def not what it used to be, but that's down to buyers when it comes to auctions, not sellers.
 
fastworldimages said:
I personally dont see an issue with asking for 3% if the buyer is insistent on paying through PP. Afterall they want the insurance on it, why should you as the seller loose money?

There are other ways to cover youre arse, and due to the nature of this community a large percentage of the members are known personally by atlease 1-2 other people.
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Ahhh so you do.lol.

Im not saying its a bad thing but it should be included in the final price thats all it could mean john pays and extra 3% and jim gets 3% off to pay another way, if you see what i mean just seems a bit unfair to.
 
GlasgowGunner said:
Ahhh so you do.lol.

Im not saying its a bad thing but it should be included in the final price thats all it could mean john pays and extra 3% and jim gets 3% off to pay another way, if you see what i mean just seems a bit unfair to.
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I dont have access to the for sale section so not been asking for 3% extra. I just refuse paypal payments unless they are willing to pay extra when im selling on other forums im on with car parts for example. and try to do collection only anyway

Paypal sucks basically lol
 
fastworldimages said:
Amazing price that when you consider about a year ago a new one was around 1k! Its not a bad time for selling gear but awful if buying.

when did gaypal pull ouf of the banking market?
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Paypal fall under CSSF rules as opposed to FSA - it was a move to luxembourg that caused this. Oh it was the IS version I was talking about, not bad considering I originally paid approx 875 for it from another forum. ;)
 
I think the TP buy/sell forum is run very well, and apart from the odd hiccup, it's works a treat.

This is mainly to do with how well it's managed and monitored (IMO), if you don't play by the rules, you quickly get slapped with a wet fish.

In respect of 3% paypal fees, as long as the seller is completely up front with everything (they generally are) and no 'hidden charges' then I don't see a problem.
 
fastworldimages said:
The new system of people not getting money on ebay till feedback is left is just openining up scamming in reality. Pays for 1D mkIII which isnt recorded delivery, enjoys new toy but then claims it doesnt arrive... O hai.... gaypal claim.

its **** poor if you ask me.
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The new rules only apply to new sellers, or those with a record of non-delivery.

If a seller is stupid enough to ship an item of value, such as a 1D MK III by the regular post without any means of tracking then, tbh they get what they deserve, if it all goes pear-shaped.
 
razor777 said:
Paypal fall under CSSF rules as opposed to FSA - it was a move to luxembourg that caused this. Oh it was the IS version I was talking about, not bad considering I originally paid approx 875 for it from another forum. ;)
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Yep the 2.8L IS was 1k new about 18months ago so you did nicely there :D:D
 
Flash In The Pan said:
The new rules only apply to new sellers, or those with a record of non-delivery.

If a seller is stupid enough to ship an item of value, such as a 1D MK III by the regular post without any means of tracking then, tbh they get what they deserve, if it all goes pear-shaped.
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It was a hint of sarcasm about the 1D mkIII as an example, if selling any item its easy to get scammed. Its put alot of people off selling on ebay which is why now ebay is mostly just full of shops selling crap from taiwan.
 
agreed! sony alpha a300 is about £60 more expensive on ebay than in jessops!!!!
 
fastworldimages said:
It was a hint of sarcasm about the 1D mkIII as an example, if selling any item its easy to get scammed. Its put alot of people off selling on ebay which is why now ebay is mostly just full of shops selling crap from taiwan.
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I realised that :naughty: but personally anything I flog on Fleabay goes by at least Recorded Delivery, so that I have proof of delivery.

Every system is open to abuse, I guess I've just been relatively lucky with the buyers/sellers I've dealt with on there.

I'd still rather deal with people on TP though and make the odd donation to the forum funds than fill Meg Whitman's pockets...
 
Flash In The Pan said:
I realised that :naughty: but personally anything I flog on Fleabay goes by at least Recorded Delivery, so that I have proof of delivery.

Every system is open to abuse, I guess I've just been relatively lucky with the buyers/sellers I've dealt with on there.

I'd still rather deal with people on TP though and make the odd donation to the forum funds than fill Meg Whitman's pockets...
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Have you ever had the negative feedback for overcharging on postage, I know a few people who got this because they only offered insured/recorded delivery and refused to end say 2nd class unrecorded for cheapness...

Some people are so childish/pathetic lol!

I am admin effectively on a very very busy car forum, and reading through here TPs for sale section seems to work very nicely with people behaving (although i suspect that to be more to do with the fact most people here have more than a mental age of 12 like the car forum). We had to impliment the same 100posts/30Days system as here.
 
fastworldimages said:
Have you ever had the negative feedback for overcharging on postage,
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I've had negative feedback for using too much protective packing material on a model car, despite charging the buyer £1 less for postage than it cost me and it was still only £2.50 :cuckoo:
 
When ebay first started it use to be a great place to buy & sell stuff, you could pay anyway you wanted and there wasn't any daft paypal fee's like their is now since ebay took control.

I don't sell or buy from ebay anymore, mainly due to fee's they now charge
plus if you sell anything your in a lottery if paypal keeps hold of your money.

I had this problem & took over 40 days to get the money from them, even after the buyer left positive feedback.

Plus as a small seller you hardly have any rights, since the rule changes alot of people are bidding on stuff winning then not paying due to the seller unable to leave negitive feedback, had this done to me 4 times now reported them to ebay, but nothing was done basically having to relist it and being out of pocket as ebay wouldn't refund the listing fee's.

Ebay is just not worth the hassle anymore.
 
I've found that a lot of the cheaper and lighter items (<£10) have very high postage charges (around £5-6) which only adds to the seller profit margin.

I was recently charged £4.95 postage for one item which I assumed would be fairly heavy and so I reluctantly agreed to the charge. However, the actually postage used was less than £2.00! We tend to forget to factor this in when looking for a bargain.
 
Trouble is now, to avoid 10% seller fees, folks will be using BIN or Best Offer on camera items.

The days of 99p starts are over, as the astronomical fees means this makes this no sense at all as a seller -example: a £400 sale (reasonable for a camera lens) is £40 Ebay fees with another 5% creamed off by Paypal.

Its not much of an auction site anymore, and folks are just putting up silly BIN prices!
 
puddleduck said:
Trouble is now, to avoid 10% seller fees, folks will be using BIN or Best Offer on camera items.

The days of 99p starts are over, as the astronomical fees means this makes this no sense at all as a seller -example: a £400 sale (reasonable for a camera lens) is £40 Ebay fees with another 5% creamed off by Paypal.

Its not much of an auction site anymore, and folks are just putting up silly BIN prices!
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What's the fees for BIN then? I've never used BIN despite using eBay for many years....
 
More and more people are moving over to Ebid.net instead of Ebay - (I still buy and sell on both.) - Ebid.net is still very quiet, and there are few bidding wars - Unfortunately that means most sellers are reluctant to list with low starting bids, for fear of selling at next to nothing.

The fees are much cheaper - 2% instead of 10%
You don't pay to list an item - only pay the FVF once it has sold.
The feedback system is still fair - You can even edit after both parties have left their comments, which seems to resolve the issue of retaliatory feedback.

Yes -It has it's problems. Not enough buyers, means that sellers err toward ebay to list, making it a Catch 22 situation. But ceetainly worth taking a look as an alternative.
 
I didnt bother reading all this, but has anyone checked out ebid.co.uk ?

EDIT: Seems like after reading the above post, yes. That will teach me not to read a thread :lol:
 
I have been checking ebay for the last few weeks constantly (buying some contax lenses and my first MF film camera, also 40d for my brother). I have to agree, when it comes to DSLR there are almost no bargains at all. I ended up buying 40d form here and my Rolleiflex form an online shop. FOrums are really good place to buy. Pity that there is practically no MF stuff in them. EBay still has more offers with some bargains in this sector.
 
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