Does your camera dictate your photography or does your photography dictate your camera?

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Thing is it's a forum, a discussion place, a designated area within a city for discussions. There will always be sides to discussions, those for and those against the subject discussed and other interested parties, but the point of a discussion is to talk about things that interest you.

OP, You haven't actually written anything to discuss, nor provided real content as to your intentions. You haven't set out your side of the argument, just a throwaway statement. Fine to start with it, but then set out your position, what you think and why. Give us something to discuss, to agree, raise points about, against. Then you might find we can have a proper discussion rather than people getting suspicious about your motives.
 
TheBigYin said:
well - from the forum rules, it's pretty much clear what the stance is on that...



Mainly the highlighted part, though it could come under the "not within the spirit of our community" if the person running the research is also being deceptive as to why he's asking the questions...
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Fair dues, but does that give everybody the right to start willy waving?

If it breaks the rules and it offends you then report it and move on!!
 
ecoleman said:
Fair dues, but does that give everybody the right to start willy waving?

If it breaks the rules and it offends you then report it and move on!!
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hes a moderator - duh
 
My answer is both and I guess the OP is not breaking any rules, as he is still here!
 
ecoleman said:
Your point being??
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presumably that if I notice something, it's slightly redundant for me to report it and let another moderator deal with it.

Actually, the first thing we do in these cases (if it hasn't already been reported that is) IS to report it and set up a thread to discuss any action needed in the staff room - its about providing an audit trail for our actions, and evidence for any future examples of cockwomble-ery that may occur...
 
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TheBigYin said:
presumably that if I notice something, it's slightly redundant for me to report it and let another moderator deal with it.

Actually, the first thing we do in these cases (if it hasn't already been reported that is) IS to report it and set up a thread to discuss any action needed in the staff room - its about providing an audit trail for our actions, and evidence for any future examples of cockwomble-ery that may occur...
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I wasn't meaning you. I was meaning all the other people that waded in to have a go at the OP starting at post 3.
 
maybe they were just veterans of some or all the other interrogations threads I linked to...
 
TheBigYin said:
presumably that if I notice something, it's slightly redundant for me to report it and let another moderator deal with it...
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badabing, you win the cuddly wookie toy
 
ecoleman said:
Fair dues, but does that give everybody the right to start willy waving?

If it breaks the rules and it offends you then report it and move on!!
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also can you not see the implicit irony in this post that the fact that people 'willy waving' has it seems offended you, but you arent just reporting it and moving on ?
 
seems reasonable to me - don't eat too much or you'll start to resemble a wookie again yourself
 
ecoleman said:
For gods sake, grow up.
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I could say much the same to you - because i don't agree with you and have dared to point out the inherent contradiction in your post its me thats imature, yeah... erm... okay

Here's a thought. TBY is a mod, Marcel is an administrator - neither of them seem to have a problem with the posts you consider willy waving but both have an issue with the covert research ... it may be time to consider the possibility that you arent completely correct about this one and retire gracefully instead of making yourself look increasingly daft
 
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I see quite a number of lame attempts at entertainment above - do people have nothing better to do?
 
I see a lame attempt at regulating the discussion above - do people have nothing better to do?
 
Byker28i said:
Thing is it's a forum, a discussion place, a designated area within a city for discussions. There will always be sides to discussions, those for and those against the subject discussed and other interested parties, but the point of a discussion is to talk about things that interest you.

OP, You haven't actually written anything to discuss, nor provided real content as to your intentions. You haven't set out your side of the argument, just a throwaway statement. Fine to start with it, but then set out your position, what you think and why. Give us something to discuss, to agree, raise points about, against. Then you might find we can have a proper discussion rather than people getting suspicious about your motives.
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While I don't want to prolong this thread that has veered from its original topic into an unfortunate and stressful "court hearing" about me and my thread where many of you have become prosecutors and reduced me into the unwilling position of a defendant, let me say that I actually set out my position and thoughts about the topic when I was asked about it (see here: https://www.talkphotography.co.uk/t...aphy-dictate-your-camera.615949/#post-7276639). Do you think that in a discussion the person starting it should provide their viewpoints, positions, and ideas about the topic from the beginning? I don't think so, since that would colour the ensuing expressed viewpoints or even worse, kill the discussion from the beginning by discouraging further viewpoints. But since I am being so accused, I will not post any further thread before I do a thorough research about the topic I am posting about and only then post something more akin to a research paper on my thread topic, in addition to my own views about the topic. I think that that should put a stop to this nonsense prosecution of the OP, but unfortunately probably at the cost of an aborted discussion. One further point, how is one supposed to ask a question if one is expected to know the answers beforehand? I was asking the question of the topic because I genuinely wanted to find out how it was in the experience of other photographers. But unfortunately, the online milieu (and this forum in particular) seems to be infected with paranoia.
 
PhotographyBuff said:
Do you think that in a discussion the person starting it should provide their viewpoints, positions, and ideas about the topic from the beginning?
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Yes. At least once in a while.

Your rigid format for asking these questions is not welcoming or encouraging to those reading them. I know you don't see the opposing point of view, but you write in the style of an exam board - cold, impersonal and demanding opinions of others without apparently having one of your own. It's exactly the format used by lazy students wanting help with a homework question - the place for that is Yahoo Answers - and we get those regularly. If this isn't you, then ffs review your style from everyone else point of view and listen to what's being said. It isn't one or two members here that have observed this pattern in your question, it's a considerable number of well educated and erudite members of long standing.
 
Alastair said:
Yes. At least once in a while.

Your rigid format for asking these questions is not welcoming or encouraging to those reading them. I know you don't see the opposing point of view, but you write in the style of an exam board - cold, impersonal and demanding opinions of others without apparently having one of your own. It's exactly the format used by lazy students wanting help with a homework question - the place for that is Yahoo Answers - and we get those regularly. If this isn't you, then ffs review your style from everyone else point of view and listen to what's being said. It isn't one or two members here that have observed this pattern in your question, it's a considerable number of well educated and erudite members of long standing.
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Would you review your photography style to please others? How original would that be? I wouldn't. And so too, I won't review my writing style to please you or this forum. And if need be, I will ask for a "self-requested ban" to finally end this prosecution once and for all.
 
PhotographyBuff said:
Answer it in two senses: how it actually is in your experience, and how you believe it ideally should be.
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^ you think this is a writing style suitable for an informal discussion on a friendly forum.
 
Alastair said:
^ you think this is a writing style suitable for an informal discussion on a friendly forum.
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Why not? I am not forcing you to answer. I am talking only to those who have chosen to answer the question. By the way what is so frightening to you about exam boards?
 
PhotographyBuff said:
Would you review your photography style to please others? How original would that be? I wouldn't. And so too, I won't review my writing style to please you or this forum. And if need be, I will ask for a "self-requested ban" to finally end this prosecution once and for all.
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Prosecution?
 
PhotographyBuff said:
While I don't want to prolong this thread that has veered from its original topic into an unfortunate and stressful "court hearing" about me and my thread where many of you have become prosecutors and reduced me into the unwilling position of a defendant, let me say that I actually set out my position and thoughts about the topic when I was asked about it (see here: https://www.talkphotography.co.uk/t...aphy-dictate-your-camera.615949/#post-7276639). Do you think that in a discussion the person starting it should provide their viewpoints, positions, and ideas about the topic from the beginning? I don't think so, since that would colour the ensuing expressed viewpoints or even worse, kill the discussion from the beginning by discouraging further viewpoints. But since I am being so accused, I will not post any further thread before I do a thorough research about the topic I am posting about and only then post something more akin to a research paper on my thread topic, in addition to my own views about the topic. I think that that should put a stop to this nonsense prosecution of the OP, but unfortunately probably at the cost of an aborted discussion. One further point, how is one supposed to ask a question if one is expected to know the answers beforehand? I was asking the question of the topic because I genuinely wanted to find out how it was in the experience of other photographers. But unfortunately, the online milieu (and this forum in particular) seems to be infected with paranoia.
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Do you think, perhaps, that if you put that discussion point forward in post 1, rather than post 9 after challenged, this thread may have gone another way? Encouraged discussion rather than questioning your methods?

Perhaps theres a lesson there for us all?
 
droj said:
I see quite a number of lame attempts at entertainment above - do people have nothing better to do?
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No, I don't really - other than polishing my Jackboots again (it's a long story, from a thread far, far away...)

StewartR said:
I see a lame attempt at regulating the discussion above - do people have nothing better to do?
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Apparently not... perhaps they missed the on-going participation of a staff member, and the comment from one of the forum co-owners... Of course, if they actually simply followed the comments in the forum rules, life would be much simpler - if a tad more boring... I'll quote them in here, highlighted as appropriate, for the benefit of the terminally lazy and incapable of clicking a link...

Conduct and behaviour
  • Don't swear. Don't be offensive. Be polite. Don't bore everyone with drivel. Don't moan about moderation.
  • Post in English.
  • If you think someone needs to be reminded of the rules, report it to the mods and leave them to deal with it. If you retaliate then you'll be treated the same, regardless of who started it.
  • If a moderator posts with an instruction, don't ignore it.
  • Teensy bit rude? Shouldn't be viewed by kids or anyone at work, use the "NSFW" thread prefix.
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Steve Smith said:
Some cameras, such as my wide angle panoramic camera, are only good for one style whereas other cameras can do a bit of everything.
Steve.
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I'm not sure that I understand this point. If you mean that the panoramic format constitutes a definite "style" (such as Colin Prior's panoramas), then doesn't a 6x6 also constitute a definite "style" (such as Chalie Waite's landscapes)?

If you mean that the format limits the application, I've seen portraits taken using a X-Pan (in Black and White Photography, some time ago).

If your format is big enough, you can easily crop - a 10x8 gives a reasonable amount of flexibility.
 
Since the thread has revived (a little)...

Byker28i said:
The camera is a tool. Nothing more nothing less. You need the right tool for the purpose.
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Byker28i said:
Or one could say that in photography it's easy to succumb to the need for bigger and more kit. For me it's a tool to capture an image.
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Doesn't quote 1 suggest that to capture specific images you might need specific tools? In which case, surely that implies that succumbing (in quote 2) is actually needed to ensure that you don't have to photographically speaking drive in nails with a screwdriver?
 
StephenM said:
I'm not sure that I understand this point. If you mean that the panoramic format constitutes a definite "style" (such as Colin Prior's panoramas), then doesn't a 6x6 also constitute a definite "style" (such as Chalie Waite's landscapes)?
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In my case, if I go out with the panoramic camera, I am looking for subjects to suit it.


Steve.
 
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