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hi having had my Nikon D300s for almost 5 months now and loving it very much, i am building up a small collection of FX compatiple lenses ... i was thinking along the lines of getting a D700 later part of the year..

the question is i have no experience of Full Frame ...would i be better off just staying with DX ? i would keep my D300s as its great.

i do mostly Landscape as per my website..www.perranspics.co.uk

but have done a bit of portrait and event shoots lately too.
 
Go for the D700, you won't regret it. I upgraded about a year ago, but still use my D200 for the extra focal length when needed.
 
What lenses do you have?

FX deffo takes full advantage of lenses at the wide end of the scale, but it also shows any imperfections quite easily; FX demands good glass, whereas with DX you can get away with lenses that aren't neccessarily perfect corner-to-corner because of the smaller image circle.

I'm gonna go FX at some point soon, probably a D3, but not for the larger sensor in relation to image size, more because Nikon don't do any other gripped bodies with good high ISO capability.
 
I want a new full size pro body DX camera but I doubt its gonna happen. I'll see what the D300's successor is like and base my decision on that. I really like my current lens line up.

If you love your D300S then keep it and enjoy it :)
 
lenses at the moment are 50mm f1.8 , sigma 24-70 f2.8, nikkor 70-200 f2.8 VR2 ...arriving next few days !

lenses i want ..nikkor 24-70 f2.8 and a 85mm or 105mm f1.8

got other lensses too but they are DX only
 
I want a new full size pro body DX camera but I doubt its gonna happen. I'll see what the D300's successor is like and base my decision on that. I really like my current lens line up.

If you love your D300S then keep it and enjoy it :)

my 300s is the best camera i have ever had .. but the 700 and Full frame interests me too ... just not the prices !!
 
hi having had my Nikon D300s for almost 5 months now and loving it very much, i am building up a small collection of FX compatiple lenses ... i was thinking along the lines of getting a D700 later part of the year..

the question is i have no experience of Full Frame ...would i be better off just staying with DX ? i would keep my D300s as its great.

i do mostly Landscape as per my website..www.perranspics.co.uk

but have done a bit of portrait and event shoots lately too.

If you don't know why you want full frame, then why are you planning on going full frame? It's an expensive experiment if you're not going to see any benefits, and crop format is better for some things.

Unless you are more interested in collecting toys of course - which we are all guilty of from time to time (and that's fine by me ;)) but it's not quite the same thing.

What lenses do you have?

FX deffo takes full advantage of lenses at the wide end of the scale, but it also shows any imperfections quite easily; FX demands good glass, whereas with DX you can get away with lenses that aren't neccessarily perfect corner-to-corner because of the smaller image circle.

I'm gonna go FX at some point soon, probably a D3, but not for the larger sensor in relation to image size, more because Nikon don't do any other gripped bodies with good high ISO capability.

Not sure about that! If you put the same lens on a full frame camera, the centre of the frame will always look better. The edges might be better too, but since you will never have seen what they're like before on a cropper, there's no way of telling just from the format switch.

Crop cameras tend to be more demanding of lenses because the pixel density is usually higher.
 
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If you don't know why you want full frame, then why are you planning on going full frame? It's an expensive experiment if you're not going to see any benefits, and crop format is better for some things.

Unless you are more interested in collecting toys of course - which we are all guilty of from time to time (and that's fine by me ;)) but it's not quite the same thing.

Not sure about that! If you put the same lens on a full frame camera, the centre of the frame will always look better. The edges might be better too, but since you will never have seen what they're like before on a cropper, there's no way of telling just from the format switch.

Crop cameras tend to be more demanding of lenses because the pixel density is usually higher.

Badly worded on my part. I suppose what I'm trying to say (and what you've mentioned) is if you currently use lens 'x' that is a FF lens, yes, you're only using a central section of the lens, albeit trying to get more from that central section because of the smaller sensor/image area on DX. Put lens x onto FF and if it's not 100 per cent pucka round the edges, you will notice what wasn't apparent before on the crop body and it could leave you second-guessing s lens that you were once very happy with....


.... Or something like that :lol:

Stop me if I'm talking gumf - I should really be back in my cage at this time of night :)
 
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Can I ask a question please, and its not a criticism, why do you put your watermark across your pics instead of ono of the corners out of the way so as to not get in the way of the photo??
 
Go for the D700, you won't regret it. I upgraded about a year ago, but still use my D200 for the extra focal length when needed.

DX doesn't change the focal length at all. The only thing that changes is the FOV.
 
Can I ask a question please, and its not a criticism, why do you put your watermark across your pics instead of ono of the corners out of the way so as to not get in the way of the photo??

A small watermark in a corner is very easy to get rid of if someone wants to steal a copy of the photo - a larger one across the middle makes thieving it much harder.
 
If you are unsure perhaps hire a d700 our for a week/two and see whether you get on with it/pictures you get back. Of course its probably best to do this when you can afford the camera, so as not to really really want it and not be able to get it :)

Just a thought...
 
What do you do with your pictures ,if you going to view them on your computer or dont print over 18x12 then stick to cropped format.Anything bigger you are going to sell and make a profit go to FF.
Years ago i bought a Bronica ETRSi film camera with all the bits for better IQ just it was too big and heavey to carry around and spent more time at home and now and again in a studio or camera club,.Expensive to feed with film and extras cost a bomb.Go FF and you will need to get the best lenses you can.I know people use old Nikon manual lenses on digital FF but are the results any better than the cropped format
At the end of the day its what you want to do with the photographs
 
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you have to look at what full frame offers over crop and see if you need that, if you dont, save the money and buy glass, the d300 is top, but the d700 pics are just something else.

do mostly landsacpe which the D300 is great for ...but i have recently started doing portrait and event stuff ..do you think the 700 would be better suited for this ??
 
Can I ask a question please, and its not a criticism, why do you put your watermark across your pics instead of ono of the corners out of the way so as to not get in the way of the photo??

the reason i have started doing this is that i was having images stolen off my site !! its easy to just photo shop the watermark if its in the bottom corner .. but accros the middle and embossed makes a lot harder!

they are only for the site purposes the ones i sell have a small one in the corner or none dependant on the customers needs ..
 
A small watermark in a corner is very easy to get rid of if someone wants to steal a copy of the photo - a larger one across the middle makes thieving it much harder.

excatally !!! this is the reason!
 
If you are unsure perhaps hire a d700 our for a week/two and see whether you get on with it/pictures you get back. Of course its probably best to do this when you can afford the camera, so as not to really really want it and not be able to get it :)

Just a thought...

good call Thanks !
 
What do you do with your pictures ,if you going to view them on your computer or dont print over 18x12 then stick to cropped format.Anything bigger you are going to sell and make a profit go to FF.
Years ago i bought a Bronica ETRSi film camera with all the bits for better IQ just it was too big and heavey to carry around and spent more time at home and now and again in a studio or camera club,.Expensive to feed with film and extras cost a bomb.Go FF and you will need to get the best lenses you can.I know people use old Nikon manual lenses on digital FF but are the results any better than the cropped format
At the end of the day its what you want to do with the photographs

thanks for this! .... i think i will do what Envic sayas and hire one hearer the time !
 
do mostly landsacpe which the D300 is great for ...but i have recently started doing portrait and event stuff ..do you think the 700 would be better suited for this ??
personaly the only reason i brought a d700 was for the high iso anything over iso 1600 wipes the floor with the d300,, but if you dont need that then crops are spot on..


but the d700 could be handy for event stuff if its held in dim lit places.
also see your doing a wedding which it would be great for if lighting is naff.
 
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I went up to a D3 from a D200 and the difference was amazing, it was like using a camera from the future. It won't be such a jump from a D300 to a D700 but if you can afford it then I don't think you'll regret it. If it's the first time you've had 2 cameras you will find that so useful if you ever work in busy situations where grabbing a second body around your neck with a different lens attached can mean you catch a shot that you'd have missed if you had to change lenses.
 
I had a D70 and was going to upgrade to the D300, but when the D700 came along, I opted for that, purely because of it's high ISO performance. If it hadn't have been for the fact that I shoot a lot in low light, I'd probably have gone for the D300, and kept all my DX lenses, rather than have to go through the long and expensive process of replacing them all.
After 2 years, I still think the D700 is absolutely awesome, although I do sometimes miss the extra reach that a DX sensor gives me on my 70-300.
 
FX is not an upgrade...it's simply different. Each sensor has it's strengths and weaknesses. If FX meets your needs more fully, go for it.
 
Is the noise performance of FX in low light noticable at ISO 1600 ends, e.g D700 to D300
 
What lenses do you have?

FX deffo takes full advantage of lenses at the wide end of the scale, but it also shows any imperfections quite easily; FX demands good glass, whereas with DX you can get away with lenses that aren't neccessarily perfect corner-to-corner because of the smaller image circle.

I'm gonna go FX at some point soon, probably a D3, but not for the larger sensor in relation to image size, more because Nikon don't do any other gripped bodies with good high ISO capability.

For anyone after a D3 there is an absolute bargain in a store near me. New one for £2,399. That is about £700 less than you would expect to pay.
They also have a Nikon fit Sigma 120-400 for £549 which is £120 cheaper than Jacobs are selling it for.
 
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