DIY Query - putting up shelving

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Hi all.

Looking at putting up some shelving in the garage. about 800mm deep, total length of around 5m (this could be split into 4 x 1.2m)

The issue is that the wall does not look too strong (see the pics below). How best shall i fit the shelving to this wall?
I was thinking of using something like this so can move the shelving to suit. Will doing runs of 1.2m and brown rail plugs do the job? How many screws would you use for a 1.4m high twin spot upright, a screw around every 300mm?

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800mm is very deep shelving, even though you don't give the most important information (the expected shelf-loading) the mass and moment of the shelves themselves will be considerable. I would not personally cantilever a shelf of that depth off any wall, of suspect or solid construction. Free-standing shelves would be the way I'd go. And if there's no room for that I'd restrict the shelves to 300/450mm depending on the loading - deeper for lightweight storage only, narrower if I was thinking of stacking dense items (like paint tins, tools or ironmongery).
 
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What about fixing vertical 3x2 to the joists and to the floor and then fixing shelf supports to those. Leave the wall well alone if I were you.

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I'd have to agree with the above posters.

Upright at the back, and any reason not to use uprights at the front?
Or maybe uprights at each end and run a length of batten between them?

Don't even try to cantilever with that depth.
 
I'd get boltless racking. They have payloads of 250kg + so ideal for garages. They only take 15 mins to knock up. I have 650cm depth not sure if they go any wider.
 
Thanks all. I currently have freestanding shelving (b and Q kketer plastic shelving). The problem is that there is a lot of wasted space due to the fixed sizing. I have almost everything in the shelves organised into Ikea Samoa boxes, the largest of which is 780x560, so I was planning on having the shelving deep enough for these to go in lengthways.
There isn't much weight in the current shelves, but I would want to get something sturdy just in case. I liked the uprights as I could be flexible as to the shelf sizes. Could I use these attached to wooden uprights, with uprights every 1200?
 
Look at the questions and answers on Screwfix's page that you've linked to - extra info from the manufacturer's website, including the maximum shelf depth recommended.
 
800mm is way to far for ropey walls, racking for sure.
 
Have a look ar the bigdug page for the boltless racking
 
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Look at the questions and answers on Screwfix's page that you've linked to - extra info from the manufacturer's website, including the maximum shelf depth recommended.
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That link was to show the type of fixings i was looking at, i wasnt necessarily going to be getting that particulr bracket. I was sounding out if the walls would be sufficient to hold the shelving, which it appears they wont be.

I'm going to take a look at the boltless racking. Will likely b back with more questions! Thanks all.
 
The support for such shelving will either have to come from the floor, or from a sidewall (which it doesn't seem you have).
I built some 'photography' shelves in our hall/alcove which are about 800mm deep, but with it being an alcove, I used large shelving brackets for the back wall, but also installed wooden battens for the sides to take the support. Nothing too heavy on them, but they can take quite a bit of weight.

I'd personally look into proper racking and if need be you can use the wall to secure / attach it to.
 
Could use chrome or similar breakfast bar supports from the floor and between shelves, and if the wall is suspect, fix a sheet of ply to wall using adhesive and strong fixings so the loading is spread, then fix straps or brackets to the ply. I wouldn't trust any kind of brackets on a dodgy wall
 
Setting aside the choice of shelving and I would go for boltless & freestanding you have not said much about the wall and its age and whether the other side is the 'rest of the house'

If that wall is the one between the garage and the rest of the house, it was my understanding that it should have been constructed with fire resistance in mind. As such any drilling into it will compromise its ability to resist fire to the expected standard I.e. fixing on the wall might affect any future potential insurance claims???

If the above is the case, you may be happy to "take the risk" but what about when you sell it? If my understanding is correct it would or should be picked up by a surveyor but if missed what about future owners safety?
 
Freestanding racking, secured to the floor/wall would also be my suggestion. It doesn't have to be new, often it comes around second hand. I picked up a lot of freestanding racking and metal cabinets from a local company that was downsizing. Didn't cost me much. I have 3 full height double metal cabinets, 2 half height and a half height racking unit in my garage that cost me £100 as a donation. I sold the racking to a friend for his garage, preferring the cabinets as they had sliding doors and it looks neater.
 
check out gumtree
 
It is the 800mm deep that the OP might struggle to find............................two sets back to back perhaps???
 
I've had a rethink in the sizing, will settle for 600 deep. Just need to find the best width to take 390 / 780 wide boxes as efficiently as possible between the frame.

Good call on gumtree. There are some dirt cheap 900 wide, but that would be quite a lot of space wasted, 1200 or 1600 would be ideal.
 
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