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You'd be surprised how many people who use a stick do need those wide bays, many find it difficult to get in and out of cars without opening their doors fully.
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You'd be surprised how many people who use a stick do need those wide bays, many find it difficult to get in and out of cars without opening their doors fully.
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You`ll look funny eating corn on the cob with not farkin teeth.
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Ever tried getting out of a car with 2 crutches and help to stand when the door can't open far, or hobbling around with spazzy legs and arms with said sticks? Or self propelling a wheelchair (especially somewhere hazardous). Disabled parking bays aren't just for wheelchair users. Or getting out of a car with a 9 month pregnant belly with a similar situation, when her legs waddle rather than walk, with baby head-butting her bladder? Or strapping a child into a car seat? Or walking across a busy car park with 3 young children? Again, parent and child bays aren't clear cut. There are reasons why they're close to an entrance.
It's not just black and white...
I find it quite odd this thread,when someone starts a thread about being stopped by a policeman etc when taking photos,we are often accused of police bashing and we are doing nothing wrong,yet when it come to doing something that is wrong,misuse of a blue badge some seem to think its ok to bend the rules 
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No, it's not. Especially when those people you mention then have to somehow walk/propel around 100m from the car park doors to the main doors to Tesco, and then around the 300m x 200m superstore to actually shop....
That 10m makes all the difference
.I would suggest the person incapable of walking an extra 10m from car to the shopping centre doors might struggle with the rest of the required walking/propelling?
They could also use the lift to get to the retail level, which is not at the main doors, but closer to some of the disabled bays via a secondary door, still unfortunately doesn't help with getting around the shop though.
Sometimes the disabled bays being directly outside the main doors isn't the most sensible option, for many reasons.
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If that was aimed at me, I have never bashed a policeman in my life,I find it quite odd this thread,when someone starts a thread about being stopped by a policeman etc when taking photos,we are often accused of police bashing and we are doing nothing wrong,yet when it come to doing something that is wrong,misuse of a blue badge some seem to think its ok to bend the rules
either physically, verbally or textually over supposed heavy handedness.
Rules are there to be bent
Just don't get caught, or have a damned good alibi if you do
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If that was aimed at me, I have never bashed a policeman in my life,
either physically, verbally or textually over supposed heavy handedness.
Rules are there to be bent
Just don't get caught, or have a damned good alibi if you do
But if you over expose the slippery pink member out side again that police policeman did discuss bashing you with something so I heard
On the topic of use of blue badge, risk if you want but take it like a man if you get caught, I do however wish your little lass a quick recovery poor little one
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No, it's not. Especially when those people you mention then have to somehow walk/propel around 100m from the car park doors to the main doors to Tesco, and then around the 300m x 200m superstore to actually shop....
That 10m makes all the difference
I would suggest the person incapable of walking an extra 10m from car to the shopping centre doors might struggle with the rest of the required walking/propelling?
They could also use the lift to get to the retail level, which is not at the main doors, but closer to some of the disabled bays via a secondary door, still unfortunately doesn't help with getting around the shop though.
Sometimes the disabled bays being directly outside the main doors isn't the most sensible option, for many reasons.
Too many judgements being made... With regards to self propelling, - self propelling on tarmac, especially wet tarmac, with cars passing you at head height is different to a smooth, dry, tiled, even floor with pedestrians pushing trolleys.
Walking, again, a person may have to stop every few metres, - perfectly safe to do so when you're not surrounded by moving vehicles.
A person who is partially sighted, again, the safety issues of the car park, especially outdoors with varying light.
Lifts...that's something new in the equation...
Disability and ability isn't as clear cut as people seem to enjoy to judge. It's different for everyone and you certainly can't tell just by watching a person.
If a person states that they're tired, or thirsty, this doesn't tend to get questioned. If a person asks for help to do something, sometimes that's questioned solely because of their appearance. Do we have the right to judge someone solely because of our perceptions of their appearance? I'd like to think that few people do.
If that was aimed at me, I have never bashed a policeman in my life,
either physically, verbally or textually over supposed heavy handedness.
Rules are there to be bent
Just don't get caught, or have a damned good alibi if you do
Not just you,is their a different from bent or broken
But i have never been able to drive,i do think some driver think breaking driving laws or rules are somehow not the same as breaking other laws
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Well if you bend something it will go back into place, if you break it you have more than one pieceNot just you,is their a different from bent or broken
As to the "law" I would suggest that if you bend the law, you got away with it,
if you break it, you got caught doing it
I suppose that because most of us drive at some point during the day, that its largely integral part of life,But i have never been able to drive,i do think some driver think breaking driving laws or rules are somehow not the same as breaking other laws
like so many "calculations" we do in our daily lives, we calculate the risks,
and maybe stop on a double yellow line for a few mins, and risk a parking fine.
or do 75 MPH on a motorway, while overtaking the middle lane hog doing 65 mph.
While the inside line is totally empty.
Well if you bend something it will go back into place, if you break it you have more than one piece
As to the "law" I would suggest that if you bend the law, you got away with it,
if you break it, you got caught doing it
I suppose that because most of us drive at some point during the day, that its largely integral part of life,
like so many "calculations" we do in our daily lives, we calculate the risks,
and maybe stop on a double yellow line for a few mins, and risk a parking fine.
or do 75 MPH on a motorway, while overtaking the middle lane hog doing 65 mph.
While the inside line is totally empty.
As long as people don't come
if they do get caught 
I have also seen disable driver with blue badges act pretty badly,and think the badge mean they can do whatever they like
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If that was aimed at me, I have never bashed a policeman in my life,
either physically, verbally or textually over supposed heavy handedness.
Rules are there to be bent
Just don't get caught, or have a damned good alibi if you do
You've never bashed a policeman's truncheon?
Simon, you've been given the correct answers. The blue badge is for your nan's benefit, and you can't use it to get parking rights/privileges for yourself while your daughter is in plaster. It's up to you if you want to take a chance, but there could be serious consequences if you're caught.
I hope your little girl recovers quickly, for her sake, and to relieve you of this dilemma!
I hope your little girl recovers quickly, for her sake, and to relieve you of this dilemma!
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No, it's not. Especially when those people you mention then have to somehow walk/propel around 100m from the car park doors to the main doors to Tesco, and then around the 300m x 200m superstore to actually shop....
That 10m makes all the difference
I would suggest the person incapable of walking an extra 10m from car to the shopping centre doors might struggle with the rest of the required walking/propelling?
They could also use the lift to get to the retail level, which is not at the main doors, but closer to some of the disabled bays via a secondary door, still unfortunately doesn't help with getting around the shop though.
Sometimes the disabled bays being directly outside the main doors isn't the most sensible option, for many reasons.
Ok Dave, let's take the supermarket as an example. If you are a stick/crutch user, yes you have to also get around the supermarket as well as from the car park to the store entrance. That's where trollies come in. Someone using a stick/crutch can put it in the trolley and use that to help get them around the store. Also, as Natt as said, getting across a vusy car park when you're not particularly mobile can be a nightmare.
What is your issue with disabled bays being closest to the entrance anyway, is there any reason for non-disahled people to have to park there?
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Simon, you could always take you Nan and her badge with you when you need to park with your daughter - that way it would be legit.
Although that probably doesn't help much...
Although that probably doesn't help much...
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I can only assume the supermarket car parks in your neck of the woods must be poorly laid out. All the disabled and "child" spaces in supermarkets around here are adjacent to walkways so the only obstacle will be other pedestrians, not cars.
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Sorry, not with you. The supermarket car parks in my neck of the woods are laid out as you say. My post was referring to Dave's suggestion that they don't need to be near the entrance.
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You referred to Natt's comment about trying to get across a busy car park from disabled spaces. All the Tesco I've been to have a sheltered walkway adjacent to the disabled spaces, there's no markings saying that the nearest to the door are for those more disabled than others so you could be lucky and park closest to the door or unlucky and have to park at the opposite end of the walkway which could be up to 100yds in some of the larger stores.
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Natt's comment, as I read it., was also referring to a situation where the disabled bays were away from the store entrance, as Dave was suggesting. She wasn't suggesting that those difficulties exist where the disabled bays are currently located,
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Why is it that when someone is doing their job properly they are classed as being an arse, whether it's someone asking to see your blue badge or whatever or even a traffic warden giving you a ticket, I doubt most would have the balls to say it to the face of a policeman. If a member here on TP was to call any of the mods here an arse each time they reprimanded or quoted a rule to a member who has broken one they probably would end up on a holiday.
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Great!
So Simon then has to manage his 89 yr old nan who needs his help, because that is why she has the badge, AND his 3 yr old daughter who can't walk because she has broken her leg. :banghead:
Parking and leaving Nan in the car with her badge, is misuse.
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Yes, I suppose you are doing that.
Another judgement made without the facts, my example is an undercover carpark, completely tarmac, smooth and dry, and there are dedicated walk ways to the alternative entrance where they can use the lift if they wish.
Its a fact that sometimes placing the disabled bays directly outside the main entrance is counterproductive, whilst it offends some
There is sometimes logic to place them off to the side where they don't get used by lazy people, and consequently they aren't full of cars that have parked simply for convenience but didn't actually need the wide space or a direct unhindered path to the shop without having to cross the path of any moving vehicles.
Sometimes you should consider all the facts without allowing personal prejudice to colour your argument, see all the facts and realise alternative thinking can sometimes produce a better solution.
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Sometimes you should consider that the people you are talking to are speaking from a position of direct knowledge and experience.
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....perhaps it should be made compulsory that everyone should spend a day in a wheelchair to experience a tiny part of the problems that can be encountered?
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You'd be surprised how many times that actually happens
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....perhaps it should be made compulsory that everyone should spend a day in a wheelchair to experience a tiny part of the problems that can be encountered?
I remember the 1st time I used a wheelchair out in public, the words 'eye opener' don't even come close!
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Great!
So Simon then has to manage his 89 yr old nan who needs his help, because that is why she has the badge, AND his 3 yr old daughter who can't walk because she has broken her leg. :banghead:
Parking and leaving Nan in the car with her badge, is misuse.
Hence why I pointed out it probably doesn't help much. Maybe I should have used a smiley to indicate jest? Would that have helped?
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Is there any such thing as a "drama queen" thread award? sorry just wondering
...in what way?
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well this thread seems to have more than its fair share of them... It's a blue parking badge.... I mean.. seriously.. take a step back people
Agree with you i find its driver that are the arse,watched a tv program and one lady traffic warden said that one man told her "he would follow her home then rape and kill her" i find that kind of behavior totally unacceptable and it need to be cracked down upon.
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I guess he was playing to the camera, lets face it,Agree with you i find its driver that are the arse,watched a tv program and one lady traffic warden said that one man told her "he would follow her home then rape and kill her" i find that kind of behavior totally unacceptable and it need to be cracked down upon.
if he'd said sorry love, I was an arse, would it have been screened?
Media hype.
(Totally unacceptable behavior though, I agree, from him and the media)
well this thread seems to have more than its fair share of them... It's a blue parking badge.... I mean.. seriously.. take a step back people
No its driver who need to sometimes take a step back,sometimes they are such lazy git they wont walk more than a few yards
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I am aware of that, and from experience knowing the person is only acting from that personal experience will often lead to a skewing of rationale.
The best plans and solutions are usually made by the totally unbiased.
No the man wasn't playing to the media,the lady was just saying what had happen to her once
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well this thread seems to have more than its fair share of them... It's a blue parking badge.... I mean.. seriously.. take a step back people
Perhaps you would like to tell us all what you know about the aims of the blue badge system then?
....because you come across as someone with little or no knowlege about WHY they are issued.
I think you have done the proper thing and asked,and not just taken it for granted that you could use it
And hope little one get well soon,it can be an difficult time with children and a broken leg,been their.