Dumbass question

nc_killie

POTY (Joint) 2016
Suspended / Banned
Messages
1,816
Name
John
Edit My Images
Yes
I am needing to upgrade my computer. I have an old laptop but need something for photo editing (ON1). I am not computer savvy and do not want to spend a fortune. Are these mini pcs any good? Can they be used for photo editing?
Looking on line I am frustrated- laptop, mini pc, desktop? I have never used macs and was told I would get frustrated if I switched. Any help appreciated, would like to keep ££ as low as possible but am also realistic.
Thanks in advance.
 
Look carefully at the processor and video card.
Some 15s are faster that some i9s, and video card makes a huge difference to speed on photo editing
 
Well in principle as long as the computer hardware meets these specs as a minimum all should be well!


Oh, if going away from a laptop do allow some £'s for a decent monitor:)
 
Last edited:
I have never used macs and was told I would get frustrated if I switched.

If you hate having to manage Windows and dislike being responsible for looking after the OS then you will probably LOVE the Mac. OTOH if you hate not being in control of how your computer does stuff and like to have at least some sense of knowing wat's going on then you'll probably HATE the Mac. Also generally Macs have no upgradeablility - generally nothing like RAM or hard drive space can be increased after purchase - what you buy is what you have forever with current models.

laptop, mini pc, desktop?

Mini-PCs are sometimes effectively a laptop in a small box without a screen, although with Windows machines you can usually change RAM and hard drives, but not too much else. Following the viewpoint above, if you are inclined to update graphics cards & processors, have multiple internal hard drives, a full-size PC is better. If desk space was very tight then a mini-PC can be mounted behind the screen in many cases.

I am not computer savvy

If this also summarised your approach to computing generally then a Macbook Air or a Mac mini may well be the most cost and hassle effective machine for you. *Personally* I would tend to buy a pile of bits and build what I wanted - I enjoy the process - but from the sound of things, you'd probably enjoy something that just looked after itself and got on with it. As suggested, if you buy the mini, spend at least £300 on a half-decent 1440P 27" screen too, although with Black Friday deals you might get something good for less. Make sure it's IPS technology and 99% sRGB colour gamut.

Any of the current Macs with an M series processor would be OK for photo editing, but DO NOT buy a used Mac with an intel processor, because they are now obsolete.
 
I use a 17" lap top and Adobe CS2024.

I don't like desk top computers, I think they dominate rooms. I want to enjoy my home, not make it look like a workplace. At least with a laptop you can shut it and put it out of sight.
 
If you hate having to manage Windows and dislike being responsible for looking after the OS then you will probably LOVE the Mac. OTOH if you hate not being in control of how your computer does stuff and like to have at least some sense of knowing wat's going on then you'll probably HATE the Mac. Also generally Macs have no upgradeablility - generally nothing like RAM or hard drive space can be increased after purchase - what you buy is what you have forever with current models.



Mini-PCs are sometimes effectively a laptop in a small box without a screen, although with Windows machines you can usually change RAM and hard drives, but not too much else. Following the viewpoint above, if you are inclined to update graphics cards & processors, have multiple internal hard drives, a full-size PC is better. If desk space was very tight then a mini-PC can be mounted behind the screen in many cases.



If this also summarised your approach to computing generally then a Macbook Air or a Mac mini may well be the most cost and hassle effective machine for you. *Personally* I would tend to buy a pile of bits and build what I wanted - I enjoy the process - but from the sound of things, you'd probably enjoy something that just looked after itself and got on with it. As suggested, if you buy the mini, spend at least £300 on a half-decent 1440P 27" screen too, although with Black Friday deals you might get something good for less. Make sure it's IPS technology and 99% sRGB colour gamut.

Any of the current Macs with an M series processor would be OK for photo editing, but DO NOT buy a used Mac with an intel processor, because they are now obsolete.
Thank you very helpful
I realise that typically a separate graphics card is better but on a mini pc they use a combined cpu/gpu. Would this be adequate? TIA
 
I use a 17" lap top and Adobe CS2024.

I don't like desk top computers, I think they dominate rooms. I want to enjoy my home, not make it look like a workplace. At least with a laptop you can shut it and put it out of sight.
Agree that is why I am thinking of a mini pc or a MacBook!
 
You could have a look at PC Specialist.

During Covid when computers were a bit thin on the ground they seemed to have plenty of bits and pieces in stock and they built my laptop and got it to me in very reasonable time and at a very reasonably price. They could be at least worth a look, they can offer advice and can custom your build what you want. There may well be other companies who offer this sort of service.
 
Last edited:
Thank you very helpful
I realise that typically a separate graphics card is better but on a mini pc they use a combined cpu/gpu. Would this be adequate? TIA

Depends what it is, but generally it will work, but such a huge trade off in performance, it won't be long before you want something better
 
Thank you very helpful
I realise that typically a separate graphics card is better but on a mini pc they use a combined cpu/gpu. Would this be adequate? TIA

What's your budget - desirable and maximum?

As @Sangoma said, it can become frustrating when they are slow, but it IS still possible to edit on a horribly slow computer
 
I use a 17" lap top and Adobe CS2024.

I don't like desk top computers, I think they dominate rooms. I want to enjoy my home, not make it look like a workplace. At least with a laptop you can shut it and put it out of sight.
i have a desktop set up in my living room but not 'office style' at a desk - instead i have my screen (dell u2713hm) set up on a small coffee table in front of my sofa and a k400r compact keyboard with integrated touchpad on the arm of my sofa - i don't own a tv (hate the things with a passion) so it's my 'go to' option for everything - movies, photo editing, email etc
 
There's a couple of Mac Minis in the classifieds for =<£400, but you would also need a keyboard, mouse and screen.

It's going to be difficult to get a decent spec device under £500, but you could also look at a (Dell Outlet) Inspiron 16 - 5645 Laptop from the outlet store. 16GB/1TB, 16" 1920:1200 screen, reasonable processor. £516


Or an ASUS https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09TKKNQHV? £469
 
There's a couple of Mac Minis in the classifieds for =<£400, but you would also need a keyboard, mouse and screen.

It's going to be difficult to get a decent spec device under £500, but you could also look at a (Dell Outlet) Inspiron 16 - 5645 Laptop from the outlet store. 16GB/1TB, 16" 1920:1200 screen, reasonable processor. £516


Or an ASUS https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09TKKNQHV? £469

That Dell looks OK, and the AMD onboard graphics is way better than the Intel, though the processors in that and the Asus are very similar performance.
The Dell would be the best for editing.

Only thing with Dell is that you can often not change the memory (it is soldered in),

I don't see you would get better performance for the price than the Dell, it's a good find.
 
I bought a Mini PC with 32gb DDR5 Ram, 512GB SSD & 1TB Storage with built in AMD Graphics and it runs like a dream for LR with my Z8 Cameras largish file sizes and a lot better than the old tower PC I had which was lower spec but with a separate graphic card. I have PS but don't really use it and not sure how LR compares with ON1.

I added a 27 Asus ProArt PA279CV and I'm more than satisfied for my use. The total outlay was around £900 though, but possibly you could buy the PC & Screen separately over the coming weeks/months.

I bought around this time last year so I would expect the prices to be a bit cheaper now.
 
I can't really comment on the innards other than saying I have a Dell mini-ish box which is about 30 cm x 28 cm x 8cm , about 3.5 years old which seems to handle just about everything I can throw at it. The exception being Lightroom "enhance" which takes about 2mins per file. I got it from the Dell Refurb shop and my experience with Dell has been overwhelmingly good. When I bought it there was a few days delay and they gave me an extra discount on an already very good deal.
 
I bought an Intel NUC 13 18 months ago and a Dell Ultrasharp monitor and it's proved a really good buy. I don't do 'serious' photography averaging around 2k of photos a year but I do enjoy processing via Adobe Lightroom and occasionally Photoshop. I do the odd bit of scanning old negs via a plustek all of which which it has handled well. The current minis are much more powerful than mine and the New Apple Minis are tempting also. For my use it's been a complete success.
 
You're not stereotyping yourself are you ;)
……no, ask my wife! Cheap in some ways but not others!
I bought a Mini PC with 32gb DDR5 Ram, 512GB SSD & 1TB Storage with built in AMD Graphics and it runs like a dream for LR with my Z8 Cameras largish file sizes and a lot better than the old tower PC I had which was lower spec but with a separate graphic card. I have PS but don't really use it and not sure how LR compares with ON1.

I added a 27 Asus ProArt PA279CV and I'm more than satisfied for my use. The total outlay was around £900 though, but possibly you could buy the PC & Screen separately over the coming weeks/months.

I bought around this time last year so I would expect the prices to be a bit cheaper now.
Would you share the make? Many sound a bit dodgy! Thank you
 
……no, ask my wife! Cheap in some ways but not others!

Would you share the make? Many sound a bit dodgy! Thank you
Hi,
Below is the version I bought and in the 13 months I have used it it hasn't missed a beat. I had to add the storage disk myself and the casing has magnetic covers so it was easy for me to do who isn't computer savvy. I added Samsung 1tb storage and downloaded the Samsung Magician program and it was straight forward.


>https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CSZ3DCM3?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1
 
Last edited:
Back
Top