Digital Medium Format Thread

Mr Perceptive said:
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Tried an EF40mm, AF seems just as fast as GF45mm
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Do you have any vignetting or noticeable fall off in edge sharpness with adapted EF lenses?

For those with more modest budgets it could be a good way of getting into the medium format world without breaking the bank.
 
SFTPhotography said:
Do you have any vignetting or noticeable fall off in edge sharpness with adapted EF lenses?

For those with more modest budgets it could be a good way of getting into the medium format world without breaking the bank.
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Can’t speak for David’s experience. The Canon FD50 that I used had quite a strong vignette. Only some of it could be eradicated in post. The Samyang 85mm f1.4 suffered only slightly. I didn’t bother trying to correct it.
These are when shooting wide open. I never closed them down.
 
SFTPhotography said:
Do you have any vignetting or noticeable fall off in edge sharpness with adapted EF lenses?

For those with more modest budgets it could be a good way of getting into the medium format world without breaking the bank.
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Some lenses do, some don't - plety of table son the web from various users as to amount of vignetting - None on the Ef40mm F2.8 wide open - not as sharp as GF glass obviously. This adapter 'only' supports a number of lenses, though others 'may' work.

Tested Compatible Lens:
CANON EF 35/1.4 I/II
CANON EF 28/1.8
CANON EF 40/2.8
CANON EF 50/1.2L
CANON EF 85 F/1.2L II
CANON EF 85 F/1.8
CANON EF 85 F/1.4
CANON EF 100mm f/2.8L IS USM Macro lens
CANON EF 135mm f/2L USM
CANON EF 200mm f/2L IS USM
CANON EF 400mm f/4 DO IS II USM
CANON EF 500mm f/4L IS II USM
CANON TS-E 17 F/4L
CANON TS-E 24 F/3.5L II
CANON TS-E 90 F/2.8
CANON TS-E 40 F/2.8
CANON EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM(have dark corner, can be removed after tele-lens)
CANON EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM (have dark corner, can be removed after tele-lens)
Sigma lens:
SIGMA 35 f/1.4 ART
SIGMA 50 f/1.4 ART EX/GD
SIGMA 85 f/1.4 ART
SIGMA 135 f/1.8 ART
SIGMA 150-600/5-6.3
Zeiss lens:
OTUS 55/F1.4
OTUS 85/F1.4
 
Mr Perceptive said:
Some lenses do, some don't - plety of table son the web from various users as to amount of vignetting - None on the Ef40mm F2.8 wide open - not as sharp as GF glass obviously. This adapter 'only' supports a number of lenses, though others 'may' work.

Tested Compatible Lens:
CANON EF 35/1.4 I/II
CANON EF 28/1.8
CANON EF 40/2.8
CANON EF 50/1.2L
CANON EF 85 F/1.2L II
CANON EF 85 F/1.8
CANON EF 85 F/1.4
CANON EF 100mm f/2.8L IS USM Macro lens
CANON EF 135mm f/2L USM
CANON EF 200mm f/2L IS USM
CANON EF 400mm f/4 DO IS II USM
CANON EF 500mm f/4L IS II USM
CANON TS-E 17 F/4L
CANON TS-E 24 F/3.5L II
CANON TS-E 90 F/2.8
CANON TS-E 40 F/2.8
CANON EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM(have dark corner, can be removed after tele-lens)
CANON EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM (have dark corner, can be removed after tele-lens)
Sigma lens:
SIGMA 35 f/1.4 ART
SIGMA 50 f/1.4 ART EX/GD
SIGMA 85 f/1.4 ART
SIGMA 135 f/1.8 ART
SIGMA 150-600/5-6.3
Zeiss lens:
OTUS 55/F1.4
OTUS 85/F1.4
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In theory they should be sharp, especially on the 50mp body as the pixel pitch is very similar to that of the 5dmk4.

I could understand the 100mp might test some of these a bit given the very very small pixel pitch.

Its the image circle size that'll cost but honestly I crop 1:1 so much I doubt that's a worry as I'd be cutting off the shaded sections.

It is hip to be square.
 
trevorbray said:
Can’t speak for David’s experience. The Canon FD50 that I used had quite a strong vignette. Only some of it could be eradicated in post. The Samyang 85mm f1.4 suffered only slightly. I didn’t bother trying to correct it.
These are when shooting wide open. I never closed them down.
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See, I would close them down, right down to F11 to F13. There's some amazing EF lenses that would work nicely on this rig and plug some extreme focal length holes.
 
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Mr Perceptive said:
I suspect L glass will give good results on the 50S, regular EF glass less so, with a few exceptions. Thinking of investing in a s/h EF100mm Macro lens
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So do I, I'm thinking that 70-200 2.8 L II or III and some of the primes and most of the big whites plus the 24mm tilt shift. Reckon the Sigma ARTS and OTUS things will probably hold on the 100s - they do on the 5ds so no reason why some of the very best won't live well on the 100s
 
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SFTPhotography said:
So do I, I'm thinking that 70-200 2.8 L II or III and some of the primes and most of the big whites plus the 24mm tilt shift. Reckon the Sigma ARTS and OTUS things will probably hold on the 100s - they do on the 5ds so no reason why some of the very best won't live well on the 100s
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Quite a lot of users have reported sharper images with GF23mm than Canon EF Tilt Shift 24mm
 
Are there any sites which do direct comparison sample shots between MF and FF? As in the same photo taken with each camera so as to get a real good feel for the difference?
 
gman said:
Are there any sites which do direct comparison sample shots between MF and FF? As in the same photo taken with each camera so as to get a real good feel for the difference?
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Hi, here :

FF and MF DOF compared visually - the last word

A couple of days ago I posted visual examples of what various circle of confusion diameters (hereafter called CoCs) looked like at somewhat greater than 100% magnification with the 80 mm f/1.7 Fuji GF lens on the GFX 100S. That was in response to repeated discussion on some fora saying that the...
blog.kasson.com blog.kasson.com

(Every now and then I think about "Super-FF" cameras such as the Fujis. But when I think back how often I used my FUJI GS 645 or my ROLLEI 2,8 GX I try to convince me that
after a little playing with the new toys I will go back to my 24x36mm cameras (Leica, Nikon, Sony. )
 
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dancook said:
I’m not 100% but is that rear screen only 920k resolution ? It’s what put me off that and the desire to do non square format portraiture.

https://ppl.de/p/hasselblad-907x-sp...QUZWSzVhz-8sinPOhrR_x7rvRcmMCvuHeFoRWHErtTAoI
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just that for me too!
square 1:1 does not "do it" for me, i find my brainbox has been
indoctrinated into 4:3 or 16:9.
however, you hasselblad types have my respect as it was a
photograph taken by a hassy that electrified my attention on
photography rather than some other hobby such as building castles from matchsticks :-)
 
justpix said:
Hi, here :

FF and MF DOF compared visually - the last word

A couple of days ago I posted visual examples of what various circle of confusion diameters (hereafter called CoCs) looked like at somewhat greater than 100% magnification with the 80 mm f/1.7 Fuji GF lens on the GFX 100S. That was in response to repeated discussion on some fora saying that the...
blog.kasson.com blog.kasson.com

(Every now and then I think about "Super-FF" cameras such as the Fujis. But when I think back how often I used my FUJI GS 645 or my ROLLEI 2,8 GX I try to convince me that
after a little playing with the new toys I will go back to my 24x36mm cameras (Leica, Nikon, Sony. )
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Thanks. I hoping for more complete photos though rather than a technical type analysis?
 
gman said:
Thanks. I hoping for more complete photos though rather than a technical type analysis?
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Hi, the conclusion of the dpreview review has some info, and a studio scene for IQ comparisons:

www.dpreview.com

Fujifilm GFX 50S II review

The GFX 50S II takes a familiar sensor and adds the image stabilization and body design of the GFX 100S. Does this, and a lowest-ever price deliver a winning combination?
www.dpreview.com www.dpreview.com

What I would like, however, are real life comparisons from owners of both systems, too ... ---

(I could do this by buying a FUJI, but do not want to perform this costly test ... ;) )
 
TimHughes said:
Greetings from across the border in Switzerland. I use both FF and MF, different tools for different results.
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Grüezi! - My readings and viewings convinced me that "MF" delivers superior IQ. -- What keeps me from going this way, too ?

It is my personal taste, the preference of compactness, acquired in the 1970s with the ROLLEI 35, reinforced later by the Leica Ms,
and later confirmed by my half-hearted MF dabblings with the ROLLEI 6x6 2.8 GX and the FUJI 645.

I am simply happy with my present toys, and wish you all the same! This should be easy with superior tools ... --- :)
 
justpix said:
Grüezi! - My readings and viewings convinced me that "MF" delivers superior IQ. -- What keeps me from going this way, too ?

It is my personal taste, the preference of compactness, acquired in the 1970s with the ROLLEI 35, reinforced later by the Leica Ms,
and later confirmed by my half-hearted MF dabblings with the ROLLEI 6x6 2.8 GX and the FUJI 645.

I am simply happy with my present toys, and wish you all the same! This should be easy with superior tools ... --- :)
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Guten Tag! No need to change then, keep enjoying taking pics :)
 
gman said:
Are there any sites which do direct comparison sample shots between MF and FF? As in the same photo taken with each camera so as to get a real good feel for the difference?
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I've only read the title but it may be of some use.

www.dpreview.com

Choosing a camera Part 2: is a bigger sensor better?

In part two of our beginners' guides to the fundamentals of cameras, we're going to look at the benefits that a larger sensor can bring. Part three will look at the trade-offs that this brings.
www.dpreview.com www.dpreview.com
 
Peter123 said:
I've only read the title but it may be of some use.

www.dpreview.com

Choosing a camera Part 2: is a bigger sensor better?

In part two of our beginners' guides to the fundamentals of cameras, we're going to look at the benefits that a larger sensor can bring. Part three will look at the trade-offs that this brings.
www.dpreview.com www.dpreview.com
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@gman In typical "sunny 16" cases there is no visible difference in my opinion. The differences show up in more extreme shooting conditions. Even then it's not straightforward. I have R5 and GFX 100. R5 is much more versatile especially with the eye-tracking and high frame rate so much better for sports and events. GFX 100 has the edge for portraits and landscapes and printing really big.
 
Thanks, that's interesting to see. MF definitely has richer colours and the texture in the wood is better, but from afar there's nothing overwhelming - although the A7Riv is a good camera.

Zooming in presents quite a difference though, I split my screen 50/50 to do a zoomed in comparison and there's more detail, less noise and looks like more dynamic range. In particular when you look at the railing and the first flower.

But the A7Riv can obviously produce a good quality image whilst also having a decent AF system. The cogs are whirring again.
 
GFX50R down by £1,000 to £2,199 - Black Friday Deal (Wex at the moment) and some savings on lenses as well

Fujifilm Black Friday Deals | Wex Photo Video

Black Friday 2024 Fujifilm Deals now live! Prices won't go lower - while stocks last!
www.wexphotovideo.com

In the past I've had to place seperate orders to get multiple lens discounts (just hopefully useful information)
 
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