Ebay Help, Selling, Item Selling For Too Much?!?!?

If you've not authorised it you could probably have you bank do a charge back via direct debit.
 
Stuart M said:
I don't really understand his thinking from the off. He's selling a camera, kit lens, a battery grip and he's complaining about being offered too much money for it. I've always considered that the whole idea was to make as much money as possible from things you're trying to sell. Or have I been doing it wrong all this time?

The camera and lens alone would cost someone a lot more on Amazon so the current highest bid of £360 obviously seems like a bargain to someone.
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He wasn't moaning that the bid was to high, he was just skeptical of the bidder. This is how eBay scammers operate. I know, because I've had them target myself on numerous occasions. For instance, three times now have I listed my phone for sale on eBay and within a matter of hours the phone is bought outright by somebody with zero feedback. After the auction is closed they then contact you outside of eBay, which is against the rules. They then ask you to ship the item to address other than the one specified on their eBay profile which in this case is usually somewhere in Nigeria. If you go ahead and accept their terms they will then forge an email from PayPal alerting you that funds have been deposited in your account, which of course they haven't been.

They catch people out though you see, because some eBay sellers will simply not think to check their PayPal before proceeding with the transaction and will dispatch the item thinking that they've made an easy buck. Thankfully I'm not so trusting of those on the internet and check everything meticulously, so with me the scams never got quite that far. If the fraudulent seller knows that they've been rumbled they will simply delete their eBay account and set up another to repeat the process. They really are infuriating ****ers. :bonk:
 
It's not just e-bay that has scammers. A few years ago, Dad was selling a boat trailer through a magazine's classifieds. He thought a deal had been done and indeed, a cheque arrived in payment. Well, more than in payment! The "buyer" had added a grand to the price agreed on and wanted the extra in cash when he collected the trailer. The cheque and all correspondance were handed over to the police who later told Dad that the cheque was from a stolen book and that it was a common try-on for thieves/fences. The trailer sold a few days later to a local cash buyer who dropped the cash off and was happy to wait while the stack was checked for forgeries before towing the thing away.
 
I think the current scammers paradise is actually Gumtree, post an ad and see how fast the emails begin asking to send it to the "cousin doing missionary work in Africa/Indonesia" and offering a huge extra payment to cover the postage.
 
my only concern was no reply and no feedback and the account opened a few minutes before the bid was placed,

current winner has not contacted me yet regarding payment
 
KieranSLR said:
my only concern was no reply and no feedback and the account opened a few minutes before the bid was placed,

current winner has not contacted me yet regarding payment
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Have you sent him an invoice?
 
KieranSLR said:
my only concern was no reply and no feedback and the account opened a few minutes before the bid was placed,

current winner has not contacted me yet regarding payment
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Yeah... They won't. I sell a lot of things online and this happens a LOT on eBay. Don't get me wrong, you get douche bags everywhere you go. However eBay seems to attract a lot of them!
 
I think it is the usual case of only hearing about the bad things on eBay. 10s of 1,000s of things sell every hour on eBay and no-one starts threads about the sales and purchases that went with out faults.
Still, it adds some fuel to the paranoid fire
 
Yes, there may be some honest eBayers but I'll keep away from the place anyway.
 
Not a case of 'may', the majority of eBayers are honest. I have feedback of around 1,000 split roughly equally between purchases and sales over 8 years and it has been pain free. Not saying it will always stay that way and I am bound to get a hassle based sale one day but people have an unhealthy fear of it based on a few 'headline' posts on forums.
 
just find it strange the person has failed to contact me at all and they have 40ish feedback
 
Not just the possibility of scammers but also the stupidity of prices. When I've been looking there to see if there are any bargains among items I want, the 2nd hand prices have been above High Street NEW prices. Why risk getting scammed on a 2nd hand item when a few quid saved will get you what you're after NOW with a full manufacturer's warranty? OK, I may have missed a bargain or 2 BUT, there's no chance of me getting scammed or otherwise ripped off (or letting rampant GAS take hold!!!)
 
KieranSLR said:
just find it strange the person has failed to contact me at all and they have 40ish feedback
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Maybe they spotted your dodgy past there and noted that you had blown the previous top bidder out and didn't want to take the chance?
 
Nod said:
Maybe they spotted your dodgy past there and noted that you had blown the previous top bidder out and didn't want to take the chance?
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but theres no reason to not contact me? so i can atleast offer it to the next highest bidder
 
KieranSLR said:
just find it strange the person has failed to contact me at all and they have 40ish feedback
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Not everyone is on the net every day, I think I've waited 4 or 5 days for payment in the past.
 
You actually have to give it a few days. Take a look at the non paying bidder info on eBay and you will see how long you have to wait and what actions to take before you ultimately open a case to get your fees back.
I find buyers harder work than sellers generally as buyers don't have much to lose and the worst they can get is a non paying bidder strike on their account which doesn't stop them buying something else the next day.
 
Nod said:
Not just the possibility of scammers but also the stupidity of prices. When I've been looking there to see if there are any bargains among items I want, the 2nd hand prices have been above High Street NEW prices. Why risk getting scammed on a 2nd hand item when a few quid saved will get you what you're after NOW with a full manufacturer's warranty? OK, I may have missed a bargain or 2 BUT, there's no chance of me getting scammed or otherwise ripped off (or letting rampant GAS take hold!!!)
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Your missing the main benefit. The fact you can sell things at such good prices is the great thing about eBay. I rarely buy used items because of that although you can get a bargain if the seller hasn't listed it well, picked odd time for auction end etc,.
 
KieranSLR said:
just find it strange the person has failed to contact me at all and they have 40ish feedback
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To be perfectly honest you wouldn't instil much confidence in me as a potential buyer, cancelling bids and having poor feedback yourself.
 
The poor feedback was known in advance of the person bidding, that was their choice. Although they may now be having second thoughts of course...
 
mrgas said:
To be perfectly honest you wouldn't instil much confidence in me as a potential buyer, cancelling bids and having poor feedback yourself.
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all people can see my feedback before bidding and can contact me, as 1 person did and then was happy to bid, reasons for cancelling to bid was no feedback account created same day as bid was put in, sent them messages no reply at all

there pretty good reasons for cancelling a bid, the 2 negative feedbacks was 5-6 years ago, as i dont use ebay, ive sold a couple of things on here one been a iphone 4s
 
ernesto said:
I think it is the usual case of only hearing about the bad things on eBay. 10s of 1,000s of things sell every hour on eBay and no-one starts threads about the sales and purchases that went with out faults.
Still, it adds some fuel to the paranoid fire
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Things like this have happened to me on amazon and play also...it's not just ebay.
 
Maybe its the winning bidder that created the new account to outbid himself, due to changing his mind for whatever reason.
 
Dave1 said:
Unlikely, far easier to just retract your bid.
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Unless there is less than 12 hours to go or you have done too many retractions in a certain period of time. That still leaves the option of emailing the seller to cancel your bid though.
Setting up a new account just for the purpose of outbidding your own bid does seem to be the option that takes the most effort.
 
ernesto said:
Unless there is less than 12 hours to go or you have done too many retractions in a certain period of time. That still leaves the option of emailing the seller to cancel your bid though.
Setting up a new account just for the purpose of outbidding your own bid does seem to be the option that takes the most effort.
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Almost, but not quite, he could still have retracted his last bid in the final 12 hours, but the retraction would only remove the last bid made (if he has made more than one). So if he did change his mind after placing the bid he could still have retracted his final bid which made him the highest bidder.

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/buy/questions/retract-bid.html
Up to 12 hours before the end of the listing
All bids you've place on the item will be cancelled automatically

During the last 12 hours of the listing
Only your most recent bid will be cancelled, provided that the bid retraction form is submitted within an hour of your bid

If you want to cancel a bid placed more than an hour ago, you'll need to contact the seller to cancel your bid
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person failed to buy, had to contact them via there mobile number on ebay

there reply;

i was bidding on another at the same time, so dont want your now

very frustrating, now i remeber why i dont use ebay

so i now have to claim back the fees
 
I know it's been said by others and you've tried to explain but it may be that they've seen your feedback record and decided it's not worth the risk.
Sorry but if I'd seen your feedback I wouldn't have even put a bid in in the first place, no matter how old the negatives are.

very frustrating, now i remeber why i dont use ebay
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The two who gave you negatives probably said the same.
People in glass houses etc. ;)
 
Wozzaaah said:
I know it's been said by others and you've tried to explain but it may be that they've seen your feedback record and decided it's not worth the risk.
Sorry but if I'd seen your feedback I wouldn't have even put a bid in in the first place, no matter how old the negatives are.



The two who gave you negatives probably said the same.
People in glass houses etc. ;)
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i just posted reason was buyer bidded on another and forgot about mine,

but they did see my feedback ive not tried to hide it
 
It does sound like a time waster putting bids on a few to see which one he gets the cheapest but the problem you'll always have is that your feedback record is very poor which will make selling anything on there difficult.
No matter how old it is, the first thing I or any other sensible potential buyer will do is look at those red entries and walk away.
The fact you decided to respond to both comments this late on looks odd too, if your comments are genuine then you should have replied back then but then again, if you'd sorted it out quickly enough you wouldn't have got the negatives in the first place.

Of the two sellers that gave you negative, one has been an Ebay member for over 8 years, has received faultless feedback and has only ever dished out two negatives, one to a non-paying bidder and the other to yourself, he has a score of over 800!
The other one, the same, 100% positive of 181, only two negatives ever dished out, again a non-paying bidder and yourself.
That tells me they're both pretty much model ebayers and ones I wouldn't hesitate to buy from.

I know this thread isn't about your feedback or your past but see things from a potential buyers point of view, it will probably be putting off a lot of genuine buyers and could be attracting idiots who feel they have the right to mess you about. ;)
 
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time wasters are exactly that and are very annoying, if you have a 7 day auction and they fail to pay its a week wasted.

not gonna say i told you so but you should have let the original high bidder remain in my opinion

good luck with the sale though
 
ernesto said:
Not a case of 'may', the majority of eBayers are honest. I have feedback of around 1,000 split roughly equally between purchases and sales over 8 years and it has been pain free. Not saying it will always stay that way and I am bound to get a hassle based sale one day but people have an unhealthy fear of it based on a few 'headline' posts on forums.
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This has been my experience too, no problems so far.
 
An option I use for the majority of my sales is Buy it Now only. Okay I miss out on the mugs that may massively overpay but get no hassle (and can't)
I accept only Paypal and use the Pay Immediately checkbox that means as soon as someone buys your item they have to pay. If they don't proceed the item stays listed so no time wasted.
List it for 30 days at the price you want and see what happens. If it doesn't sell you can always revise it to a lower price.
 
ernesto said:
An option I use for the majority of my sales is Buy it Now only. Okay I miss out on the mugs that may massively overpay but get no hassle (and can't)
I accept only Paypal and use the Pay Immediately checkbox that means as soon as someone buys your item they have to pay. If they don't proceed the item stays listed so no time wasted.
List it for 30 days at the price you want and see what happens. If it doesn't sell you can always revise it to a lower price.
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+1 that's also my way of selling on ebay,
Never had any problems, as the buy/pay now stops the time wasters and idiots from bidding.
 
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