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According to a review of the Nikon D5100 in AP this week it's not a great deal bigger than a CSC anyway so they don't need to develop a new line up just shrink the existing DSLR models to compete.
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According to a review of the Nikon D5100 in AP this week it's not a great deal bigger than a CSC anyway so they don't need to develop a new line up just shrink the existing DSLR models to compete.
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There's some truth in that, but currently these cameras are being marketed as being smaller, and certainly the Sony MILCs are much smaller than any DSLR can ever be with all its mirror and viewfinder clutter.
But I think that misses the point of a MILC, which we haven't really seen yet, ie those advantages I mentioned above.
What we're seeing is early incarnations of the technology, led by those manufacturers that really don't have much market share in DSLRs, ie Sony, Samsung, Olympus and Panasonic. Or to put that another way, they've got nothing to lose whereas Canikon have everything to lose!
I think Canikon will enter soon, when their DSLR sales start to hurt, and hopefully with more advanced versions than we've currently seen. Never mind the sensor-switching shutter thing for now, but if they could just get truly DSLR-rivalling AF speed, and an electronic viewfinder that really is as good as optical, then we're in for a treat. Exciting times
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Have you ever placed a D5000 and a NEX side by side? They're a world apart. The nex and prime is smaller than an SB600. Properly pocketable, and with the same sensor as a sony DSLR, and no shutter lag.
To say they're terrible because they're not SLR's is as to complain that SLR's are terrible because they're not view cameras... missing the point entirely. Thank heavens for choice, rather than narrowing your blinkers; and rejoice in the fact that the internet, the DLSR, the CSC and modern inductrial production methods have brought the dreams of even 50 years ago right to our door...
To say they're terrible because they're not SLR's is as to complain that SLR's are terrible because they're not view cameras... missing the point entirely. Thank heavens for choice, rather than narrowing your blinkers; and rejoice in the fact that the internet, the DLSR, the CSC and modern inductrial production methods have brought the dreams of even 50 years ago right to our door...
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The body of the Sony NEX cameras are small, but the point is they are not that small when you put a lens on, especially a zoom lens.
That's kind of the whole point of the CSC design. 95% of the time my G1 has the 20mm pancake on it, and is much smaller and lighter than a full DSLR. For those occasions when I want 400mm reach, I just take the Coke can-sized lens out of the bottom of my bag and switch it over.
Do you want to compare how much space a G1 + 20 1.7 + 14-45 + 45-200 takes up....let alone weight, compared to my 5D2 + 85 1.8 + 24-105 + 100-400???
It's the difference between going out specifically to take some photos, and always having a camera with you. That's the value of the CSC, and why they are so popular.
Do you want to compare how much space a G1 + 20 1.7 + 14-45 + 45-200 takes up....let alone weight, compared to my 5D2 + 85 1.8 + 24-105 + 100-400???
It's the difference between going out specifically to take some photos, and always having a camera with you. That's the value of the CSC, and why they are so popular.
I use an Olympus Pen - mostly with the collapsible zoom or 20mm pancake - with these two lenses it's pocketable in a way that a DSLR can never be (the registration distance from the mount to the focal plane will not allow it).
If I need more reach or to use my old 50mm film prime, I can swap the lenses round, but still have a camera that I can carry in my pocket most of the time.
This is important - I've had the camera for a year and have taken over 10,000 shots with it - most of those were taken in circumstances in which I wouldn't have bothered carrying around a DSLR.
I would have missed some great photos.
Most of these are now cheap too. You can pick up an EPL-1 for less than 300 quid. It'll more than keep up with any low range DSLR in real use.
If I need more reach or to use my old 50mm film prime, I can swap the lenses round, but still have a camera that I can carry in my pocket most of the time.
This is important - I've had the camera for a year and have taken over 10,000 shots with it - most of those were taken in circumstances in which I wouldn't have bothered carrying around a DSLR.
I would have missed some great photos.
Most of these are now cheap too. You can pick up an EPL-1 for less than 300 quid. It'll more than keep up with any low range DSLR in real use.