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I am doing a rebuild of my system and am thinking about running a dual boot system running XP and Win 7 64bit. The only reason I want to run 64bit is so I can make use of more ram. I want to run XP as well for those bits and bobs that may not work with 64bit. At this time I don't know what those bits might be so am taking the trial and error approach! What support is still out there for XP as I think Microsoft have stopped haven't they?
 
I run exactly that - dual boot win7 64 and 32 bit xp. Do you need to? Not really. I only did it for one particular pc game that apparently ran a lot better under xp. Sad but true.

I wouldn't bother now to be honest.

If you're bored/ keen though - There are lots of guides out there on how to set it up. Is quite easy.
 
Are the Canon camera programs all okay on 64bit then?
 
I've been using 64 bit OS for years now and win7 64 is excellent. I dont know of any app that doesn't work but if you have something in mind that might be quite old (ie: old hardware you still use) its worth checking.

Canon apps work fine.
 
Doesn't 64bit windows 7 come with an emulator which will sort any app's in 32bit xp mode? I also haven't found anything that won't work in 64bit windows 7 though
 
aligibbs said:
Doesn't 64bit windows 7 come with an emulator which will sort any app's in 32bit xp mode? I also haven't found anything that won't work in 64bit windows 7 though
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i think that's exclusive to the ultimate edition. so far the only trouble i've had with win7 64 bit was that my supplied sony software that came with my camera crashed my computer on the first day of owning it and i then found out that it weren't 64 bit compatible and so i had to do a complete reinstall of the OS and then went to the sony website and download the compatible software.
 
neil_g said:
some canon drivers for older kit dont work but thats nothing a card reader cant sort.
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Wanna bet? Ulimate won't look at mine. Or the Minolta/Sony stuff. Or the film scanners.

mastertrinity said:
i think that's exclusive to the ultimate edition.
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Ultimate isn't... trust me. I now run Ultimate x64 with XP Pro on VMWare.

Arthur

PS - Oh yeah, most Ricoh digital cameras don't do W7 either, you have to format the card with a Canon and then stick it in the Ricoh!

PPS - actually, it will read the SD card with a stick-thingie but while it admits the reader array is there it sticks it's nose up when it comes time to talk to it.
 
I haven't found any actual software that won't run under 64bit, sometimes with a bit of tweaking.
However not all equipment manufacturers issue new Drivers.

I have Belkin card reader that no longer works, even though its still on sale.
Epson Perfect 2450 scanner - Epson website says go away, and refers you to a third party application (Vuescan - which is very good, but you have to buy.)

On my new machine I'm going to put Ultimate, but that's more for my personal interest than any burning need to run XP.
 
I can whole heartedly recommend Win 7 64 bit. The only issue I had was a poorly intalled operating system and drivers. Once I had all of the correct drivers, everything works apart from my 3200 epson scanner which is dumbed down a bit. Cannon i9950 work better than ever and PS CS5 flies, as does capture NX2 on 12 gig of ram. Open 100 raw files, it doesn't even break into a sweat.


John
 
Yellowduke said:
Are the Canon camera programs all okay on 64bit then?
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I've run them all under Vista 64 and Win7 64 with no issues.

Only thing I've found that doesn't behave in 64 bit are some drives for an old USB wireless dongle, no great loss as the hardware in most of these things is very similar and after a little research I found drivers for a different dongle that worked just fine :)
 
Won't look at Minolta cameras, by implication some Sony also (though with a bit of wriggling it will read the card in the camera as a seperate removable drive). Scanners would be Veho USB ones, and Tamarack Artiscan2400 also.

Won't even entertain Ricoh-formatted cards no way no how.
 
No - that point came about with card readers, to which I replied Ulimate will not look at mine.
 
... and I was saying that Ultimate will not read my card reader!

Whatever. Ultimate 64... it just isn't.
 
I wouldnt bother, just run the 64 bit version of Win 7 and go wild. I would only do something like that if you HAD to use a specific item of software that just wont run on the other OS, but if everything you use runs on both, then its just not worth it.
 
I will go straight into Win 7 64bit then and see what happens. Thanks for the responses guys.
 
Yellowduke said:
I will go straight into Win 7 64bit then and see what happens. Thanks for the responses guys.
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Virtualisation is a wonderful thing if you have somethign you -need- to run, Windows7 Premium and upwards supports it easily, it's possible to download the stuff and run in on Home as well, just a little more faff with installing things before it'll kick off. Also, I thinksomeone else mentioned this already.

back into my box?
back into my box.
 
I still find a few uses for XP even though Windows 7 works well with most things.

You will probably find it easier to install XP first then install Windows 7.
 
I run W7 x64 Ultimate N and have not had any problems with anything so far.

There is the option to run in VM XP mode if you wish so that wold solve any issues in the future
 
eos1 said:
You will probably find it easier to install XP first then install Windows 7.
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How so?

The computer would be much, much happpier after a reformat->clean install of Win7

I've never been a fan of updating.
 
eos1 said:
I still find a few uses for XP even though Windows 7 works well with most things.

You will probably find it easier to install XP first then install Windows 7.
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You can't upgrade from windows xp > windows 7
 
I have a triple boot system running XP, Vista and Windows 7.

Easiest way for me was to install each OS on it's own drive with the other two drives disconnected then use the boot selector in the BIOS to select which drive to boot ! Just works.
 
34 replies later and apart from cowasakis everybody has told you what they think you should do and nobody has told you what you want to do.

Some years ago I use to dual boot 98 using Partition Magic. It became problematical when I switched to XP. Whilst it worked, I would constantly have problems with booting after one of the OS partitions was wiped and restored. It went downhill when Norton bought the PowerQuest company in order to kill it off, and support effectively ended. Dual booting in this manner became more trouble than it was worth.

I switched to a method similar to Cowasaki's. However, I use removable drives. A drive caddy holds a C drive. I have one with W7 and another with XP. I also have a copy of the W7 as a backup. Eventually I shall have another that I shall use as a program test drive, so I can try out programs without worrying if they will have any unforeseen effects. Just pull a drive out, put another in and boot. Simple.
 
Using the 3 drives you can just hit f8 and select the drive from the list and as they are all still connected you can transfer stuff between them easily. This works even better if you use three small drives plus one shared large drive. You can also stick another drive in for Linux and go quad boot again without any hassle.
 
steve.82 said:
Have a proper dual boot with windows and ubuntu :)
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or just Ubuntu ;)

Well, I suppose my school laptop has Ubuntu and WinXP on it. But I binned Windows on my home PC.

Vista killed windows in my eyes after none of my kit would work with it (scanner, printer, palmtop, camera ....) Ubuntu works with them all!

I've heard some good things about Windows 7 though - even from some Linux hardcore users, so it can't be all bad ;) I'll have to give it a look.
 
I have Windows 7 64 Ultimate installed on my machine and then Windows Vista 64 bit, Windows XP 64 bit, Windows Server 2003 running SQL 2005 for development and Windows 2000 all running as Virtual PC's from a second hard drive.
Only had a problem with LAN drivers on 7 but once updated all worked fine. :gag:

Forgot that I also have Ubuntu running too.
 
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