Dog walkers gggrrrrrr

Ricardodaforce said:
Maybe today, but soon everyone will have the technology in hand to do so. The chips contains an RFID unit. Soon all mobile phones will have them too. The mobiles will passively detect any RFID chip within range.
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apple will release an app called iBite which immediately sends out a text message to the police saying who you are, where you were bitten nd what the dogs ID is
 
joescrivens said:
apple will release an app called iBite which immediately sends out a text message to the police saying who you are, where you were bitten nd what the dogs ID is
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If that was true it would be the worst app ever devised. First you have to have an I phone and second the dog should have to be chipped so you need 8 million dogs chipped and the whole country using I phones. :lol:
 
Johnd2000 said:
When ladders start running across roads to bite a kids face off, then yes, we should probably control them as well.

We had that same, weak, argument raised when discussing gun control recently. Presumably you're against the current rules on car insurance on that basis?

Lots of dogs have microchips these days. How hard would it be to set up an insurance database, like we have for cars?
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most dogs don't run accross roads and bite a kids face off either - the vast majority of serious maulings happen inthe home - and the parents need to take responsibility for their kid's safety - if fido bites little jonny in 99% of cases it will be because little jonny did something to provoke it, so if parents taught children to respect animals , and kept an eye on what kids were doing it would happen a lot less

never mind dog licencing , let's licence people to have kids , can't pass a simple parental responsbility test, no licence and compulsory sterilisasion - problem solved ("seconds to godwin" 60, 59, 58.... :lol:)
 
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pepi1967 said:
If that was true it would be the worst app ever devised. First you have to have an I phone and second the dog should have to be chipped so you need 8 million dogs chipped and the whole country using I phones. :lol:
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everyone will be using iphones in the future because apple will have taken over the world and sued everyne so iphones will be the only phone in existence
 
I don't fancy getting bitten on the jonny :shake:
 
joescrivens said:
everyone will be using iphones in the future because apple will have taken over the world and sued everyne so iphones will be the only phone in existence
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:lol:
 
pepi1967 said:
If that was true it would be the worst app ever devised. First you have to have an I phone and second the dog should have to be chipped so you need 8 million dogs chipped and the whole country using I phones. :lol:
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as part of the govt initiative to deal with this masive problems I phones will be given away free to the whole population, a masive recruitment of dogwardens and police will be undertaken in order to deal with all the reports (spurious and otherwise), and a whole new circuit of dog courts will be set up

as a result of this massive investment the problem will be reduced to only happening in the home... oh wait a moment thats where it mostly happens anyway :bang:
 
big soft moose said:
most dogs don't run accross roads and bite a kids face off either - the vast majority of serious maulings happen inthe home - and the parents need to take responsibility for their kid's safety - if fido bites little jonny in 99% of cases it will be because little jonny did something to provoke it, so if parents taught children to respect animals , and kept and idea on what kids were doing it would happen a lot less

never mind dog licencing , let's licence people to have kids , can't pass a simple parental responsbility test, no licence and compulsory sterilisasion - problem solved )
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Abso-bloody-lutely! :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
 
Not to mention.... lets picture the scene.... dog running round in a large open space, runs in direction of a toddler, who sees it coming and screams, dog runs off before it ever gets to child.... how long before people are claiming for 'hurt feelings' or 'fear' ....
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No chance of that with Stealth Pup, Viv.

He runs in slow motion now......... Takes ages to get across a park.

I blame advertisers.


Apple and Tesco rule the world

Tesco now do Kitchens... in 3 levels.. budget to Luxury......
 
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joescrivens said:
apple will release an app called iBite which immediately sends out a text message to the police saying who you are, where you were bitten nd what the dogs ID is
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so if someone was attacked by a thousand dogs at once that would be a kilobite ? :lol:
 
big soft moose said:
most dogs don't run accross roads and bite a kids face off either - the vast majority of serious maulings happen inthe home - and the parents need to take responsibility for their kid's safety - if fido bites little jonny in 99% of cases it will be because little jonny did something to provoke it, so if parents taught children to respect animals , and kept an eye on what kids were doing it would happen a lot less

never mind dog licencing , let's licence people to have kids , can't pass a simple parental responsbility test, no licence and compulsory sterilisasion - problem solved ("seconds to godwin" 60, 59, 58.... :lol:)
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So having to pay for insurance would presumably put some of these irresponsible owners off would'nt it? That's the point.

And I fail to see what children have to do with this thread. It says a lot that some dog owners resort to threatening children so easily. If youre saying a toddler who provokes a dog gets what he/she deserves, then there's really no point in discussing it with you.
 
Johnd2000 said:
So having to pay for insurance would presumably put some of these irresponsible owners off would'nt it? That's the point.

And I fail to see what children have to do with this thread. It says a lot that some dog owners resort to threatening children so easily. If youre saying a toddler who provokes a dog gets what he/she deserves, then there's really no point in discussing it with you.
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Cause that really works with cars iirc 1 in 5 cars are driven without insurance, so do you really think that insurance would put people who have "dangerous" dogs off of keeping them, I don't.
Also it is not the dog that is dangerous it is the way the owner trains them in 99% of cases, see my earlier post for an explanation of the other possible 1%.
 
JayD said:
I haven't seen or read about a child being actually threatened. :shrug:
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Nope, though there have been calls them to also be leashed in public places (and muzzled if appropriate) :lol: :exit:
 
Micro chip the kids with GPS so we know we're they are at all times.
 
Johnd2000 said:
So having to pay for insurance would presumably put some of these irresponsible owners off would'nt it? That's the point.

And I fail to see what children have to do with this thread. It says a lot that some dog owners resort to threatening children so easily. If youre saying a toddler who provokes a dog gets what he/she deserves, then there's really no point in discussing it with you.
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:lol: NO, thats the whole point!! It would be so unmanageable that they would simply ignore the need for insurance and have the dog anyway, in the same way certain idiots will drive uninsured. At least a car has a number plate which is a starting point, and whilst in the future there may be technology that will allow more 'distant' reading of microchips using phones, do you really think the same people are going to have the dog chipped?

...and btw /mod hat on/ - I have seen NO genuine threats to kids in this thread, only tongue in cheek references to the fact that some parents are even more irresponsible with their children or using it to make a comparative point. However, if you feel someone IS threatening children, please do RTM it for the other mods to take a look at :thumbs: /mod hat off/



Look, the fact is, as dog owners, we are fully aware that some people just don't like dogs, and I think everyone that has posted here is very much in favour of responsible dog ownership. There has to be a little give and take from both sides - if a dog comes charging over to you, its wrong, the dog should be under a little more control than that, but chances are its not doing it in order to knock you over and maul your face off either. If I was the owner of the dog mentioned in the OP, I would be mortified, but luckily its not a position I have ever been in with mine and would hope that continues. Mind you, as both a photographer and a dog owner, I would be holding onto a tripod in a dog walking area anyway, but thats one of those things having a perspective on tends to make you think about, so can't really blame the OP for not doing either.
 
Johnd2000 said:
When ladders start running across roads to bite a kids face off, then yes, we should probably control them as well.

We had that same, weak, argument raised when discussing gun control recently. Presumably you're against the current rules on car insurance on that basis?

Lots of dogs have microchips these days. How hard would it be to set up an insurance database, like we have for cars?
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Have you not read my other posts? Your comment about dog "running across the road trying to bite a child's face off" shows how ignorant you're being?

What has it got to do with car insurance or my views in it?

Bur as you asked, I feel cars should be insured, but dog owners shouldn't legally be obliged to have public liability insurance.
 
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Johnd2000 said:
**$$*So having to pay for insurance would presumably put some of these irresponsible owners off would'nt it? That's the point.*****

And I fail to see what children have to do with this thread. It says a lot that some dog owners resort to threatening children so easily. If youre saying a toddler who provokes a dog gets what he/she deserves, then there's really no point in discussing it with you.
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How naive. Do you think everyone on the road is insured?! As with scrotes and cars, the scrotes will still get the dog, but not the insurance.

But this has been covered in this thread already.
 
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Johnd2000 said:
So having to pay for insurance would presumably put some of these irresponsible owners off wouldn't it? That's the point.

And I fail to see what children have to do with this thread. It says a lot that some dog owners resort to threatening children so easily. If youre saying a toddler who provokes a dog gets what he/she deserves, then there's really no point in discussing it with you.
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On the first no it wouldnt - just like the cost of car insurance doesnt put off the 'chav with a corsa' element , they either don't bother to insure it (despite the legal implication) or they lie to DVLA in order to get cheaper insurance thus invalidating in the case of a claim - same thing would happen with dog insurance which why is unworkable.

on the second I'm not saying that a toddler that gets bitten deserves it, just like dogs , toddlers don't really know any better. What i'm saying is that just as a dog owner is responsible for the behaviour of his dog, a parent is responsible for the behaviour of their child and parents need to control their child and stop it from , for example, running over and grabbing a dog round the neck.
 
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Yv said:
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Look, the fact is, as dog owners, we are fully aware that some people just don't like dogs, and I think everyone that has posted here is very much in favour of responsible dog ownership. There has to be a little give and take from both sides - if a dog comes charging over to you, its wrong, the dog should be under a little more control than that, but chances are its not doing it in order to knock you over and maul your face off either. If I was the owner of the dog mentioned in the OP, I would be mortified, but luckily its not a position I have ever been in with mine and would hope that continues. Mind you, as both a photographer and a dog owner, I would be holding onto a tripod in a dog walking area anyway, but thats one of those things having a perspective on tends to make you think about, so can't really blame the OP for not doing either.
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This, i am fully aware that not everyone likes dogs, so i will go out of my way to make sure that my hounds don't bother anyone, yes I love them but don't kid myself that everyone else does, if i had been the dog owner in the original post i would have been grovelling profusely and offering to pay for any damage, just like the guy did to me last week at North landing when his English Pointer came barreling over to me while i was sat on the sand with camera on a tripod
 
big soft moose said:
What i'm saying is that just as a dog owner is responsible for the behaviour of his dog, a parent is responsible for the behaviour of their child and parents need to control their child and stop it from , for example, running over and grabbing a dog round the neck.
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I've lost count of the number of times this has happened to me, my springer spaniel is very placid but when I point out to the childs parents that not all dogs may be so tollerent they look at me as if it's somehow all my fault.

Alan
 
Alanem said:
I've lost count of the number of times this has happened to me, my springer spaniel is very placid but when I point out to the childs parents that not all dogs may be so tollerent they look at me as if it's somehow all my fault.

Alan
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I'm at a nightmare stage of trying to get my 18 month old to stay away from dogs. He tends to either be in pram, trike or attached to reigns but he'll still stick a hand out to try and touch a dog. He needs to know that not all dogs are like gran & grandad's collie. Torture.
 
Alanem said:
I've lost count of the number of times this has happened to me, my springer spaniel is very placid but when I point out to the childs parents that not all dogs may be so tollerent they look at me as if it's somehow all my fault.

Alan
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yeah i'm a countryside ranger so my dog comes to work with me and meets a fair selection of the public on a daily basis - thus shes used to the various arse witted things people do and doesnt react badly (even when some numpty child tried to clip her ears together with a clothes peg , while i was talking to the parent, all she did was whine a bit )
 
Alanem said:
I've lost count of the number of times this has happened to me, my springer spaniel is very placid but when I point out to the childs parents that not all dogs may be so tollerent they look at me as if it's somehow all my fault.

Alan
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Spot on.
 
I'm at a nightmare stage of trying to get my 18 month old to stay away from dogs. He tends to either be in pram, trike or attached to reigns but he'll still stick a hand out to try and touch a dog
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Answer is very simple. A baby bouncer seat attached to a Helium balloon with radio controlled motors.

You can guide him through the park above your head. Brilliant!!!!



yeah i'm a countryside ranger so my dog comes to work with me
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Hehehehehehehehe.............. Do you dress like a Mounty Pete?
 
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Alanem said:
I've lost count of the number of times this has happened to me, my springer spaniel is very placid but when I point out to the childs parents that not all dogs may be so tollerent they look at me as if it's somehow all my fault.

Alan
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My worst nightmare, because i do have a very pretty springer spaniel that would bite, i do one bit of on lead walking where this is likely to happen and millie is always on the side against the fence furthest away from people
 
Daryl said:
Answer is very simple. A baby bouncer seat attached to a Helium balloon with radio controlled motors.

You can guide him through the park above your head. Brilliant!!!!

Hehehehehehehehe.............. Do you dress like a Mounty Pete?
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He would love that, do they also come in adult sizes?
 
Make a dog type soup, full of the nutrients they need to survive, a bit like beer is for us humans........then there would be no reason for dogs to have teeth, perfectly safe all round.

As you can tell not a fan, make your house and car stiink, and picking up **** is no my Idea of fun, and if I wanted a stick to come back I wouldn't have thrown it in the first place or bought a boomerang..........

Nowt wrong with a gold fish.
 
big soft moose said:
not really - the thread is about the circumstances that led up to the damage - its hardly off that topic.

and as per post 1 the tripods smashed and the lens is chipped - what further info were you expecting ?
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Crying over spilled milk in my book,hardly the end of the world ...eh ,yeh maybe the dog shouldn't have been running lose like it was ,but jeez there's more to life is there not ,or maybe there isn't ?
 
Studi0488 said:
Nowt wrong with a gold fish.
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'cept most folk with just a goldfish (not those with aquariums) see them floating and flush them every few weeks / months when they're not actually dead....just sick with overfeeding / swim bladder problems. Remarkable how many live goldfish get flushed :D
 
Ah Craig. I'm not a dog fan either. But the Wire fox Terror is half dog half bear.

The have no smell, even when wet. smell like Scottish shortbread.

And don't loose any hair at all. Have to be stripped 3 times a year.

would never have dogs that slobber and shed hair.... yuk

Sean, just a question. Must be near Brigadoon.
 
joescrivens said:
I assume you made sure both dogs were put down?
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Is this a serious or sarcastic comment, because I just cannot decide which?
On the first occasion I called the police about twenty minutes after the incident, but they could not be bothered to take the matter further, despite telling me that another walker had been bitten around the same time as myself.
The second incident made me wonder what I would do if it happened again, and I reckon that I may lose the plot totally and assault the owner or do my best to finish off the dog.


Probably not what you wanted to hear, but when a normal person's patience wears thin, then sheer frustration and anger will take over.

Dog owners may find their pets funny or cute, but when they attack someone it is not a laughing matter, and to be honest, if they find themselves on the end of an act of retaliation - so be it.
 
andy700 said:
Is this a serious or sarcastic comment, because I just cannot decide which?
On the first occasion I called the police about twenty minutes after the incident, but they could not be bothered to take the matter further, despite telling me that another walker had been bitten around the same time as myself.
The second incident made me wonder what I would do if it happened again, and I reckon that I may lose the plot totally and assault the owner or do my best to finish off the dog.

Probably not what you wanted to hear, but when a normal person's patience wears thin, then sheer frustration and anger will take over.

Dog owners may find their pets funny or cute, but when they attack someone it is not a laughing matter, and to be honest, if they find themselves on the end of an act of retaliation - so be it.
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The police probably didn't feel the need to arrest the dog, and question it for hours. They never say much anyway...

FYI unless its a very serious injury, it simply isn't a police matter.
 
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odd jim said:
The police probably didn't feel the need to arrest the dog, and question it for hours. They never say much anyway...

FYI unless its a very serious injury, it simply isn't a police matter.
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The cuffs keep slipping off the paws. :D
 
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