Discussion / idle chat thread (2022) Week 52 Showcase

Cobra said:
Don't like the theme or the Tech?
Might as well please yourself, in that case
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Got mixed up between Tech and Theme. Don't know about the theme yet but the tech for me will almost certainly be B&W, that's what I meant...I think. :oops: :$
 
I did black and white last week. Might make it white and black next time :ROFLMAO: Or indeed try a monochrome. I need to explore monochrome I think.
 
We did B&W in 2020 and the converse question arose,
Is that monochrome or Black and white?.
Hence me adding a description in my post for the current tech,
In doing so hoping people will follow the guidelines.

But you know what they say, you can lead a tog to a subject, but you can't make them "click" :D
 
Cobra said:
So, week 18 eh? that's over 1/3rd of the way through...


Something for the early risers, and the late risers...
Sun rise or Sun set

Technique for the next 2 months is Monochrome.

Please not this is not black and white..
Monochrome means the presentation of a single color in different shades. This just means that a single color is depicted in different values and intensities. The color remains the same but the elements that differ are the brightness, lightness, darkness or dullness of the color.
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I just read this again do I see the reason for your annoyance, I see it specifically excludes B&W. See how years of interchanging monochrome and B&W blinds one to the truth that lies in the difference. I shall ensure there is no black and no white in my tech submission. :cool:
 
ShinySideUp said:
I just read this again do I see the reason for your annoyance,
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I'm not really annoyed, I just get frustrated sometimes, so many many people at the start of each year, put their name down,
with comments like, its a great excuse to get out with the camera, and challenge "myself" somewhere around 1/4 never start.
And then some people don't like the theme or the tech, and do their own thing, some weeks.

I'm not having a go at you Martin, but you can see how frustrating it can be, and I sometimes wonder why I bother at all.
 
If I’ve ever heard or read the word monochrome, I’ve always instantly thought, Black & White, so the description on the tech this time has really made me think …(this is a good thing :)) Idid a little research last night and it has given me some ideas. Hopefully I can get out to try them out.
 
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Nikon_Nick said:
If I’ve ever heard or read the word monochrome, I’ve always instantly thought, Black & White, so the description on the tech this time has really made me think …(this is a good thing :)) Idid a little research last night and it has given me some ideas. Hopefully I can get out to try them out.
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You can see where from where it comes. Type 'monochrome' into a search engine and look at the images page, my estimate is that over 90% of the displayed pictures are in actual Black and White. Until this came up. I'd never considered that monochrome was anything other than B&W but it is in the name; mono (single) and chrome (pertaining to colour). In fact taking it to extremes you might, at a stretch, say that a black and white image is not even monochrome since it includes no colours at all being both all the colours and none of the colours (or indeed light itself) at the same time. This has become much more interesting in light (no pun) of this Tech.
 
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@ShinySideUp Pretty much spot on Martin (y)

But I'm still betting that a lot of images this tech, will be B&W ;)
 
I confess I thought Black and White fitted within the bounds of monochrome, but not vice versa, and could easily have been tripped up by this tech. My camera club puts on an annual monochrome competition and the majority of entries are B&W... so you specifically do not want B&W - think I've got that now :D.

I will try and choose a colour. I'm just wondering how within the software you can ensure that it is truly monochrome. I need to explore.... curves? desaturating all other colours?
 
Bebop said:
so you specifically do not want B&W - think I've got that now :D.
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I don't care I've lost the will to live with this one :p

Bebop said:
I'm just wondering how within the software you can ensure that it is truly monochrome. I need to explore.... curves? desaturating all other colours?
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Grey scale seems to be the easiest option that people go for, google it, there are loads of examples (y)
Or as Alan mentioned sepia is a slight cheat, but it fits within the dictionary definition :)
 
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I'm not sure that monochrome excludes B&W, more that it isn't ONLY B&W, other "chromes" exist!

Just hoping that at some point this week, ideally when I'm somewhere that has decent rises/sets, the weather plays ball!!! Might shoot it in B&W if it does!
 
FWIW, Chris, your efforts are appreciated by some.

Fuctifino who though!!! :P:P:P
 
Nod said:
I'm not sure that monochrome excludes B&W, more that it isn't ONLY B&W, other "chromes" exist!
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B&W are shades, not colours. Even if they were, that is two colours, not one aka mono.

However, as most of you know, I don't hold the keys to the scroll cupboard.
If I did, I wouldn't give anyone a tick for a black and white image.

That falls to you all B&W'ers To convince @LC2 Tim.

@-Oy- I assume that you do know I can read deleted posts :p
 
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Cobra said:
So, week 18 eh? that's over 1/3rd of the way through...


Something for the early risers, and the late risers...
Sun rise or Sun set

Technique for the next 2 months is Monochrome.

Please not this is not black and white..
Monochrome means the presentation of a single color in different shades. This just means that a single color is depicted in different values and intensities. The color remains the same but the elements that differ are the brightness, lightness, darkness or dullness of the color.
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Well I do like the Tech as I know just what I will do for that one but have to wait for a Snappers choice and it will NOT be a B&W either.
 
Cobra said:
@-Oy- I assume that you do know I can read deleted posts :p
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Of course - I've had my own forum since 2005 :)

Just wasn't worth making a fuss over ;)
 
Quick question - hopefully not a doughnuttable one!

When fulfilling the technical part, must it be in the same shot as the week's theme or can we post an extra for the tech?
 
Pretty sure it's the same shot.
 
Nod said:
must it be in the same shot as the week's theme
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Guideline 5
5) Every 2 months a technique will be posted on the first Thursday of those 2 months
Use this in / on ( at least) one of your images for the coming 2 months.

Yes all you have to do is make one of the next 2 months themed images fall in line with the tech.
Although there is bound to be a snappers choice at some point ...
Week 25 is the next one
 
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Ta for the clarification. I thought it was probably so.
 
Cobra said:
The next tech will most likely be, please yourselves
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Please don't - I will be completely at sea then. Snapper's choice is bad enough :D Mind you the tech has only been introduced in recent years hasn't it?

I quite fancy doing a colour rather than grey - or a colour other than grey for any pedants out there.
 
Bebop said:
Mind you the tech has only been introduced in recent years hasn't it?
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I introduced it for 2019.
So this is the 3rd year.
 
So monochrome....is it the same as black and white? In the wider world of photography, should one take pictures in colour and then edit them into black and white or should you just select black and white / monochrome? I assume it's better to take the picture in colour and then turn it B&W as I imagine it's harder to turn a B&W photograph back into colour?
 
According to Wiki, Monochrome includes but isn't restricted to B&W.

In the wider world, these days, I take shots for B&W conversion in colour then play with assorted sliders in PP to get the result I'm after. After years of shooting only B&W in my youth, I can usually see what I want to achieve when I'm looking through the VF, although some people use a combination of JPEG and raw files so they can see what the B&W will look like through their EVF/rear screen but still have more control when they get to PP, although it's also possible to get it in camera using filtration. I would hope that at some point in your course, your tutor will help you explore the options.
 
It's confusing for us poor noobies sometimes.

I've being trying monochrome setting on my camera and silhouettes (never done one before) as part on my course. We didn't go further than exploring B&W photos (tutor said to take colour and edit to B&W). I asked here to see what the consensus on the forums was :-) as there are more people here to gather data / responses from.

I'm good with the tech for the month as I have the setting on my camera which helps.

One thing I am quickly learning about the world of photography is there are a lot of ways to do things and it's a lot more complex than you realise when you're just starting out like I am. Also, that everyone has an opinion and preference, so what you like / dislike may be different to other people :-)
 
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Shame we don't have a snappers choice imminently, I have seen a perfect subject for the tech but in a few weeks time it will not be as it is now, things grow and change and it just won't look the same, hey ho, there'll be another time.
 
Adamcski said:
It's confusing for us poor noobies sometimes.

I've being trying monochrome setting on my camera and silhouettes (never done one before) as part on my course. We didn't go further than exploring B&W photos (tutor said to take colour and edit to B&W). I asked here to see what the consensus on the forums was :) as there are more people here to gather data / responses from.

I'm good with the tech for the month as I have the setting on my camera which helps.

One thing I am quickly learning about the world of photography is there are a lot of ways to do things and it's a lot more complex than you realise when you're just starting out like I am. Also, that everyone has an opinion and preference, so what you like / dislike may be different to other people :)
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I love the 52 and still learning from it, what the 52 has helped me with is instead of just going out to take a shot for the theme I will now try and take the image at a different angle that might set it up to be better. I also like the comments as it is nice to see others thoughts on the image too.
 
Adamcski said:
It's confusing for us poor noobies sometimes.
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I've posted a dictionary definition twice.
I'm now leaving it up to Tim @LC2 if he want's to give the transgressors a tick for a B&W image or not.
 
That is a good read @Fuji Dave. I'm glad it went through some of the mechanics, although I no longer use Lightroom. However I think @Cobra is specifically not wanting B&W this time...
although he doesn't care any more...maybe....:sneaky: :exit:
 
Bebop said:
That is a good read @Fuji Dave. I'm glad it went through some of the mechanics, although I no longer use Lightroom. However I think @Cobra is specifically not wanting B&W this time...
although he doesn't care any more...maybe....:sneaky: :exit:
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It is indeed specifically excluded but he's left it to our esteemed 'spreadsheet overlord' as to whether or not it is acceptable. From previous conversations I am now a convert to the belief that monochrome is shades of one colour whereas B&W is not and therefore not monochrome. It's taken me a few days to get my head around the difference but I have it now and will in future be a monochrome evangelist, eschewing B&W as a monochrome subject! :)
 
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