Disabled blue badge question

[Marc]

I am aware of that, and from experience knowing the person is only acting from that personal experience will often lead to a skewing of rationale.

The best plans and solutions are usually made by the totally unbiased.

No bias Dave, just actual knowledge and experience. People who know what their needs are and what the practicalities are in given situations, no 'bias' whatsoever. You gave your opinion of how you think it should work, people then tried to explain why it wouldn't work.

The best plans and solutions may be made by the totally unbiased but not without taking into account the views and experiences of those with a vested interest, something you appear not to want to acknowledge.

 

[Cobra]

No the man wasn't playing to the media,the lady was just saying what had happen to her once

Then maybe she was playing to the camera?
we have no proof either way.
Had she said everyone accepts the "ticket" with grace and understanding,
and most of them give me a big hug too,
that wouldn't have got aired either.

But I guess we will never know the truth.

 

[Dave *]

No bias Dave, just actual knowledge and experience. People who know what their needs are and what the practicalities are in given situations, no 'bias' whatsoever. You gave your opinion of how you think it should work, people then tried to explain why it wouldn't work.

The best plans and solutions may be made by the totally unbiased but not without taking into account the views and experiences of those with a vested interest, something you appear not to want to acknowledge.

Except it does work, (in the instance I'm discussing).

The terminally lazy will fight over the row of parkings directly outside the main door, those who really need the disabled bays don't have to fight for their parking spaces and while they might be a few steps further from the main doors off to the side, they are sited in a safer manner not requiring the users to cross any traffic lanes to access the lobby. The disabled bays are also less busy and a straight walk without danger to the secondary doors and lift.

Without being insulting or patronising, it is an unfortunate side effect that those most affected can sometimes be the most vocal and biased when considering solutions good for all possible users.

Making the first row of parkings disabled (just to placate the militant disabled) does no real favours for the other 95% disabled users who would prefer the safest, most useful parking plan.

 

[2blue4u]

I've only skimmed pages 2 & 3 and I don't think it's been asked. Simon, forgetting for a moment the point that it is your Nan's badge and not yours, why are you carrying around a Camden issued badge when you live near Cambridge?

And if the badge is being used in the Camden area then beware, as you are no doubt aware, the term parking gestapo was first used by the residents of Camden. Carrying a youngster with a broken leg will attract attention - and Camden have vehicle-mounted cameras to catch every transgression. I've even been fined for a 40 second parking transgression when working for Camden County Court.

 

[cambsno]

I've only skimmed pages 2 & 3 and I don't think it's been asked. Simon, forgetting for a moment the point that it is your Nan's badge and not yours, why are you carrying around a Camden issued badge when you live near Cambridge?

And if the badge is being used in the Camden area then beware, as you are no doubt aware, the term parking gestapo was first used by the residents of Camden. Carrying a youngster with a broken leg will attract attention - and Camden have vehicle-mounted cameras to catch every transgression. I've even been fined for a 40 second parking transgression when working for Camden County Court.

She moved up here a year ago having lived there for the previous 88 years.

 

[Marc]

Except it does work, (in the instance I'm discussing).

The terminally lazy will fight over the row of parkings directly outside the main door, those who really need the disabled bays don't have to fight for their parking spaces and while they might be a few steps further from the main doors off to the side, they are sited in a safer manner not requiring the users to cross any traffic lanes to access the lobby. The disabled bays are also less busy and a straight walk without danger to the secondary doors and lift.

Without being insulting or patronising, it is an unfortunate side effect that those most affected can sometimes be the most vocal and biased when considering solutions good for all possible users.

Making the first row of parkings disabled (just to placate the militant disabled) does no real favours for the other 95% disabled users who would prefer the safest, most useful parking plan.

Just to placate the militant disabled? Sorry, but that's just ridiculous. The spaces are nearest the entrance because that's the most convenient and safest place for them to be. Moving them away so that non-disabled people won't want to use them is one of the daftest reasons I've heard.

 

[Sparkles33]

Yes, I suppose you are doing that.



Another judgement made without the facts, my example is an undercover carpark, completely tarmac, smooth and dry, and there are dedicated walk ways to the alternative entrance where they can use the lift if they wish.

Its a fact that sometimes placing the disabled bays directly outside the main entrance is counterproductive, whilst it offends some disabled people blue badge holders (many manage to walk or even jog from their cars) who feel that if the disabled bays aren't directly outside the door it's some sort of insult or affront to their disability.

There is sometimes logic to place them off to the side where they don't get used by lazy people, and consequently they aren't full of cars that have parked simply for convenience but didn't actually need the wide space or a direct unhindered path to the shop without having to cross the path of any moving vehicles.

Sometimes you should consider all the facts without allowing personal prejudice to colour your argument, see all the facts and realise alternative thinking can sometimes produce a better solution.

perhaps you should take your own advice hinny? Or better still, give it a try.

 

[Brendan Mulachy]

Simon, you could always take you Nan and her badge with you when you need to park with your daughter - that way it would be legit.

Although that probably doesn't help much...

thats what id do....gives the old girl a day out at the same time...double result

 

[simonblue]

Then maybe she was playing to the camera?
we have no proof either way.
Had she said everyone accepts the "ticket" with grace and understanding,
and most of them give me a big hug too,
that wouldn't have got aired either.

But I guess we will never know the truth.

I am inclined to believe her,at the local school when little one goes you ought to hear the abuse the poor lollipop lady gets,and when i have helped taking them out its can be a nightmare with some drivers when your trying to get a group of children across the roads .

But then again drivers are never at fault

 

[Cobra]

I am inclined to believe her,at the local school when little one goes you ought to hear the abuse the poor lollipop lady gets,and when i have helped taking them out its can be a nightmare with some drivers when your trying to get a group of children across the roads .

Absolutely I don't doubt that for a minute!
And the drivers are probably the ones that have just congested the road in the first place dropping their little
darlings off at said school
Nothing worse than a "mum on a mission"

But then again drivers are never at fault

Of course they aren't! Its the bloody pedestrians
(Where is that tongue in cheek smiley? )

 

[simonblue]

Absolutely I don't doubt that for a minute!
And the drivers are probably the ones that have just congested the road in the first place dropping their little
darlings off at said school
Nothing worse than a "mum on a mission"



Of course they aren't! Its the bloody pedestrians
(Where is that tongue in cheek smiley? )