Dried raised alien goo

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or possibly just dried up bird poo.

We've got a mark on the side of our car that has the shape of bird poo but we aren't certain it is.

The resin is laying on top of the body work, you can easily feel it with your finger. Problems is that I can't remove it. Neither the part on the window frame nor the part on the paint work.

I've tried soaking it in wet towels. I've tried manual application of polish. I've tried my rotary polished. Heck I've even tried marine metal polish.

Haven't tried a chisel or razor blade yet. I was hoping anyone has got further ideas on shifting this stubborn alien goo.

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If it is indeed bird poo, leaving wet newspaper on it is supposed to lift it. The way it has run, it doesn't look like bird poo though. Looks more like someone's spit. No idea what it is. Any chance something was dripped on the car.
 
nilagin said:
If it is indeed bird poo, leaving wet newspaper on it is supposed to lift it. The way it has run, it doesn't look like bird poo though. Looks more like someone's spit. No idea what it is. Any chance something was dripped on the car.
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Yes I'm not convinced it is bird poo. I don't recall it being there. Also how both on the metal and paint it is the same. I was thinking whether someone put glue on it.

I mean if it is spit and can't be shifted it had to be alien :)
 
It does have the milky look of glue or a resin. Not really sure what to suggest to get it off, is it raised much. Perhaps a bit of masking tape either side of it and rub it down with various grades of wet and dry paper.
 
Time to try some common solvents on a wee bit, methylated spirits, turps or nail varnish remover.
 
nilagin said:
It does have the milky look of glue or a resin. Not really sure what to suggest to get it off, is it raised much. Perhaps a bit of masking tape either side of it and rub it down with various grades of wet and dry paper.
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LOL I'm not brave enough for that. I've never been good at sanding...

Mikesphotaes said:
Time to try some common solvents on a wee bit, methylated spirits, turps or nail varnish remover.
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I might be brave enough to try that a little
 
dejongj said:
LOL I'm not brave enough for that. I've never been good at sanding...

I might be brave enough to try that a little
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If you protect the surrounding paintwork with masking tape and use the wet and dry paper wet, it may take a long time but paintwork should be safe. Any light scratches sustained by the paintwork/lacquer can be polished out with something like T-Cut or one of Poorboys paint correction products which come in various grades.
I'd give the methylated spirits a go, not so sure about nail varnish remover though, that may do a lot more harm than good.
 
Trying to remember the name of the car detailer who posts on here so you can tag him into this to get advice as to which solvents should be car paint safe.

@Raptor Mike.
 
It looks like it's eaten in to the metal at top, has it? T cut might help the paintwork
 
There's some stuff called tar spot remover ,not sure of the brand but it comes in a white bottle ,one of the better brands though ,I used it when I accidentally covered next doors white car in overspray whilst spraying my fence panels ,it looked lovely in white with thousands of baked on red cedar spots ,the tar spot remover brought it back to new though
 
Have you tried warming it with a hair dryer then using kitchen paper to soak it up if it melts? Otherwise it's paint safe solvent time I'd think.
 
DO NOT use nail varnish remover, often contains acetone which will take your paint off.
And possibly still not shift the alien gunk:confused:
Meths, iso propyl alcohol or panel wipe will be ok but will remove any wax present.
 
BruceMo said:
It looks like it's eaten in to the metal at top, has it? T cut might help the paintwork
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I don't think it has. It is on top. I did try two different polishes but as it isn't in the paint I guess it makes sense it wasn't shifting.

srichards said:
Have you tried warming it with a hair dryer then using kitchen paper to soak it up if it melts? Otherwise it's paint safe solvent time I'd think.
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I was thinking of warming it up a little. Might give that a go.


Thanks for all the suggestions.
 
Looks like bird crap, very acidic and will marr the paint like this. Get advice from a proper detailer. He would attack it with a rotary first and correct grades of cutting polish. Failing that 3000 grit sandpaper and then machine polish it out, Ive had to do this to my car before. Easy enough with the right tools. Even easier to ask a professional detailers opinion.
 
I was kinda assuming that hot soapy water had been used, certainly got rid of all bird crap on my vehicles.
 
Raptor Mike said:
If its bird crap it would mark the paint but if youve tried mopping it it wouldn't be that bad. Is it risen?
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Yes it's risen. It feels like it is on top of the paint. Very different texture and notably risen.
 
Mikesphotaes said:
I was kinda assuming that hot soapy water had been used, certainly got rid of all bird crap on my vehicles.
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Always has done one my vehicles until now. That is why I suspect it's and alien bird :) or something else.
 
Ahh just re read your post and see it is. If it was poo it could come off okay and then if it had marred the paint it would leave little pits in the shape of the poo. This can happen quite quickly but not over night. You could try some 2000 grit wet and dry (you can use it for getting lacquer scratches out) but not on the trim. Then you would need to mop the haze the 2000 would leave behind. As for the trim without knowing what it is its hard to say what you can do. I'm not sure anything like thinners would even touch resin.
 
TBH if I turned up to a job with this I would tell the customer its sh*t or bust and that I'd have a go but it might not work. What I would do is try with some 2000 grit and see how I got on, although it would take some time. Otherwise take it to a paint shop and see what they say. I've got concrete off cars before but that's a lot easier lol
 
I'm suspecting malice. There has been lots of trouble between two schools. But often we have to park up near the rival school. It's not the first time they've been damaging vehicles.
 
the black fox said:
There's some stuff called tar spot remover ,not sure of the brand but it comes in a white bottle ,one of the better brands though ,I used it when I accidentally covered next doors white car in overspray whilst spraying my fence panels ,it looked lovely in white with thousands of baked on red cedar spots ,the tar spot remover brought it back to new though
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Tar remover is good at removing some paint but I don't think it would touch resin. But good thinking though.
 
I'd speak to a good car valeter/detailer, but you could try a `clay bar` first to see if it works.
 
OldCarlos said:
I'd speak to a good car valeter/detailer, but you could try a `clay bar` first to see if it works.
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I am a good car valeter/detailer. I've been doing it self emploied since 2008 ;)
IMHO resin would be to hard for a claybar. But still ask him in case he has any better ideas than I've suggested :)
 
It only suspected resin though ,another good mark remover is petrol that should dissolve most surface goo .without seeing it first hand it's hard to diagnose though,bit like a doctor sorting out a illness over the phone
 
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If attempts with various solvents/cleaners fail, before attacking it with wet & dry I'd consider trying a sharp flat blade of some description (a stanley type blade would work well).

Hold it flush on the paintwork and see if you can get under the dried alien slime to lift it off.

Even if you can get under the hard surface of whatever it is, it may then allow you to use solvents/cleaners to remove the rest. Best case is that you might just be able to lift it clean off :)
 
Russ77 said:
If attempts with various solvents/cleaners fail, before attacking it with wet & dry I'd consider trying a sharp flat blade of some description (a stanley type blade would work well).

Hold it flush on the paintwork and see if you can get under the dried alien slime to lift it off.

Even if you can get under the hard surface of whatever it is, it may then allow you to use solvents/cleaners to remove the rest. Best case is that you might just be able to lift it clean off :)
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I was considering using our hob glass scraper, but didn't feel brave enough :)
 
dejongj said:
I was considering using our hob glass scraper, but didn't feel brave enough :)
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If you keep the blade as flat as possible and use as little pressure as possible you shouldn't do too much harm (if any) :)

Used this technique on my brother's van when someone on the site he was working literally showered it in resin!!! White van, nearly clear resin..... I think I went snowblind :lol:
 
My only fear of using a scraper would be if the substance is truly stuck to the lacquer, the lacquer may well come off with it. I still favour localised sanding with heavily wetted wet and dry. It will be a long drawn out process though. You'd need to stick a slim piece of the wet and dry to something narrow to confine the sanding to just the substance.
The more I look at the photo, the more it looks like lacquer which dries milky white in cold temperatures.
 
nilagin said:
My only fear of using a scraper would be if the substance is truly stuck to the lacquer, the lacquer may well come off with it. I still favour localised sanding with heavily wetted wet and dry. It will be a long drawn out process though. You'd need to stick a slim piece of the wet and dry to something narrow to confine the sanding to just the substance.
The more I look at the photo, the more it looks like lacquer which dries milky white in cold temperatures.
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You are right. It looks a bit like what you can get with alloy wheels where water gets underneath the lacquer.
 
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