Beginner E27 Bulb Holder Socket Flash Bracket

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I have a number of speedlights, a ezsoft style softbox and a umbrella softbox, I am trying to learn to use them but not being very successful in using the kit or placing the softbox to get a nice light.

I was therefore thinking of getting one of these to put into the softbox to get the softbox placement correct, then turn it off and use a speed light in the softbox:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/FoxHunter-Photography-Holder-Umbrella-Bracket/dp/B00CRH4AJQ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1422646017&sr=8-5&keywords=e27 photography bulb

Anyone use anything like this with an umbrella type softbox and is it worth using it to learn.

Edit: Sorry should have said I do not want to get proper studio lights as I do not have the space to store them.

Thank you
 
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You'll generally find those used with slave flashes or CFL bulbs for continuous lighting but that shouldn't stop your idea from working.

Personally I'd find it too much of a hassle to be changing out the modelling light for the actual flash (there are options with modelling lights which are roughly the same size as a big speedlight) but it's better than nothing.
 
sep9001 said:
Simon,

Thank you for replying.

I am planning on using the setup as per the last post on this thread

https://www.talkphotography.co.uk/index.php?threads/HELP...-Umbrella-Softbox-Bracket.576871/

I can have the bulb on the internal bracket and the flash would go on the second bracket so that I can tilt the umbrella.

If this would work I would just have switch the bulb off once I have got the position correct.

Thanks
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The last post there shows a barebulb flash (not a modelling light).
For what you want to achieve, you need a simple way of attaching your continuous source, which could be done with a number of different brackets or clamps.

Start with getting your bulb holder, then look at where you'd want to place it among your current setup, then find a bracket or clamp to suit, it shouldn't be too difficult.

But, I'd have to say, buying a relatively inexpensive studio head would be my advice.
 
Thanks, Phil. Any suggestions on a cheap studio head.
 
sep9001 said:
Thanks, Phil. Any suggestions on a cheap studio head.
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Lencarta Smartflash-2, £110. Easily the best value entry-level studio head.

The bulky items for storage are the stands and softboxes, rather than the actual flash heads, though the Smartflash-2 also happens to be notably smaller and lighter than most.
 
That is a fantastic price for a studio head.:)
 
jockwav said:
That is a fantastic price for a studio head.:)
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Studio flash is not as costly as many people think, and the heads are often cheaper than a decent hot-shoe gun. There are plenty cheaper than the Lencarta Smartflash-2, but nothing of the same quality. It's very well specified, has ample power for most things, is well designed and built. As a bonus, flash durations are notably shorter than most other entry-level heads.

Another entry-level favourite of mine is the Elinchrom D-Lite One, also well priced at £140, with a great features set and faster than average durations. Amazingly small and light too. At 100Ws it has just about enough power for home portraits.

Edit: there are significant savings when buying studio heads in a twin-head kit, including stands, softboxes and brollies etc.
 
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Lencarta Smartflash-2,does that come with the triggers or not.
I mean if you just buy the one.
 
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I had a look it,s another £50 on top for the trigger
 
jockwav said:
Lencarta Smartflash-2,does that come with the triggers or not.
I mean if you just buy the one.
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No, single heads are always sold as just that - head only. Kits include triggers - transmitter and receiver.

Edit: crossed post.
 
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I had a look it,s another £50 on top for the trigger
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Yes, quite expensive, at least compared to the price of the head. As mentioned above, the whole package is better value as a kit.

Those Lencarta triggers are good, with remote power control too, but you don't have to use them. Any trigger will plug straight in to the standard 3.5mm sync jack.
 
jockwav said:
I had a look it,s another £50 on top for the trigger
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It's why the kits are better value, there are other sources of the trigger too (Lencarta aren't the only badge they're printed with)
 
Cheers for that Richard.:)
 
Cheers Phil.:)
 
I bought my rf603 s with out the cables, please can I have a link to what cable I would need with the smart flash?

I was thinking of getting the yn622 but might save up and get the smart flash and a light meter or do I still need the yn622's. [emoji15]

Thank you all for the help.
 
If you get a Smartflash, you can use any of the YN triggers with a cable, if you have some ETTL flashguns, buy the 622 and TX, you'll get the cable with the Smartflash, it's long but it'll do. If you don't have ETTL flashguns, the Godox trigger will allow remote setting of the Smartflash.
 
sep9001 said:
I bought my rf603 s with out the cables, please can I have a link to what cable I would need with the smart flash?

I was thinking of getting the yn622 but might save up and get the smart flash and a light meter or do I still need the yn622's. [emoji15]

Thank you all for the help.
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One like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/3-5mm-FLASH...805241&sr=1-8&keywords=yongnuo+603+sync+cable with 3.5mm jack on one end (to flash) and PC connector on the other (into trigger).

These cables are not brand or model specific, so not to be confused with camera trigger cables that are (so you can also use the triggers for remote firing of the camera).
 
Thank you Phil and Richard for all the help.
 
Hi Richard\Phil,

Sorry me again, do I need to buy two sync cables (for RF603N) one for the smartflash and one for the camera in order to trigger the flash or will one do.

Thank you again for all your help.

Kev
 
sep9001 said:
Hi Richard\Phil,

Sorry me again, do I need to buy two sync cables (for RF603N) one for the smartflash and one for the camera in order to trigger the flash or will one do.

Thank you again for all your help.

Kev
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One will do. The transmitter sits in the hotshoe where it takes the 'fire' signal from the camera and converts it to a radio signal.
 
Thank you, Phil for a speedy reply. Going to save up a bit and just get the smart flash. In the meantime I will put up a wanted thread to see if I can save a few pennies.
 
I don't know how useful this would be in a studio & softbox setting, but my camera mountable flashgun has a menu selectable modelling light feature. All it does is fire a long burst of very low power high frequency flashes, like a fast strobe or an LED flashlight with a low flicker rste on low power. It lets you evaluate the effect of the light and move it around. But I've never seen it mentioned in reviews of the gun, and the only way I found out about its existence was by utilising a little known and rather esoteric technical research facility: I read the manual.

Not nearly as good as a real modelling light, but easy to use and much better than none. Maybe your gun has this little known secret feature too?
 
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I don't know how useful this would be in a studio & softbox setting, but my camera mountable flashgun has a menu selectable modelling light feature. All it does is fire a long burst of very low power high frequency flashes, like a fast strobe or an LED flashlight with a low flicker rste on low power. It lets you evaluate the effect of the light and move it around. But I've never seen it mentioned in reviews of the gun, and the only way I found out about its existence was by utilising a little known and rather esoteric technical research facility: I read the manual.

Not nearly as good as a real modelling light, but easy to use and much better than none. Maybe your gun has this little known secret feature too?
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It's part of the Canon feature set, usually assigned to the DoF preview button.
 
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