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Yet another waste of time, it seems like it was only 12 months ago, that we did it :(
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Just under 12 months - it was the 25th last year! :P

About 1/2 of ours do it automatically so I'll have to grab one of them and see which disagree with it after I've done all the ones I remember! Cameras all stay set to GMT.

At least I might sleep until 06:00 tomorrow.
 
Just under 12 months - it was the 25th last year! :p
There is alway one smart arse :p

It is 12 months, March-March but if you want to split hairs its only 364 days
:D
 
Precious few hairs left to split these days! :D :P

Still a PITA every 6 months (or so).
 
Just under 12 months - it was the 25th last year! :p

About 1/2 of ours do it automatically so I'll have to grab one of them and see which disagree with it after I've done all the ones I remember! Cameras all stay set to GMT.

At least I might sleep until 06:00 tomorrow.

It's the 25th this year.
You're supposed to do it at 1am. ;)
 
True but the point's still valid in that it's a different date. :P

Not sure exactly when the RC clocks actually do the change - always well asleep (or between micro sleeps) by then! I usually do the ones I remember before we head upstairs on the Saturday night.
 
That extra hour of daylight in an evening is well worth a few minutes changing some clocks, really don't know why people moan about it.
But I lose an hour of daylight in the morning, and so do many other out side workers, such as farmers.
Many people start work at proper times not half way through the day.
This all started 102 years ago, to assist farmers with their work.

There really is no logical reason to put the clocks forward especially in this day and age of halogen floodlights / diesel generators !
 
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But I lose an hour of daylight in the morning, and so do many other out side workers, such as farmers.

For a few weeks only. At the height of summer, it's light before 4am, how early do you need it to be light?

Many people start work at proper times not half way through the day.

I think you meant to say "different" rather than "proper" there. ;)

This all started 102 years ago, to assist farmers with their work.

But you've just complained that farmers are losing out

There really is no logical reason to put the clocks forward especially in this day and age of halogen floodlights / diesel generators !

Halogen floodlights and diesel generators? What have they got to do with daylight?
 
But I lose an hour of daylight in the morning, and so do many other out side workers, such as farmers.
Many people start work at proper times not half way through the day.
This all started 102 years ago, to assist farmers with their work.

There really is no logical reason to put the clocks forward especially in this day and age of halogen floodlights / diesel generators !

And they gain an hour in the evening.
Swings and roundabouts. :D
 
At the height of summer, it's light before 4am,
Yes but that's a few months away yet
I think you meant to say "different" rather than "proper" there. ;)
I was right first time :p
But you've just complained that farmers are losing out
Think about it, It was started to give them an extra hour in the evening...
Not an extra hour of darkness in the morning.

Halogen floodlights and diesel generators? What have they got to do with daylight?
As above, it was designed to give them an extra hour of daylight in the evening.
Its now rather an archaic concept, there is plenty of other light sources that can be and are used for outside workers these days,
without fear of "Jerry" using lights as targets ;)
I often see Large farm vehicles working in the dark with artificial light, and landfill sites lit up light Wembley stadium, with artificial light sources.

And they gain an hour in the evening.
Swings and roundabouts. :D
As above it doesn't matter in today's modern society, its an out dated concept.

I think it was a Red Indian chief who said;
"Only an idiot would think that by cutting a piece off the bottom of a blanket and sewing it on the top would result in a longer blanket." :)
Exactly!
 
Yes but that's a few months away yet

Maybe but, as said, the hour of daylight that is lost when the clocks go forward is gained back in just a few weeks.

Think about it, It was started to give them an extra hour in the evening...
Not an extra hour of darkness in the morning.

I fail to see what one has to do wth the other.

As above, it was designed to give them an extra hour of daylight in the evening.
Its now rather an archaic concept, there is plenty of other light sources that can be and are used for outside workers these days,
without fear of "Jerry" using lights as targets ;)
I often see Large farm vehicles working in the dark with artificial light, and landfill sites lit up light Wembley stadium, with artificial light sources.

And those light sources can be utilised in the morning as well.


I know people use the term "longer days" but it's not supposed to be taken literally. Fo r the majority of people, it just means that they will see an extra hour of daylight.
 
I fail to see what one has to do wth the other.
Its quite simple really, Some people gain an extra hour of day light in the evening, some people lose an hour of daylight in the morning.

And those light sources can be utilised in the morning as well.
Of course they can / are.
But you are missing the main point, there is no logical reason in this day and age to mess about with the clocks
its an out dated 100+ year old concept that has no reason to continue in this day and age.

Fo r the majority of people, it just means that they will see an extra hour of daylight.
They can always get up an hour earlier if they want that extra hour of daylight, but of course the majority won't, unless of course, like now, its dictated by the government.
 
For those who don't want the time to change twice per year, would you prefer GMT or BST all year round?
 
Of course they can / are.
But you are missing the main point, there is no logical reason in this day and age to mess about with the clocks
its an out dated 100+ year old concept that has no reason to continue in this day and age.

Not missing the point at all. That extra hour of daylight in the evening benefits people.

They can always get up an hour earlier if they want that extra hour of daylight, but of course the majority won't, unless of course, like now, its dictated by the government.

Now you're just being silly.
 
For those who don't want the time to change twice per year, would you prefer GMT or BST all year round?
GMT would suit me better, But if they left it as +1 I wouldn't lobby my MP or start a thread about it ;)

That extra hour of daylight in the evening benefits people.
I've no idea how, besides, there is no extra hour of daylight its always been there, people are just getting up earlier,
and now calling 18:30 19:30 a rose by any other name.

Now you're just being silly.
:rolleyes: pulling teeth is easier.
Why can't you understand the most people are now getting up an hour earlier in their working week, than they did last Friday morning.

100+ years ago, there may well have been a point to help the war effort to get people up an hour earlier,
and they ( probably) were happy to work outside for that so called extra hour of "daylight" to help the war effort.
Its now an out dated concept, in todays modern society.
 
That extra hour of daylight in the evening benefits people.


So did the extra hour of daylight in the morning.
 
I've no idea how, besides, there is no extra hour of daylight its always been there, people are just getting up earlier,
and now calling 18:30 19:30 a rose by any other name.

No, the extra hour of daylight is there as the whole day is shifted. People may be getting up an hour earlier but they're also finishing work earlier which means more daylight for leisure time. Also, more time for kids to be out rather than spending time on the computer or watching TV.

Another example: Mrs F has a business working with horses (as well as her day job. That extra hour of daylight means that she can start seeing clients on an evening. As you well know, livery yards aren't it up like Wembley Stadium.

:rolleyes: pulling teeth is easier.
Why can't you understand the most people are now getting up an hour earlier in their working week, than they did last Friday morning.

100+ years ago, there may well have been a point to help the war effort to get people up an hour earlier,
and they ( probably) were happy to work outside for that so called extra hour of "daylight" to help the war effort.
Its now an out dated concept, in todays modern society.

People are also going to bed an hour earlier so it's neither here nor there. You're just trying to make out that there's an issue where there really isn't one.

So did the extra hour of daylight in the morning.

But probably nowhere near as many.
 
A silly concept, period.
Now we have to strugle harder to put kids asleep at night.
Get Up one hour earlier to get to work and at this time og year thats stealing our morning light making our Day shorter since we'll be in bed long be sundown
Deers along our motorways colides with morning traffic because of the sudden shift.
Then there is stress and health issues which are actually real.
 
I think it was a Red Indian chief who said;

"Only an idiot would think that by cutting a piece off the bottom of a blanket and sewing it on the top would result in a longer blanket." :)

I'm fed up with people who spoil something you have believed in for years.
 
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A silly concept, period.
Now we have to strugle harder to put kids asleep at night.
Get Up one hour earlier to get to work and at this time og year thats stealing our morning light making our Day shorter since we'll be in bed long be sundown
Deers along our motorways colides with morning traffic because of the sudden shift.
Then there is stress and health issues which are actually real.

You got up at 7am (for instance) to go to work on Friday morning and you'll get up at 7am to go to work tomorrow.
You're not "getting up earlier".
 
Also, more time for kids to be out rather than spending time on the computer or watching TV.
Do you honestly believe that? I certainly don't
That extra hour of daylight means that she can start seeing clients on an evening
Fine, it suits your lifestyle or at least Mrs F's
However Soeren and I have a different take on it. V
Get Up one hour earlier to get to work and at this time og year thats stealing our morning light making our Day shorter since we'll be in bed long be sundown
Exactly! you and me both.

People are also going to bed an hour earlier
Bed earlier, yes, sleep is a different matter. It takes time to adjust, whether that's holidaying abroad or time shifts here.
Both my kids are grown, but as @soeren noted many people have small children, who don't understand the concept of "going to bed early, because they need to be up earlier"

I'm fed up with people who spoil something you have believed in for years.
Those damned "Natives" have a lot to answer for eh? :p
 
But probably nowhere near as many.

Ask those of us that start early
It was just getting light enough to see what I was doing when I get to work, now it's going to be pitch balck
again and walking to work in the dark
The clocks going forward effectively mean a 4am start in the morning now, 5am is just about tolerable

A few years back I knew Livestock farmers who cursed the changing clocks, cows don't understand the changes
and still want to be milked at the same time
 
Cattle adapt within ten days. Humans in less.
 
Do you honestly believe that? I certainly don't

Yes. I see kids playing outside all the time when it's light. I don't spend any time complaining about "kids of today..."

Fine, it suits your lifestyle or at least Mrs F's
However Soeren and I have a different take on it. V

I'm sure you do, never said that you shouldn't.

Bed earlier, yes, sleep is a different matter. It takes time to adjust, whether that's holidaying abroad or time shifts here

Seriously? Jet lag over an hour's difference? Only takes a couple of days for most people when they travel from the US!
 
Cattle adapt within ten days. Humans in less.

There are still farmers who chose to ignore the clocks and keep milking routines rather then have the yield drop and lose money

As has already been mentioned, small humans take a while to adapt, not an easy thing when the parents still have to get to work as well
as getting the child up and ready for school/nursery etc. Getting them to bed can be as bad and surprisingly parents do like a bit
of time to themselves at the end of the day to wind down
 
There are still farmers who chose to ignore the clocks and keep milking routines rather then have the yield drop and lose money

As has already been mentioned, small humans take a while to adapt, not an easy thing when the parents still have to get to work as well
as getting the child up and ready for school/nursery etc. Getting them to bed can be as bad and surprisingly parents do like a bit
of time to themselves at the end of the day to wind down

Clue's right there. The smart ones begin to adapt their herd in increments in advance.
Perhaps parents could too.
The clock changes hardly creep up as a surprise.
 
You got up at 7am (for instance) to go to work on Friday morning and you'll get up at 7am to go to work tomorrow.
You're not "getting up earlier".
Try 4:30. 2 hours comuting and students depending on us being there on time. And no I can't just let my colleque be alone with 50+ students the first hour. This concept "summertime" is an artificial idea with no real benefits and yes Im getting up one hour earlier.
 
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For those who don't want the time to change twice per year, would you prefer GMT or BST all year round?
GMT then Noon is noon (more or less). Oh and this silly idea of changing clocks was first suggested by that kite flying maniac Benjamin Franklin. However he was not being serious he was being rude about the French who turned up late to meetings.
 
GMT then Noon is noon (more or less). Oh and this silly idea of changing clocks was first suggested by that kite flying maniac Benjamin Franklin. However he was not being serious he was being rude about the French who turned up late to meetings.

So, your work start time is an hour earlier than it was?
 
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