Difference between YN-460 & YN460-II?

[BalSanghera]

I was looking to get 2 flash guns to take on outdoor shoots etc but not quite sure is it worth paying almost £17 extra for the YN460-II does anyone know the difference? Bearing in mind I still need to find suitable wireless triggers dont know if im better of sticking with the standard 460... Any advice?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Electronic-...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1305279258&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Electronic-...2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1305279258&sr=1-2

Also can anyone recommend which wireless trigger to get please, possibly the PT-04?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Channel-Wir...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1305279761&sr=1-1

or these slightly cheaper ones with 4 receivers?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0034Z4PYK/ref=pd_luc_sbs_02_01

 

[BalSanghera]

Quick bump on this anyone have any advice, would love to place order today

 

[Mark.A]

The YN460-II is more powerful and you can set the power to 1/7th of a stop, with the YN460 you can only set full stops. The buttons on the original YN460 were particularly dodgy too. I'd get the YN460-II and for wireless I'd get the RF-602 kit.

 

[BalSanghera]

Thanks will probably order some stuff over the weekend

 

[Flash In The Pan]

The buttons on the original YN460 were particularly dodgy too.

The problem with the buttons affects the 460-II as well, fortunately it's a 10 second job to fix (if anyone needs to know how, pm me). The original 460 also had the slave built into the head which meant you could only trigger it if the head of the slave was pointing pretty much at the master

Fortunately that was remedied for the MK II version, where it was moved to the front of the main body

 

[BalSanghera]

What about a light meter, can anyone suggest a decent one?

 

[Mark.A]

The problem with the buttons affects the 460-II as well, fortunately it's a 10 second job to fix (if anyone needs to know how, pm me). The original 460 also had the slave built into the head which meant you could only trigger it if the head of the slave was pointing pretty much at the master

Fortunately that was remedied for the MK II version, where it was moved to the front of the main body

Yeah, I fixed the buttons on my YN460's but I've had 5 YN460-II's so far and they've all worked great straight out of the box. Maybe I was just lucky.

What about a light meter, can anyone suggest a decent one?

Depends what you mean by decent. Best value that gets the job done is the Sekonic L308S.

 

[dubcat]

I bought the sekonic l358 rather than the 308 as it allows you to very easily balance flash with ambient light, most people seem to go for the 308 though. Just wondering why the rf 602 was recommended over the newer rf 603? Is there a benefit to the 602?

 

[Mark.A]

The RF602's are just what I have. Looks like the RF603's will be just as good. The new Cactus V5's are reportedly very good too.

 

[dubcat]

The RF602's are just what I have. Looks like the RF603's will be just as good. The new Cactus V5's are reportedly very good too.

Ahh thanks very much.

 

[Kamilbas]

Also look on ebay, as the Youngno flashes and triggers are cheaper there.

 

[mcc49]

What about a light meter, can anyone suggest a decent one?

My 2nd hand Sekonic 358 has been very good to me and it only cost a bit over £100, a bargain in my books.

 

[Mark.A]

Incidentally, with regard to a light meter, if you plan on mixing ambient with flash then get the Sekonic 358 over the L308s. The L308s doesn't give a mixed ambient/flash percentage and it only allows calculating exposure by entering the shutter speed not the aperture. The 358 shows the percentage of ambient/flash and you can enter the shutter speed or aperture to calculate the other one.

I knew I'd seen this somewhere and I found it again, here's a list detailing the differences between the Sekonic 358 and the L308s:

Measuring System
358 - Incident: Dual retractable lumisphere, Reflected: with included reflected light attachment; Silicon photo diodes
308 - Incident or reflected for flash and ambient light; Silicon photo diode

Measuring Modes
358- Ambient and flash (cord, cordless, multi flash) - incident and reflected (54 degrees)
308-Ambient and flash (cord, cordless) - incident and reflected (40 degrees)

Receptor Head
358- Rotating 270 degree with built-in retractable lumisphere.
308- Non-rotating, non-interchangeable

Aperture/Shutter Priority
358- Aperture and shutter priority
308- Shutter speed priority

Display Readout
358- Digital LCD plus LCD analog, (auto-backlit LCD at EV 3 and under for 20 sec.)
308- Improved LCD - Digital LCD; Enhanced icons and symbols for better readability; 1/10th of a stop increment displayed; ASA and battery indications are always on.

ISO Range
358- Dual ISO settings: 3 to 8000 (1/3rd steps)
308- ISO 3 ~ 8000 in 1/3 increments

f/Stop Display Range
358- f/1.0 to 90 9/10 (full, 1/2 or 1/3rd steps)
308- f/0.5 ~ f/90 9/10; Full, 1/2 and 1/3 selectable f/stop increments

Shutter Speed - Ambient
358- 1/8000 sec. to 30 minutes
308- 1/8000 sec to 60 sec

Shutter Speed - Flash
358- 1/1000 sec to 30 minutes
308- 1/500 sec to 1 sec

EV Range (ISO-100)
358- EV -2 to 22.9
308- EV -5 to 26.2

Cine Speeds
358- 2 - 360fps
308- 8 ~ 128fps

Exposure Memory
358- Capable of nine exposure measurement readings
308- No

Shadow/Highlight Calculation
358- Yes
308- No

Brightness Difference
358- Displays the difference in 1/10 stop increments
308- No

Flash to Ambient Ratio
358- Yes
308- No

Multiple Flash
358- Yes, unlimited
308- No

Exposure Calibration
358- +/- 1.0 EV
308- No

Power Source
358- 1 CR123A lithium battery
308- 1 "AA" battery

Specialties 358 only
All weather design; Radio triggering with optional RT-32 Radio Transmitter Module (max. distance is 100ft); Compatible with PocketWizard Digital Radio Receivers; 16 standard PocketWizard Channels (#1-16) and 16 "Selective Quad Triggering" multi-zone channels (#17-32) are accessed through the meter's integral software and displayed on its LCS panel. In Selective Quad, up to 4 zones of lighting can be individually triggered and measured wirelessly.